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Re: Sarah Palin
« Reply #390 on: October 03, 2008, 02:54:41 PM »
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Yeah, a winky hinky VP would do wonders.

"Of course we're not going to bomb Iraq!  *wink*"


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Re: Sarah Palin
« Reply #391 on: October 03, 2008, 11:56:28 PM »
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Am I the only one that noticed she addressed Biden as "O'Biden" once?


No, I caught that too. She also referred to the Iraqi leader as "the Talibani" as if she was Ivana Trump talking about her ex-husband. In the interest of fairness, let me state that Biden, when talking about his work in preventing the ethnic cleansing in the former Yugoslavia, talked about "Serbs, Croats, and Bosniacs"

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Her "well gosh, golly gee....! Stop refering to the past!" cutsie dig at Biden whilst quoting Regan is just stoooopid.


Her logic: Joe (can I call you Joe?) don't refer to the past and stop pointing fingers, because it only shows how much we Republicans fucked things up all these years. Of course, as long as I can see a place where you Democrats messed up, I shall do all the finger-pointing I like.
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When speaking of her family, she acknowledged her eldest son in Iraq, her youngest son with special needs and completely avoided her pregnant teen, lumping her in with the everyday trials raising a family can bring.


Bill Maher referred to Bristol Palin's redneck boyfriend/baby daddy as "America's most famous political prisoner"
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When she referred to John McCain it was either "McCain" or "John McCain".  When Biden referred to Barack Obama it was either "Barack" or "Barack Obama".  It shows me that Biden has a more personal relationship with his boss.  I don't see that as a negative.  It shows they actually speak together.  That Palin never referred to her boss as "John" shows me that there's no personal relationship there.  He puppeteers her.  She's a "Yes man"  or girl.  


I noticed that at once too.
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However, she did do better than I thought she would but she didn't bring anything convincing or new to the podium.


Yep, you betcha by golly wow.

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Re: Sarah Palin
« Reply #392 on: October 04, 2008, 12:14:32 AM »
Elisabeth Hasselbeck should just give it up. Her knee-jerk approval of Sarah Palin and her "experience" and "competence", in the face of glaring evidence to the contrary, is painful to watch. She's almost like a female Nicolas Chauvin at this point. I mean, it got to the stage that even Baba Wawa had to try and rein her in:

The View: "Hasselbeck fights for Palin"


I predict that she will find a home at Faux News Channel very soon after the election is over at this rate.
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Re: Sarah Palin
« Reply #393 on: October 04, 2008, 03:18:50 AM »
Also,  
I can't think of anything creative to put here, so i give up.

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Re: Sarah Palin
« Reply #394 on: October 04, 2008, 03:37:39 AM »
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TheZookie007 said:
Elisabeth Hasselbeck should just give it up. Her knee-jerk approval of Sarah Palin and her "experience" and "competence", in the face of glaring evidence to the contrary, is painful to watch. She's almost like a female Nicolas Chauvin at this point. I mean, it got to the stage that even Baba Wawa had to try and rein her in:

The View: "Hasselbeck fights for Palin"


I predict that she will find a home at Faux News Channel very soon after the election is over at this rate.




I can't edit anything here, but can only agree.
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Re: Sarah Palin
« Reply #395 on: October 04, 2008, 03:44:15 AM »
According to The Chicago Tribune, which reviewed the tape, she winked six times.

Yes. This is what the nation needs.

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Re: Sarah Palin
« Reply #396 on: October 04, 2008, 03:54:45 AM »
Well, folksy failed 51-36 according to CNN, but from Fox News, 88-10 thought Palin won.  That alone should make anyone run screaming in fear.  
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Re: Sarah Palin
« Reply #397 on: October 04, 2008, 05:27:40 AM »
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Well, folksy failed 51-36 according to CNN, but from Fox News, 88-10 thought Palin won.  That alone should make anyone run screaming in fear.  



Based on this and based on what onionwriter has mentioned previously regarding Fox taking down anti-Palin (facts, not smears) posts which some of their journos have been putting up, I'm guessing (and I know I'm showing my ignorance here) that Fox is in the Republican party's hip pocket.  Right next to the wallet.

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Re: Sarah Palin
« Reply #398 on: October 04, 2008, 06:01:50 AM »
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The Huffington Post: "Palin On Fox News: 'Couric Annoyed Me'"

On a friendlier news outlet, Gov. Sarah Palin said she was "annoyed" with the way Katie Couric handled their interview and complained that the CBS Evening News host failed to give her the opportunity to take a proverbial axe to Barack Obama.

