[Bombayduk]

About that permanent filler. I straight up asked her about that in a 1 on 1 cam session some years ago and she said this wasn't true and that she never said anything about that. I too seem to remember her talking about this in the past but when I went to look in the early pages of this thread I can't find anything about it. Is it possible that the 'community' innocently made it up and started believing it?

Perhaps she just didn't want to talk about it - and that is a choice she has the right to make. But, as recently as 2022, her website had a FAQ in form of an interview, where the permanent replacement fluid is mentioned more than once.

Ah, thanks for that; the idea of a replacement fluid is not something anyone would seriously imagine without reading it somewhere.  I knew it had to be posted somewhere.  If she now denies the intent, I would suggest she has changed her mind; ever since I first read about it, I have wondered how this could be safely accomplished.  It may sound like deflating and refilling a balloon, but when you are dealing with a port and likely 20g tubing, it gets complicated.

[andromadax]

You were right. I found this on an Internet archiving site. It also said that they weigh around 42lbs or 19kg each,  in 2016.

[Bombayduk]

You were right. I found this on an Internet archiving site. It also said that they weigh around 42lbs or 19kg each,  in 2016.

Thanks for the research; I knew it had to have existed somewhere because this information was unlike any preceding thought.  I know having worked with internal ports for decades, it not only peeked my curiosity on how this exchange would be done, but what her implants were made from.  Beshine said that the company that made them was not in the breast implant business, which led me to consider polyurethane, the more common material for a variety of medical implants.  She would be right, it is more elastic and durable.  And once again, a fluid that becomes like silicone gel; polyurethane foam would certainly fill that description and, depending on the desired result, can be considerable lighter than saline.

Like I said, a great find and this statement contradicts those who believe that Beshine would even contemplate a reduction if not absolutely medically necessary; she wanted a permanent solution.   As much as her face lights up whenever she looks at or thinks about her boobs, it is difficult to make a valid assumption that she has made her boobs this enormous for any other stereotypical model purpose; they are not to get attention, they are fulfilling a dream.

Interesting that she stated 19kg back in 2016; I was not aware of that.  This does fall on the high end of my 16-20kg range I was estimating for that time, and needless to say, with the very visible expansion over the past 10 years, my 22.5kg estimation of lately may be a bit on the low side.  It may be hard for some to swallow that a girl could function with breasts so heavy, but she has years to gradually become accustomed to the increasing weight, so I openly see as more than probable.  On OF, we see the care she uses when assuming different positions and we hear the furniture creak as she uses it for support; this is entirely different material than found on her regular site.  We hear her breathing from the effort and see her excitement when her boobs do things she was not expecting; the videos may be planned, but as with everything, the unexpected may occur and when you have enormous boobs, it certainly increases the likelihood.

I had mentioned at least a year ago on both Foxy's and Mary's OF that if they are really serious about getting custom made implants of enormous size, they should explore European companies making medical polyurethane products simply because I had suspected Beshine's may be made of it.  I never heard back from either.  The "specially designed material" certainly fills that bill and as I have opined before, they likely have a design more like tissue expanders, with a remote port, making them safer than traditional expander breast implants where the port is on the implant surface.

Again, thanks for the research.

[solvegas]

You were right. I found this on an Internet archiving site. It also said that they weigh around 42lbs or 19kg each,  in 2016.

Thanks for the research; I knew it had to have existed somewhere because this information was unlike any preceding thought.  I know having worked with internal ports for decades, it not only peeked my curiosity on how this exchange would be done, but what her implants were made from.  Beshine said that the company that made them was not in the breast implant business, which led me to consider polyurethane, the more common material for a variety of medical implants.  She would be right, it is more elastic and durable.  And once again, a fluid that becomes like silicone gel; polyurethane foam would certainly fill that description and, depending on the desired result, can be considerable lighter than saline.

Like I said, a great find and this statement contradicts those who believe that Beshine would even contemplate a reduction if not absolutely medically necessary; she wanted a permanent solution.   As much as her face lights up whenever she looks at or thinks about her boobs, it is difficult to make a valid assumption that she has made her boobs this enormous for any other stereotypical model purpose; they are not to get attention, they are fulfilling a dream.

