[Dracon]

i dont normally post on the boards, but hitomi is now one of my favorite models and having a stupid argument that could be settled with a simple apology(which refuses to be given) is an eyesore on this thread.

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TheOtherMacman said:
Exactly, and I never tried to claim otherwise!

please see

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TheOtherMacman said:
Once again, if you want to continue believing that this sudden explosion of big busted Japanese girls when there were almost none before is all-natural, go right ahead. But please don't criticise me for pointing out the reality.

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I vowed never to post here again after the hostile response I got last time to letting people know that a model did in fact have implants

btw, "the last time"="the previous time", which implies that you are once again pointing out that a model "does in fact have implants."

yes, you have tried to claim otherwise. the above quotes are both related to the issue at hand of hitomi(being a japanese girl who you have pointed out to be "fake"), and implies that you have pointed out the factual 'reality' by pointing your finger and shouting "fake!"

i realize that at other points you have said that it is your opinion, but please stop trying to pretend that you have NEVER stated it as fact. you have clearly at least done so, or very strongly implied so, indirectly.

and it's also clear you don't really think it's just your opinion anyways. you think you've looked at a video and discovered the truth(or, evidence that only you have accepted as evidence). this is why people get frustrated with you.

just apologize. it's not like anyone here knows you in real life. i am pretty sure -everyone- on this board either disagrees with you or doesn't care, and therefore no one wants to discuss it. you're doing little more than trolling by **77** an unwanted discussion.

[FlapJackFun]

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adlion944 said:
http://forum.scanlover.com/showthread.php?t=15832&page=6

There's a 5 minute video up that has her in full motion...

Is there a reason why I can't view this link?  

[TheOtherMacman]

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Dracon said:
i dont normally post on the boards, but hitomi is now one of my favorite models and having a stupid argument that could be settled with a simple apology(which refuses to be given) is an eyesore on this thread.

What is there to aplogise for? I've simply stated my opinion that Hitomi's breats aren't natural, and (unlike anybody else) backed up my opinion with hard evidence. Whether she's natural or not doesn't change the fact that she is a great model - her DVD will be the first Japanese idol DVD I've bought in ages. Even though I think they're fake, I think her tits are fantatstic! They don't need to be natural to be great, and she is now one of my favourite models too (fake or not).

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TheOtherMacman said:
Exactly, and I never tried to claim otherwise!

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TheOtherMacman said:
Once again, if you want to continue believing that this sudden explosion of big busted Japanese girls when there were almost none before is all-natural, go right ahead. But please don't criticise me for pointing out the reality.

yes you did. the above quote is pretty directly related to the issue at hand of hitomi(being a japanese girl who you have pointed out to be "fake"), and implies that you have pointed out the factual 'reality' by pointing your finger and shouting "fake!"

The fact I refer to here is that several of the current crop of Japanese models have implants. This is undisputed. The question is, how many, and does Hitomi have them?

Once again, I see everyone is just reponding to what I write emotionally. Why are people so reluctant to deal in facts on this issue? Watch the video, look for the things I mention, and see if you agree. If you don't, explain why - based on the evidence.

[TheOtherMacman]

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I vowed never to post here again after the hostile response I got last time to letting people know that a model did in fact have implants

btw, "the last time"="the previous time", which implies that you are once again pointing out that a model "does in fact have implants."

I see that after I showed your last quote from me to be wrong, you've pulled another one out of context. So out of everything I've written (which repeatedly makes it clear that I'm stating an opinion), you've managed to find one quote which suggests otherwise. How many times do I have to make it clear that I am stating my opinion before people get it, instead of latching on to one quote which suggests I'm not? And at the same time, no one is criticising FlapJackFun for stating his opinion Hitomi is natural as fact. This is an outrageous double standard!