In a portion of her sit-down with Fox News correspondent Carl Cameron, Palin claimed that Couric's questions -- which produced a series of staggeringly embarrassing responses -- put her in a lose-lose position.

"The Sarah Palin in those interviews was a little bit annoyed," she said. "It's like, man, no matter what you say, you are going to get clobbered. If you choose to answer a question, you are going to get clobbered on the answer. If you choose to try to pivot and go to another subject that you believe that Americans want to hear about, you get clobbered for that too."

For the record, Couric asked her, among other things, what type of news sources she turns to for information, which Supreme Court decisions she disagreed with, why Alaska's proximity to Russia gave her foreign policy experience, her opinion of the bailout package for Wall Street, and where she thought Vice President Dick Cheney erred. Which one of those questions was designed to trip her up (as opposed to, say, give viewers a better sense of her character and views) is tough to ascertain.

Later in her interview with Cameron, Palin offered a sense of what she thinks would have been a fairer set of questions. Unsurprisingly, they all would have provided her the opportunity to rail against Obama.

"In those Katie Couric interviews, I did feel that there were lot of things that she was missing in terms of an opportunity to ask what a VP candidate stands for, what the values are represented in our ticket. I wanted to talk about Barack Obama increasing taxes, which would lead to killing jobs. I wanted to talk about his proposal to increase government spending by another trillion dollars. Some of his comments that he's made about the war, that I think may, in my world, disqualify someone from consideration as the next commander in chief. Some of the comments that he has made about Afghanistan -- what we are doing there, supposedly just air raiding villages and killing civilians. That's reckless. I want to talk about things like that. So I guess I have to apologize for being a bit annoyed, but that's also an indication of being outside the Washington elite, outside of the media elite also. I just wanted to talk to Americans without the filter and let them know what we stand for."



She didn't interview you so that you could turn it into an Obama-bashing platform; that's what you have campaign ads for. She interviewed you so that you could introduce yourself to the American people and let them see what kind of person you are and what kind of vice-president you would make. From this article, I guess now we know all too well. When you stutter when a journalist asks you to name one newspaper that you read regularly, you know (or at least you SHOULD know) that you have no business trying to become the vice president of the United States of America.
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Re: Sarah Palin
« Reply #399 on: October 04, 2008, 06:43:23 AM »
Blh blah blah.  
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Re: Sarah Palin
« Reply #400 on: October 04, 2008, 06:47:40 AM »
Here's the Fox News story that disappeared within two hours. I grabbed it, believe it or not, off a Chinese website that captured and re-reported it. I thought to copy it for my own blog, and I'm glad I did.

Conservatives Begin Questioning Palin's Heft
Date: Sep 28, 2008 9:11:42 AM
A growing number of Republicans are expressing concern about Sarah Palin's uneven - and sometimes downright awkward - performances in her limited media appearances.

Conservative columnist Kathleen Parker, a former Palin supporter, says the vice presidential nominee should step aside. Kathryn Jean Lopez, writing for the conservative National Review, says "that's not a crazy suggestion" and that "something's gotta change."

Tony Fabrizio, a GOP strategist, says Palin's recent CBS appearance isn't disqualifying but is certainly alarming. "You can't continue to have interviews like that and not take on water."

"I have not been blown away by the interviews from her, but at the same time, I haven't come away from them thinking she doesn't know s-t," said Chris Lacivita, a GOP strategist. "But she ain't Dick Cheney, nor Joe Biden and definitely not Hillary Clinton."

There is no doubt that Palin retains a tremendous amount of support among rank-and-file Republicans. She draws huge crowds, continues to raise a lot of money for the McCain campaign, and state parties report she has sparked an uptick in the number of volunteers.

Asked about Palin's performance in the CBS interview, a McCain official briefing reporters on condition of anonymity said: "She did fine. She's a tremendous asset and a fantastic candidate."

But there is also no doubt many Republican insiders are worried she could blow next week's debate, based on her unexpectedly weak and unsteady media appearances, and hurt the Republican ticket if she does.

What follows is a viewer's guide to some of Palin's toughest moments on camera so far.