Interesting that she stated 19kg back in 2016; I was not aware of that.  This does fall on the high end of my 16-20kg range I was estimating for that time, and needless to say, with the very visible expansion over the past 10 years, my 22.5kg estimation of lately may be a bit on the low side.  It may be hard for some to swallow that a girl could function with breasts so heavy, but she has years to gradually become accustomed to the increasing weight, so I openly see as more than probable.  On OF, we see the care she uses when assuming different positions and we hear the furniture creak as she uses it for support; this is entirely different material than found on her regular site.  We hear her breathing from the effort and see her excitement when her boobs do things she was not expecting; the videos may be planned, but as with everything, the unexpected may occur and when you have enormous boobs, it certainly increases the likelihood.

I had mentioned at least a year ago on both Foxy's and Mary's OF that if they are really serious about getting custom made implants of enormous size, they should explore European companies making medical polyurethane products simply because I had suspected Beshine's may be made of it.  I never heard back from either.  The "specially designed material" certainly fills that bill and as I have opined before, they likely have a design more like tissue expanders, with a remote port, making them safer than traditional expander breast implants where the port is on the implant surface.

Again, thanks for the research.

What an interesting entry Bombayduk.

[Miggieknows]

So Bom

You think Beshine is bigger in boobs vs your estimated 22k ccs

[Bombayduk]

So Bom

You think Beshine is bigger in boobs vs your estimated 22k ccs

I believe that is a pretty good estimate based on observations, and if she stated in 2016 that she was 19k, another 3k is a modest increase compared to the visual difference I have seen over the past 10 years.  And as I previously said, it was around that time, perhaps 2017, that she posted on Twitter that she was over 80, which I interpreted as pounds, in other words, around 19k.  The pieces of the puzzle seem to fit.

Though I know it can be done, boobs weighing 100 pounds are just such a high mark that it is difficult to wrap your head around it.  But the evidence does suggest that is the case and watching OF videos, we see and hear the effort required to do the things she does.  And as I have said before, I do believe for quite some time, even back to her old site, that the cuts in the videos are not only for taking still pictures, but so as to not show anyone her struggling; we seldom see certain position changes, like getting from her back to getting on her feet.  I believe this is because it is quite difficult and Beshine does not want to show anything but how much she loves having massive boobs.

So, yes, they likely weigh 22k, and very possibly even more.

[Maik]

You were right. I found this on an Internet archiving site. It also said that they weigh around 42lbs or 19kg each,  in 2016.

from the technically side: I would like to know which material might be match the needed spezification.

Cause silicone implants can break too, so I see no moore safty. I bet sterile saline might be even better when leaking in the body than silicone.
So if she doesn't want the rist of leaking, should this material get kind of solid after inserted?

[titorteat]

About that permanent filler. I straight up asked her about that in a 1 on 1 cam session some years ago and she said this wasn't true and that she never said anything about that. I too seem to remember her talking about this in the past but when I went to look in the early pages of this thread I can't find anything about it. Is it possible that the 'community' innocently made it up and started believing it?

Perhaps she just didn't want to talk about it - and that is a choice she has the right to make. But, as recently as 2022, her website had a FAQ in form of an interview, where the permanent replacement fluid is mentioned more than once.

Ah, thanks for that; the idea of a replacement fluid is not something anyone would seriously imagine without reading it somewhere.  I knew it had to be posted somewhere.  If she now denies the intent, I would suggest she has changed her mind; ever since I first read about it, I have wondered how this could be safely accomplished.  It may sound like deflating and refilling a balloon, but when you are dealing with a port and likely 20g tubing, it gets complicated.

There might be other things to consider as well. Beshine's breasts are not really all that soft – its mesmerizing to watch her gently tap her implant and see how the small waves travel through it. For a lack of a better way to express it, the implants are – or have become – like tensioned drums. I think its because the expanders have been filled beyond the point where the material of the shell must stretch. It means that there is some pressure inside the implants. What would happen if the saline would be replaced with a fluid that has considerably higher viscosity, that nevertheless would also have to be under the heightened pressure (to reach a size equal to the saline fill)? Would the implants then lose their springiness, wobble and the remaining softness? Would that be desirable?

