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Re: Anime? Better than life?
« Reply #45 on: March 04, 2005, 11:17:54 AM »
I dont know ..... when you go to farms those chickens sit there and look......damn their little beady eyes. However i think we can forgive the chickens for this last stunt
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Re: Anime? Better than life?
« Reply #46 on: March 04, 2005, 01:09:41 PM »
Animation, by and large, started out targeted at every one. I mean you look at the old Disney and Looney Tunes animations and you'll find references to political figures, **28**, or adult jokes that little children wouldn't get. Somewhere along the line, animation got simpler and more childlike, and now we have this attitude that "Cartoons are for children." There are many great animators in America, but sadly they do not work for major companies so they are not well known. (Bill Plympton comes to mind) The Japanese school does indeed have great backgrounds, even in television shows, though the sad thing is when you look at the older American titles by Warner Brothers they have just as excellent backgrounds as well. It's a pity to think somewhere along the line that we lost it.

In terms of actual animation itself, Japanese seems to be more limited than American. The reason I can think of is perhaps Japan did not evolve with the "12 Principles of Animation" that American animation developed with, namely the principles of squatch and stretch, anticipation, etc.  One thing I forgive Japanese animation for is that many of their titles are based around a story, so the animation may not even be important - in fact, sometimes I think American animation could learn from the fact that your characters can sit still and be effective and not "milking the giant cow."   However, people often mistake fluid animation for "good" animation. The thing is the animation principles are important because they visually help the action move. Maybe people don't really form into s-curves in real life, but in a quick motion you'd be amazed how natural it looks animated. Otherwise, some movements look terribly stiff.

There is an important thing Japanese animation does that I wish more American animation would do, however - and that is visuals. If Akira Kurosawa ever animated, I think he could be just as effective as he was in live-action. There are Japanese animated films that have made me hold my breath with a single frame. My favorite animated film is "The Professional: Golgo 13" because of this - every short looks planned out and detailed beforehand. I believe this to be one of the prime reasons animation is such a great art form, because it is literally art in motion. All in all, Peter Cheung was head-on when he said that both American and Japanese animation could learn from each other.

...Ahem, sorry, animation student here, I like this sort of thing.  

To stay on topic...anybody ever heard of those people who like animated porn better than real life porn?  

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Re: Anime? Better than life?
« Reply #47 on: March 04, 2005, 01:40:16 PM »
Hey that was on topic in a kinda roundabout way
I agree with you about how our perception as a society has changed in regards to animation. How people percieve our modern culture now is sometimes misleading - Disney films have dark moments and themes that in another context might be put in a more highly rated framework. It is annoying to see animation bad mouthed as just belonging to a special "kids" realm.
What about political cartoons in newspapers? Graphic design employs animators to get a certain look, yet the final output is not criticised for being "childish".
Personally i cannot understand the attitude that it has to be a "real" media to succeed...feels like people dont understand it and therefore are negative towards its creative benefits.
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Re: Anime? Better than life?
« Reply #48 on: March 04, 2005, 04:22:48 PM »
A most wonderous picture. I have oft thought of a similar situation; where a buxom lass is exposed by means beyond her control.

Thor may have to consider raising chickens.

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Re: Anime? Better than life?
« Reply #49 on: March 04, 2005, 05:24:07 PM »
Indeed chickens are a wise idea, beneficial for all cloth removal for wenches.
Knowledgable indeed are these fowls in the art of declothing. Hail Thor!
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Re: Anime? Better than life?
« Reply #50 on: March 04, 2005, 08:47:34 PM »
You know I was just thinking today...there's really nothing wrong with admiring anime/hentai women. We've been doing it for centuries.

Think about it. Painters have done work with subtle sexual context, and poorer painters have done work for men's baths and pubs. Marcel Duchamp's "Nude Descending a Staircase" wasn't just making fun of contemporary art styles, it was making fun of the thousands of "Nude Descending a Staircase" in every men's club across the globe. Is admiring an animated work of art any different from admiring a still one?  

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Re: Anime? Better than life?
« Reply #51 on: March 05, 2005, 01:18:00 AM »
Sounds like a good time to upload an old favorite artist of mine from his Playboy years.. Vargas (Sorry in advance for the small size)

Thank you for your patience as I indulge my need to share.

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Re: Anime? Better than life?
« Reply #52 on: March 05, 2005, 10:02:08 AM »
Hell even in the cave paintings of stone age man there were pictures of women. The drawings of men always involved some kind of act e.g. hunting but the women drawn were nearly all just posed. Says something about the enduring nature of the human male towards animation!!

Anyways here is a neat little picture!!
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Re: Anime? Better than life?
« Reply #53 on: March 05, 2005, 10:07:28 AM »
Anime, better thanreal women?
NEVER!
In my humble opinion there is nothing more sexy than *real* women like Penelope Black Diamond (see attachment as proof).
There is an erotic goddess, and her name is Penelope Black Diamond!
very worthy: the official Penelope forum
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Re: Anime? Better than life?
« Reply #54 on: March 05, 2005, 10:11:14 AM »
Man i knew i should have written that question differently. What i meant was better than "pictures" of real women>_< not the real, genuine article!
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Re: Anime? Better than life?
« Reply #55 on: March 05, 2005, 10:15:55 AM »
It's too late now, ..but for future reference, you can edit your title for up to 24 hrs after you start a thread.  
Thank you for your patience as I indulge my need to share.

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Re: Anime? Better than life?
« Reply #56 on: March 05, 2005, 10:31:15 AM »
Damn my noobness!!!300 something posts and i didnt know that......ah,....
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Re: Anime? Better than life?
« Reply #57 on: March 05, 2005, 02:12:38 PM »
 WHat can i say? I like it a lot!
Nothing better than nekkid DOA gals "accidentally" falling onto each other....Ok ok. I know its hackneyed but i like it ok!!!  
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Re: Anime? Better than life?
« Reply #58 on: March 05, 2005, 07:37:59 PM »
Well there is that scene in the opening animation of the DoA Beach Volleyball game where one girl nips at the other's finger. My friends and I just started at the screen with dropped jaws, like, "What the heck was THAT?!"

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Re: Anime? Better than life?
« Reply #59 on: March 05, 2005, 08:01:48 PM »
thanks for the anime pics....good stuff!! cheers PE