Speaking this week with CBS's Katie Couric, Palin seemed caught off-guard by a very predictable question about the status of McCain adviser Rick Davis' relationship with mortgage lender Freddie Mac. Davis was accused by several news outlets of retaining ties - and profiting from - the companies despite his denials.

Where a more experienced politician might have been able to brush off Couric's follow-up question, Palin seemed genuinely stumped, repeating the same answer twice and resorting to boilerplate language about the "undue influence of lobbyists."

These missteps could be attributed to inadequate preparation and don't necessarily reflect more deeply on Palin's ability to perform as vice president. But when reporters have tried to probe Palin's thinking on subjects such as foreign policy, she's been similarly opaque.

In an interview with ABC's Charlie Gibson, Palin gave a muddled answer to a question about her opinion of the Bush Doctrine.

And given the chance to describe her foreign policy credentials more fully, Palin recited familiar talking points, telling Gibson that her experience with energy policy was sufficient preparation for dealing with national security issues.

In the same interview, Palin let Gibson lead her into saying it might be necessary to wage war on Russia - a suggestion that most candidates would have avoided making explicitly and that signaled her discomfort in discussing global affairs.

Then, asked this week by Couric to discuss her knowledge of foreign relations - in particular, her assertion that Alaska's proximity to Russia gave her international experience - Palin tripped herself up explaining her interactions with Alaska's neighbor to the west.
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On the economy, too, Palin has avoided taking clear stances. In a largely friendly interview with Fox News Channel's Sean Hannity, Palin spoke in tangled generalities in response to a question about a possible Wall Street bailout - and even preempted her campaign by coming out against it.

On Thursday, Palin finally took questions from her traveling press - but shut things down quickly after Politico's Kenneth P. Vogel asked her whether she would support Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens, who has been indicted for corruption, and Rep. Don Young, who is under federal investigation, for reelection.

Unlike her other interviews, at least this time Palin had the option to walk away.

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Re: Sarah Palin
« Reply #401 on: October 04, 2008, 08:00:54 AM »
From the Los Angeles Times:

Sarah Palin's plane: Air Moose One?
On Friday morning in St. Louis, Sarah Palin's father, Chuck Heath, showed up at Lambert Field toting moose antlers -- not the usual sort of carry-on you see on a campaign plane.

It was unclear where the headgear formerly belonging to a moose was stowed on the day's first flight, to Dallas, where Palin attended a fundraiser. But later, as the plane began its descent into San Antonio for her second stop of the day, the mystery was solved, thanks to the federal regulations that require the curtains separating the cabins be open at takeoff and landing.

The door to the pilots' cabin was open, as well,  allowing an observer in the press cabin to note that the antlers had been placed -- macho style -- on the plane's dashboard of the plane.

Well before landing, the captain removed the antlers and gently placed them on the floor between him and his first officer.

A few hours later, the antlers were back on the dashboard, leading the way to Denver.

Turns out that Heath had schlepped them from Wasilla, Alaska, for his daughter to sign. They belong to a family friend, who wanted the autograph as a memento of her meteoric rise.  They will not be a permanent fixture on Palin's plane.

And for non-hunters out there, the moose whose head the antlers once adorned lost them the old fashioned way: they were shed.

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Re: Sarah Palin
« Reply #402 on: October 04, 2008, 11:12:47 AM »
What's that Sarah?  Interview didn't turn out the way you wanted it to?

Well boo-fucking-hoo.  Welcome to the hardball world of politics.

If you had simply wanted to have a platform where you could blather on uninterrupted about whatever YOU want to talk about (and ignoring the questions posed to you), then go announce a public speaking engagement at a major hotel, or maybe go on a televised debate.  Oh wait, you already did the latter... hmm, maybe more of the former...?

How about paying for your OWN television time, hhhmmm?  You actually thought Couric would just roll over and let you take over the interview?

Do ya think ya learned something there, Princess?  Huh?  Do ya?

 

Re: Sarah Palin
« Reply #403 on: October 04, 2008, 12:38:48 PM »
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In the interest of fairness, let me state that Biden, when talking about his work in preventing the ethnic cleansing in the former Yugoslavia, talked about "Serbs, Croats, and Bosniacs"





Serbs is correct.  Croats is correct. Bosniaks is correct.

What's the problem?

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Re: Sarah Palin
« Reply #404 on: October 04, 2008, 01:01:58 PM »
Indeed...Bosniaks is the correct term.