Though Beshine's breasts remain quite round at all times, they still do change shape depending on her position. Whether she is standing, lying on her back or on her side, or if her breasts are in contact with some surface. If the replacement fluid sets to some more solid state where its impossible for it to leak, would the solidifying also mean that the implants would stay the same shape regardless of the position she takes? Would it also mean that she would have to be very careful while the solidifying process is under way, so as to prevent the implants setting into a shape that is less than ideal?

In any case the replacement fluid seems like a novel idea. One would think some kind of testing would take place before the procedure is done to someone who has this kind of implants inside her breasts. I have read some big implant models have spare implants in case one or more would have to be replaced. Would not be a surprize if Beshine had more than two of the big shells, though I do remember reading her expressing regret to not have taken a photo of the implants before they were installed. That would indicate that there are no more than two of the big ones. If there have been more than two, tests may have been conducted with the replacement fluid. If Beshine has changed her mind about the replacement fluid, such test may have been unsatisfactory.


Of course all  of the above may be incorrect...

[Bombayduk]

^You guys make very valid points and observations, which do pose questions.  My take on some things is different, but maybe thought provoking also.  As often the case, it may be long as I try to convey my thoughts clearly.

Coincidently, I just watched a few videos yesterday that I knew Beshine was walking braless at some point and there remains no doubt in my mind that all the wobbling originated from her implants jiggling on her chest wall; like a pendulum, a tiny movement become much more at full length.  I'm sure her implants do have a tiny jiggle to them but the profound visible movement originates at the chest wall.  When she taps a breast, any waves are quite limited, not like you would witness from a water filled balloon; in a recent video, she demonstrated just how firm they were; it looked like her finger depressed perhaps a quarter inch.  But that is not to say that her implants are over-filled; I believe they are only now reaching the designed volume.  As her underboob fold has decreased, we also see that her boobs flatten less when resting on a table or sink; indicative of no longer being as under-filled as they once were; changing shape should indicate an under-filled implant.  I find the visual evidence of under-filled vs filled mostly in picture of her lying on her back; in 2019, she posted a picture set on the sofa in her cam room.  Her breasts still kind of flatted out against her chest, creating more of a dome shape.  Flash forward to OF material of the past couple years and we see her breasts width increasing with projection, exactly what one would expect from implants filled closer to designed capacity.

I agree, her breast do change shape somewhat depending upon position, but less than they used to do.  I believe much of this can be attributed to her internal bra when standing upright (IMHO, the most profound shape change).  It is essentially a sling that prevents the breast sinking any lower than the braided suture cords supporting either end, so in essence, the implant is lying on that surface when upright, thus flattening and becoming a bit wider.  It may only increase the width an inch, but they do look different versus the shape when allowing them to hang freely.

Another thing is my citing polyurethane; likely because of the different levels of firmness, from hard to soft, it has many practical applications and is more durable and elastic than silicone; they have found that it can make superior implants.  Of course, there may be other products as well, but polyurethane has been around for decades in the medical field and has been used for tissue expanders.  And if you have ever dealt with sealants, you know that it can go from a liquid form to various degrees of expanded forms in a matter of seconds or hours for molding.

I have wondered what would happen if one implant ruptured, if she had a spare pair.  Logic and her willingness to take precautions says yes and we know money has never been an object.  Talking them out of the vacuum sealed package for a picture would be a bad idea, but taking a picture of her current ones before insertion may have been nice.  And having worked with medical ports for decades, I am a bit befuddled on the refilling after draining; the viscosity would have to be very similar to saline not to clog the narrow tubing.  I was also a bit befuddled on whether the implants re-expanding beneath her now massively deflated skin tissue would match the previous shape without stress until I discovered that unlike silicone, polyurethane gradually adheres to the skin.  And like you mention, while this liquid solidifies and becomes a gel, what position should Beshine assume as this takes place?  She would definitely want her resulting gel to conform to her chest wall.  Still, I think she has found someone with not only expert skills, but who has thought these things through; considering how enormous she has made her breasts without major complications or defects in appearance, this took great planning.