[FangBlade]

I've only delurked a handful of times on this board, but what's going on in this thread is ridiculous.  TheOtherMacman has stated time and again that everything he says is his opinion, and in my opinion, put forth evidence and reasons why he believes so.  Just because it happens to be that he believes Hitomi has implants everyone has to jump down his throat, even with repeated disclaimers that its only his opinion (or the facts as he sees them).  Yet on the other side we have several people screaming "What do you know?  Hitomi says they're all real, so they ARE real!"  I find it even more ridiculous that these people are allowed to repeatedy make such proclamations and nobody cares that those people are attempting to make factual statements without any evidence other than the model's word (as if we know Hitomi and her word is 100% reputable).  Of course she's going to say she's all real, since that's what sells in Japan where her DVDs are released.

But you know what?  So what if they're real or fake.  Isn't all that matters that she looks great?  If you disagree with an opinion you can't you do it without attacking people?  Can't we get this whole thread back on track?

I'm sure someone will come in here and attack ME now for pointing out the sheer ridiculosity of the current conversation.  Well, I'm happy to be a free punching bag if it will just make some of you take two seconds and think about what the heck it is that's going on in here.

Now...back to Hitomi...My DVD order won't arrive for 3 or 4 more days!  

[TheOtherMacman]

Right on FangBlade! I'm looking forward to my Hitomi DVD too.

[FluG]

Thank you for the additional posts and pictures everyone! I can't wait until my DVD arrives.  =P

[Brahma]

I just downloaded this video, and all I can say is, Oh my god . . . !

[Brahma]

She's jiggly enough for me.

[TF22]

Here's the preview video download link for those unable to access it from the earlier post:

http://www.badongo.com/vid/521579

The striped-bikini scene is truly spectacular. If she isn't real, that is one amazing implant job.

[zeo]

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TheOtherMacman said:
I think you'd be surprised at how many gravure idols in particular have implants (I suspect one of the reasons they don't go topless is so you can't see the scars). If you want to continue living in the fantasy that this sudden explosion of huge breasted models in Japan is all-natural, that's fine with me.  

You do realize that we are talking about roughly a half dozen to maybe a dozen women (just taking the very busty ones) out of a huge population of millions in Japan. I wouldn't call it a huge explosion or even anything remarkable statistically. All there has to be is a desire for people to find them and money to be made.

And yes, some probably do have implants (for the very reason of making that money that is there on the table), but I don't see it as a huge and sudden explosion to see a few outliers on the curve in the modeling world. That's what the modeling world is, the outliers on the bell curve.

I just don't think it would be odd for there to be a half dozen beyond D-cup breasted women in all of Japan who had faces that wouldn't break a camera.

[TheOtherMacman]

It is true that few are as big as Hitomi, but there have been an awful lot of D-cup or bigger gravure models coming out of Japan in recent years (far more so than previously). This is highly suspicious statistically, and the fact that this coincides with the wide availability of breast surgery only makes it more so. On top of that, the fact that they don't take their tops off only adds to the suspicion (as it may be to hide signs of surgery, such as scarring) - when a real, undisputed natural wonder comes along (such as Anna Ohura or Jun Kusanagi), they usually don't have any qualms about taking their tops off.

Of course none of this actually proves anything, but it is highly suggestive that there is something more going on here than just mother nature.

[zeo]

There have been other changes.
1) diet in Japan.
2) internet.

A desire to find them is probably the biggest difference.

On another note, I watched that vid. she looks natural to me. Her breasts-waist-hips proportions are typical of many busty short girls of all races. Plus she's only somewhat bigger breasted than a japanese (born and raised in the US though) girl I knew in college.

Another thing to consider is that are we sure they are all 100% Japanese? Nothing else mixed in there, even a little?

[DTM]

It's really wonderful to go to bed over 8 hrs ago.
Wake up and find 10 new posts here.
Then see it's all still the same crap !  
No new pics or vids.  


thanks  

[unknown_0]

All people now. Stop smoking that crackpipe and get on the ground of the earth. Who cares if she has implants of not? As long as they look good. And those looks fine to me. They say Eden Mor has implants, Jana Defi has implants, probably Keira Knightley and Britney Spears have implants? But they don't have. Oh noes...