[ChrisR1]

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notty said:
I wish Obama hadn't said he supports clean coal (no such thing).  During the primaries, he took a stronger stance on the environment.  Now he's making concession after concession.  Yucky.

I'd say you're right - I've read a few articles about processes of burning coal under extreme pressure (around 3,000 PSI) where the combustion is very clean, but it's not very efficient (a lot of energy goes into the pressurization), so all the other aspects of the process (plant construction, transportation) take away a lot of the 'cleanliness'. Also, even if there were an efficient 'clean-coal' technology, the environmental impact of large scale coal mining operations is staggering.

[gOOber]

 

[gmantwo]

Who looked more presidential last night? To me it was no contest. Bill Maher compared McCain to the chief inspector in the old Pink Panther movies--remember the guy who, when incensed by Peter Sellers' character, would have uncontrollable tics and spasms?

Obama sat there as cool as the other side of the pillow. No wonder some of McCain's fellow GOP senators cringe at the thought of him with his finger on a nuclear trigger.

[TheZookie007]

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gmantwo: Who looked more presidential last night? To me it was no contest. Bill Maher compared McCain to the chief inspector in the old Pink Panther movies--remember the guy who, when incensed by Peter Sellers' character, would have uncontrollable tics and spasms?

Inspector Dreyfuss, yeah, that's an apt comparison. Quite unfortunate that this last debate was so badly managed by McCain. Instead of answering the questions with what he would do as president, he wasted his time by slamming Obama...and that gave Obama the time to explain his policies in even greater depth. Oopsie.

Short of a rig of 2000 proportions, Obama will win. Maybe not by a landslide but even a 1 point victory is still a victory. The final debate was the final reason why.

[TheZookie007]

It's ironic that of all networks, it's al-Jazeera that's showing this...

"Misconceptions of Obama fuel Republican campaign - 13 Oct 08"

The ignorance displayed by these voters is staggering, and frightening, and is the primary reason why I want an elite to run for president and not "Joe fill in the blank".

[gOOber]

I think the Washingion Post said it pretty well:

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Mr. Obama's temperament is unlike anything we've seen on the national stage in many years. He is deliberate but not indecisive; eloquent but a master of substance and detail; preternaturally confident but eager to hear opposing points of view. He has inspired millions of voters of diverse ages and races, no small thing in our often divided and cynical country. We think he is the right man for a perilous moment.  

[MasterDragonfly]

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notty said:
I wish Obama hadn't said he supports clean coal (no such thing).  

I support clean coal as well.  And teleportation.  And infinite wealth for everyone.

Someone wake me once these have been figured out.  

[MasterDragonfly]

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TheZookie007 said:
It's ironic that of all networks, it's al-Jazeera that's showing this...

"Misconceptions of Obama fuel Republican campaign - 13 Oct 08"

The ignorance displayed by these voters is staggering, and frightening, and is the primary reason why I want an elite to run for president and not "Joe fill in the blank".

Holy crap.

If I were a betting man, I'd say these same people believe that all Canadians live in igloos and are issued mukluks at birth.

So long as it's not a black man feeding them the spin, they'll continue eating it all up.

Hm.  Random thought here:

In Canada, Quebec (or at least Francophone Quebec) always seems to have its own separate agenda.  Usually separation.    I've wondered what Canada would be like if Quebec got its wish.  (And of course what Quebec would look like, after the First Nations separate from Quebec and rejoined Canada (what with their ownership of 25% of the landmass of Quebec, with claims on another 50%) as was proposed at one time.)

In the USA, it seems as though "the south" (and this is something I've never quite been able to define in terms of border, unlike Quebec) is equally unhappy with the political future.  So what would happen if "the south" were to split off from the rest of the USA?

[Hiram]

He's from Krypton apparently!

[3deroticer]

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MasterDragonfly said:

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notty said:
I wish Obama hadn't said he supports clean coal (no such thing).  

I support clean coal as well.  And teleportation.  And infinite wealth for everyone.

Someone wake me once these have been figured out.  

Sure! *slap slap*
Put the rock of Gibraltar in the pail of water with the coal
and it may not be clean but it'll be kosher and godliness clean!
Dream at nite and experience the outer body travel,
and Know that I love you all immensely with all of my heart, and now you are rewarded richly!

[3deroticer]

Al E Smith annual dinner:

Al Smith was a Democratic Governor of New York and in 1928 the first Catholic Presidential candidate.  Every four years the Al Smith Memorial Dinner has the Democratic and Republican Presidential candidates stand up... and tell jokes.

McCain 1

McCain 2

Obama 1

Obama 2

[SwitcherX]

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MasterDragonfly said:
In the USA, it seems as though "the south" (and this is something I've never quite been able to define in terms of border, unlike Quebec) is equally unhappy with the political future.  So what would happen if "the south" were to split off from the rest of the USA?

They tried it once.  It went badly.

[SwitcherX]

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TheZookie007 said:
Short of a rig of 2000 proportions, Obama will win. Maybe not by a landslide but even a 1 point victory is still a victory. The final debate was the final reason why.

I wonder how much of a factor the "Bradley effect" will play.

[notty]

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gOOber said:
I think the Washingion Post said it pretty well:

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Mr. Obama's temperament is unlike anything we've seen on the national stage in many years. He is deliberate but not indecisive; eloquent but a master of substance and detail; preternaturally confident but eager to hear opposing points of view. He has inspired millions of voters of diverse ages and races, no small thing in our often divided and cynical country. We think he is the right man for a perilous moment, and he gives us lots and lots of orgasms.

[gOOber]

So that explains the "O" face.