While the plan for a permanent replacement filler remain a mystery, it is both a novel and smart approach that may eliminate the threat of leaks.  I hope that if she proceeds with it, that the gel version if more like a foam version, thus becoming incredibly lighter.  Perhaps she already know this and is looking forward to it as the weight of her boobs is common OF fodder and less weight would be a much healthier alternative.

 Yep, could be wrong, but I do enjoy the thought provoking banter.

[Miggieknows]

You guys have good point and observation and it is true about when Beshine is laying down on her back you would see folds under the boobs vs now it is now visible and yes width wise her boobs gotten wider and projection is more accurate as well … Beshine boobs are massively gigantic….. and it’s true about her when slapping her giant boobs you can kinda see some waves but not like that they do wiggle and bounce and the claps when Beshine boobs are the most amazing……

Yesterday Beshine posted a pic and holy moly !!!!! Just by looking at the pic the pose and all but the size of her boobs look so much bigger and wider and on the 23rd of this month ofcourse she posted a breathtaking pose side view so sexy and beautiful she is always and wow  super side massive side boobs !!! Truly amazing

Pictures like she posted on the 21st and 7th smh amazingly beautiful and sexy and the view is something special front view and all you see is her sexy beautiful self and her GINORMOUS lovely boobs front view
Id love to see her do more often in videos just sit there looking so majestic.

Have you guys seen her OF LMK

[Bombayduk]

You guys have good point and observation and it is true about when Beshine is laying down on her back you would see folds under the boobs vs now it is now visible and yes width wise her boobs gotten wider and projection is more accurate as well … Beshine boobs are massively gigantic….. and it’s true about her when slapping her giant boobs you can kinda see some waves but not like that they do wiggle and bounce and the claps when Beshine boobs are the most amazing……

Yesterday Beshine posted a pic and holy moly !!!!! Just by looking at the pic the pose and all but the size of her boobs look so much bigger and wider and on the 23rd of this month ofcourse she posted a breathtaking pose side view so sexy and beautiful she is always and wow  super side massive side boobs !!! Truly amazing

Pictures like she posted on the 21st and 7th smh amazingly beautiful and sexy and the view is something special front view and all you see is her sexy beautiful self and her GINORMOUS lovely boobs front view
Id love to see her do more often in videos just sit there looking so majestic.

Have you guys seen her OF LMK

It wasn't until I read this about the clapping that I instantly realized that using the word "waves" was not accurate at all; what we witness is "vibrations."  Though somewhat miniscule, they likely happen even as her boobs wobble bralessly and with the small bounce and swing while wearing two bras.  Yes indeed, the Beach Boys were right; Good Vibrations, she's giving me excitations.

[titorteat]

^You guys make very valid points and observations, which do pose questions.  My take on some things is different, but maybe thought provoking also.  As often the case, it may be long as I try to convey my thoughts clearly.

Coincidently, I just watched a few videos yesterday that I knew Beshine was walking braless at some point and there remains no doubt in my mind that all the wobbling originated from her implants jiggling on her chest wall; like a pendulum, a tiny movement become much more at full length.  I'm sure her implants do have a tiny jiggle to them but the profound visible movement originates at the chest wall.  When she taps a breast, any waves are quite limited, not like you would witness from a water filled balloon; in a recent video, she demonstrated just how firm they were; it looked like her finger depressed perhaps a quarter inch.  But that is not to say that her implants are over-filled; I believe they are only now reaching the designed volume.  As her underboob fold has decreased, we also see that her boobs flatten less when resting on a table or sink; indicative of no longer being as under-filled as they once were; changing shape should indicate an under-filled implant.  I find the visual evidence of under-filled vs filled mostly in picture of her lying on her back; in 2019, she posted a picture set on the sofa in her cam room.  Her breasts still kind of flatted out against her chest, creating more of a dome shape.  Flash forward to OF material of the past couple years and we see her breasts width increasing with projection, exactly what one would expect from implants filled closer to designed capacity.

