Re: The New Doctor Who
« Reply #270 on: December 29, 2012, 01:41:40 AM »
Watched the Christmas special, and found that I enjoyed it very much.  Not as ridiculously jam-packed with ideas for the sake of plot twists (as has been the case with all too many of Moffat's episodes the last couple of years), and ditched the overly-schmaltzy tone of the last two specials for a more bittersweet-yet-hopeful one.  We've got a brand-new mystery leading into the coming season (and no indication of the status of any of the previous ones, many of which are still dangling), but it's one I expect will be resolved and am looking forward to seeing that.  In addition to being pleased with Moffat's writing in this episode, I'm also happy to see the cosmetic changes...the new console room looks far better than that toy-explosion-embedded-in-brass-and-glass monstrosity from the last two seasons, and the new intro sequence is all kinds of spiffy.  Can't wait for the show to return!
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Re: The New Doctor Who
« Reply #271 on: December 30, 2012, 06:07:00 PM »
Proper TARDIS interior :D http://youtu.be/OrFpjh4KF4U
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Re: The New Doctor Who
« Reply #272 on: December 30, 2012, 07:48:46 PM »
Pretty good Christmas special this year, the mystery of who Clara Oswin Oswald REALLY is should keep us guessing for a while. Liked the return of the Great Intelligence, although surely the Doctor should remember more about it since he's met it twice before. Mind you if Simeon was the origin of the Great Intelligence, that would be dissapointing, kind of how I felt when we found out what the smoke monster in Lost was. Looking forward to the return of Doctor Who soon.

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Re: The New Doctor Who
« Reply #273 on: December 30, 2012, 09:27:27 PM »
Pretty good Christmas special this year, the mystery of who Clara Oswin Oswald REALLY is should keep us guessing for a while. Liked the return of the Great Intelligence, although surely the Doctor should remember more about it since he's met it twice before. Mind you if Simeon was the origin of the Great Intelligence, that would be dissapointing, kind of how I felt when we found out what the smoke monster in Lost was. Looking forward to the return of Doctor Who soon.

They've hidden clues in the name of the character before in the form of an anagram-Mister Saxton comes to mind.

http://www.wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=Clara+Oswin+Oswald&t=1000&a=n

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Re: The New Doctor Who
« Reply #274 on: January 01, 2013, 08:44:25 PM »
They lost me with the sentient snow.  ???
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Re: The New Doctor Who
« Reply #275 on: January 02, 2013, 11:23:58 AM »
They lost me with the sentient snow.  ???
That was a reappearance of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Intelligence :)
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Re: The New Doctor Who
« Reply #276 on: January 03, 2013, 11:33:08 PM »
They lost me with the sentient snow.  ???

The snow wasn't sentient, it was being controlled puppet-like by a disembodied alien intelligence, apparently the classic-era's villain known as the Great Intelligence (though not a very creative one).  Same sort of thing as how the Nestene Consciousness (the big oozy plastic blob creature) could control anything made of plastic (notably store mannequins; also known as Autons when being controlled that way), in the very first episode with the Ninth Doctor (as well as previous adventures with the Third Doctor).  Presumably they're both cut from the same cloth as your Lovecraftian unknowable-intelligences-from-beyond-that-drive-you-mad-and-wish-to-consume/control-the-world.  The Great Intelligence is just a little bit more reliant on a human "conduit" to carry out its instructions until a suitable host can be found for it to properly manifest and get about the business of world-conquering.
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Re: The New Doctor Who
« Reply #277 on: January 04, 2013, 11:42:37 AM »
The snow wasn't sentient, it was being controlled puppet-like by a disembodied alien intelligence...

Yeah, this is Doctor Who.

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Re: The New Doctor Who
« Reply #278 on: January 05, 2013, 04:10:00 AM »
And unfortunately, that's why I have almost no confidence in the notion that everything is part of some grand scheme of Moffat's.  I expect he'll throw something together that connects to various points and elements that we've seen (like the bit with Van Gogh at the end of season 5), and while it'll superficially seem to tie everything together, I seriously doubt that it'll be the result of some master plan he's working from...it'd more likely be just another setup for yet another in a sequence of plot twists which may or may not make any sense or have any overall relevance to anything.

Rewatching Moffat eps as I am introducing them to people ... just saw The Hungry Earth (the first of the two parter with the Silarians) .. at the very beginning Rory & Amy are waving at Rory & Amy ... except, now that we know how their story ends, we know they weren't there the second time to wave.

There are ways of quibbling it to work out ... but it feels off to me ...

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Re: The New Doctor Who
« Reply #279 on: January 05, 2013, 04:11:32 AM »

Also loved the return of Madame Vastra and the lovely Jenny Flint also Strax was hilarious. :D And even better going by the trailer for next season it looks like they'll be back.

I would like to see Lady Vastra, Jenny, and Strax become regular companions for a few episodes ...

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Re: The New Doctor Who
« Reply #280 on: January 05, 2013, 04:16:12 AM »
The snow wasn't sentient, it was being controlled puppet-like by a disembodied alien intelligence, apparently the classic-era's villain known as the Great Intelligence (though not a very creative one).  Same sort of thing as how the Nestene Consciousness (the big oozy plastic blob creature) could control anything made of plastic (notably store mannequins; also known as Autons when being controlled that way), in the very first episode with the Ninth Doctor (as well as previous adventures with the Third Doctor).  Presumably they're both cut from the same cloth as your Lovecraftian unknowable-intelligences-from-beyond-that-drive-you-mad-and-wish-to-consume/control-the-world.  The Great Intelligence is just a little bit more reliant on a human "conduit" to carry out its instructions until a suitable host can be found for it to properly manifest and get about the business of world-conquering.

I'm surprised they didn't bring back the psychic dust from Amy's Choice ... it would have fit the bill for the snow perfectly ... and allowed the Dream Lord to return as a villain

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Re: The New Doctor Who
« Reply #281 on: January 06, 2013, 06:20:40 AM »
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Re: The New Doctor Who
« Reply #282 on: January 08, 2013, 03:09:22 PM »
^That's great.  I'll have to show it to my daughter.

Just realized that this thread existed since I don't often climb down here in the "Off-Topic"s Dept... 

Been reading about all the love for the Tardis' new interior.  I, myself, find it "okay".  I rather enjoyed all the clutter of the earlier incarnation.  Since the controls of the Tardis are basically far too advanced to be properly displayed by us mere 20th & 21st century types, I thought the idea of representing advanced systems with whimsical ideas very appropriate.  I find a certain "fun" factor sucked out of it now, actually.

'Though far from an intricate expert on All Things Who, I was under the impression that the Tardis interior changed when The Doctor changed.  Why is it suddenly different?
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Re: The New Doctor Who
« Reply #283 on: January 08, 2013, 03:21:36 PM »
Other than the odd tweak here and there the TARDIS console room stayed pretty much the same from '63 to '89 (other than the brief use of the 'Secondary console room' (The wooden looking one) ). It's only in the '96 tv movie that it changed significantly and then when it recommenced in '05 that it went all bizarre looking.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/galleries/p0129lz5 :)
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Re: The New Doctor Who
« Reply #284 on: January 08, 2013, 03:31:31 PM »
Okay.  Still liked the last iteration, though.   :P
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