I agree, her breast do change shape somewhat depending upon position, but less than they used to do.  I believe much of this can be attributed to her internal bra when standing upright (IMHO, the most profound shape change).  It is essentially a sling that prevents the breast sinking any lower than the braided suture cords supporting either end, so in essence, the implant is lying on that surface when upright, thus flattening and becoming a bit wider.  It may only increase the width an inch, but they do look different versus the shape when allowing them to hang freely.

Another thing is my citing polyurethane; likely because of the different levels of firmness, from hard to soft, it has many practical applications and is more durable and elastic than silicone; they have found that it can make superior implants.  Of course, there may be other products as well, but polyurethane has been around for decades in the medical field and has been used for tissue expanders.  And if you have ever dealt with sealants, you know that it can go from a liquid form to various degrees of expanded forms in a matter of seconds or hours for molding.

I have wondered what would happen if one implant ruptured, if she had a spare pair.  Logic and her willingness to take precautions says yes and we know money has never been an object.  Talking them out of the vacuum sealed package for a picture would be a bad idea, but taking a picture of her current ones before insertion may have been nice.  And having worked with medical ports for decades, I am a bit befuddled on the refilling after draining; the viscosity would have to be very similar to saline not to clog the narrow tubing.  I was also a bit befuddled on whether the implants re-expanding beneath her now massively deflated skin tissue would match the previous shape without stress until I discovered that unlike silicone, polyurethane gradually adheres to the skin.  And like you mention, while this liquid solidifies and becomes a gel, what position should Beshine assume as this takes place?  She would definitely want her resulting gel to conform to her chest wall.  Still, I think she has found someone with not only expert skills, but who has thought these things through; considering how enormous she has made her breasts without major complications or defects in appearance, this took great planning.

While the plan for a permanent replacement filler remain a mystery, it is both a novel and smart approach that may eliminate the threat of leaks.  I hope that if she proceeds with it, that the gel version if more like a foam version, thus becoming incredibly lighter.  Perhaps she already know this and is looking forward to it as the weight of her boobs is common OF fodder and less weight would be a much healthier alternative.

 Yep, could be wrong, but I do enjoy the thought provoking banter.

One wild thought could also be that Beshine already has replaced the saline with the mystery substance, and evaded andromadax's question because she wants to maintain the image of ever expanding breasts.

If Beshine's implants are made of material that is much more elastic and durable than silicone, it could mean that while the shells must be enormous, they actually may not be as large as one might think – they just can withstand much more stretching than shells made of more conventional material. If that is the case, she may have started overfilling long time ago, and it could explain why her implants have seemed (to me anyway) to be so firm from very early on.

I think the polyurethane used in construction expands because when it comes into contact with air, a reaction occurs and gases begin to form inside the material. Probably not something one wants to happen inside the body.

[Bombayduk]

One wild thought could also be that Beshine already has replaced the saline with the mystery substance, and evaded andromadax's question because she wants to maintain the image of ever expanding breasts.

If Beshine's implants are made of material that is much more elastic and durable than silicone, it could mean that while the shells must be enormous, they actually may not be as large as one might think – they just can withstand much more stretching than shells made of more conventional material. If that is the case, she may have started overfilling long time ago, and it could explain why her implants have seemed (to me anyway) to be so firm from very early on.

I think the polyurethane used in construction expands because when it comes into contact with air, a reaction occurs and gases begin to form inside the material. Probably not something one wants to happen inside the body.

Plausible that she avoided the question because she had already completed the replacement, however, IMHO, it would have had to be recently, within the past year or so because OF pictures certainly displayed further expansion through late 2023 in my opinion.  The problems with this theory are not only that she did not release the final volume as she once said she would, and though I would like to assume a lighter filler, but recent videos still display the same heavy breathing and creaking furniture.

As much and as frequently as she continued to state that her implants were under-filled, I think it is safe to say that they are not expanded past the designed volume, but that they were enormous to start.  Remember, when they were placed, she went 4 months empty before any saline was instilled, meaning that not only was she playing it safe and allowing time to heal properly, but those empty implants took up the space her overly inflated 3000cc implants had, no doubt to the tune of perhaps 4000+cc.  That is a significant amount of space for empty implants.

I know the sealant you are referring to, designed to quickly seal and expand, however, in a prior job, we also used a different polyurethane that we poured into molds and usually waited a couple days in creating specific durable yet flexible machine part covers.  It didn't expand like the foam, but was more like very durable rubber.  The thing is, polyurethane comes in many forms for many usages.  I worked in open heart back in the 90s when pig vales were common place, but now they use polyurethane (flexible), much like they do for skeletal joints (firm).  While I'm pretty sure Beshine cannot use a expanding foam type, she could plausibly use something like the gel foam used in B-lyte implants that are 30% lighter.  I'm sure that would feel incredibly lighter after years of building her strength to carry saline filled implants.

[Miggieknows]

One wild thought could also be that Beshine already has replaced the saline with the mystery substance, and evaded andromadax's question because she wants to maintain the image of ever expanding breasts.

If Beshine's implants are made of material that is much more elastic and durable than silicone, it could mean that while the shells must be enormous, they actually may not be as large as one might think – they just can withstand much more stretching than shells made of more conventional material. If that is the case, she may have started overfilling long time ago, and it could explain why her implants have seemed (to me anyway) to be so firm from very early on.

I think the polyurethane used in construction expands because when it comes into contact with air, a reaction occurs and gases begin to form inside the material. Probably not something one wants to happen inside the body.

Plausible that she avoided the question because she had already completed the replacement, however, IMHO, it would have had to be recently, within the past year or so because OF pictures certainly displayed further expansion through late 2023 in my opinion.  The problems with this theory are not only that she did not release the final volume as she once said she would, and though I would like to assume a lighter filler, but recent videos still display the same heavy breathing and creaking furniture.

As much and as frequently as she continued to state that her implants were under-filled, I think it is safe to say that they are not expanded past the designed volume, but that they were enormous to start.  Remember, when they were placed, she went 4 months empty before any saline was instilled, meaning that not only was she playing it safe and allowing time to heal properly, but those empty implants took up the space her overly inflated 3000cc implants had, no doubt to the tune of perhaps 4000+cc.  That is a significant amount of space for empty implants.

I know the sealant you are referring to, designed to quickly seal and expand, however, in a prior job, we also used a different polyurethane that we poured into molds and usually waited a couple days in creating specific durable yet flexible machine part covers.  It didn't expand like the foam, but was more like very durable rubber.  The thing is, polyurethane comes in many forms for many usages.  I worked in open heart back in the 90s when pig vales were common place, but now they use polyurethane (flexible), much like they do for skeletal joints (firm).  While I'm pretty sure Beshine cannot use a expanding foam type, she could plausibly use something like the gel foam used in B-lyte implants that are 30% lighter.  I'm sure that would feel incredibly lighter after years of building her strength to carry saline filled implants.

Wonder how much bigger Beshine is aiming for when if whenever she does look into this gel foam filler that you guys speak of , if so the size of her boobs her grow to maybe twice the size now that she is ??…… just saying wondering if that’s possibly possible and we’ll Beshine is looking very much bigger now a days and talking about videos I’ve seen some and there’s one of her like breathing hard and she like sighs and moans of the weight and size of her boobs while she’s laying on the floor with boobs towering over her head ….. and the other video is of her clapping her lovely giant boobs on some staircase stairs leading to a bed room well while Beshine is doing the boobs clap you also hear the steps she’s on cracking and crecking and snapping …. Extraordinary woman for the strength she has knowing the weight is heavy I mean she expressed this in many of her Q&A VIDEOS how her boobs feels when she moves bends claps walking etc etc ….. amazing how the human body is

She’s looking very pretty in black today she posted a pic of herself side view laying forward and boobs there massive sitting looking majestic laying on the floor
And the top she’s wearing looks like the seams is coming out getting loose like the fabric will be ripping sooner or later and also I can see at the top tip where it should be covering her areolas well you can see part of the areola which means that the top is too small… :^o :^o

[Bombayduk]

^Not likely, Miggie, any boob growth is limited to her skin; expansion foam is more a fantasy thing.  Light weight fillers that do not expand are certainly an option, however, as Beshine has said, this only happens after she reaches her designed size.