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« Reply #5430 on: November 18, 2016, 11:11:19 AM »
Bannon, Flynn, Sessions, Pampeo – right-wing revolution?

From a abroad point of view (german media):

Bannon: Breitbart staff; Breitbart himself (RIP) was a jew, pro-Israel, anti-Islamo-fascists.
Bannon is regardless to that facts tolerable for that organisation?

Flynn: military-expert, anti-IS, not blaming Islam as a whole, knows how to win wars - what's so bad about him?

Sessions: very conservative, making jokes on the KKK ("I left them due to their use of weed.." Well, not first-class joke, but ok), denies climate change caused by humas. Well: again, read in german newspaper. Is that accurate?

Pampeo: changed from Rubio to Trump, rejects Trump's misogynic slurs, pro-life (in exception if the mothers life is in harm), Islam-critic. Well, acceptable?

Enlight me, you fellow americans on this forum!

Thx!
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« Reply #5431 on: November 18, 2016, 11:38:48 PM »
Well I'm not a conservative socially or fiscally so all of that is shit to me. I'm pro-choice, anti-war, pro-welfare, I love legal and illegal aliens and feel they deserve respect (and my tax dollars).

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« Reply #5432 on: November 18, 2016, 11:54:45 PM »
So you were on cloud 9 and now Trump winning has you wishing you were dead? Get pretty down on things when they dont go your way? Thats pretty extreme and selfish.

Oh, I'm not upset for myself. I'm white, heterosexual, and middle-class. I'm fucking fine.

I'm upset for people who don't fall into at least two of those criteria.

Liberals said "Get over it" because Obama graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law, and respects social progress and humanitarianism.
Donald Trump is a businessman who is going to trial for sexual assault (the correct word is banned) charges, and was still elected president due to the electoral college and how badly Hillary underestimated him.

I as well underestimated the useless fucking morons in this country. I thought we were better than this. Don't like Hillary? Fine. But at least Hillary didn't want to restrict people coming into this country based on their religion. You know... that little thing that is a pillar of our country?

I wash my hands of this. Whatever damage this giant cock does to the world is on our hands now. We elected the fucker.
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« Reply #5433 on: November 22, 2016, 10:32:50 PM »
So on Monday, The Don summoned a couple dozen or so news media bigwigs to his palace on Fifth Avenue. Network execs like Jeff Zucker (CNN), anchors like Lester Holt (NBC), and commentators like Charlie Rose (CBS). It was all off the record; the people went in expecting to discuss things like press access to the White House. And since Donnie Boy hadn't held a press conference since July, they had hoped to get in a few other questions as well.....

"For more than twenty minutes, Trump railed about “outrageous” and “dishonest” coverage. When he was asked about the sort of “fake news” that now clogs social media, Trump replied that it was the networks that were guilty of spreading fake news. The “worst,” he said, were CNN (“liars!”) and NBC." [1]

"It was like a f−−−ing firing squad,” one source said of the encounter. Trump started with [CNN chief] Jeff Zucker and said, ‘I hate your network, everyone at CNN is a liar and you should be ashamed,’ ” the source said.  "The meeting was a total disaster. The TV execs and anchors went in there thinking they would be discussing the access they would get to the Trump administration, but instead they got a Trump-style dressing-down,” the source added. [2]

“Trump didn’t say [NBC reporter] Katy Tur by name, but talked about an NBC female correspondent who got it wrong, then he referred to a horrible network correspondent who cried when Hillary lost who hosted a debate — which was Martha Raddatz, who was also in the room.” [2]

“I have to tell you, I am emotionally fucking pissed,” another participant said. “How can this not influence coverage? I am being totally honest with you. Toward the end of the campaign, it got to a point where I thought that the coverage was all about [Trump’s] flaws and problems. And that’s legit. But, I thought, O.K., let’s give them the benefit of the doubt. After the meeting today, though—and I am being human with you here—I think, Fuck him! I know I am being emotional about it. And I know I will get over it in a couple of days after Thanksgiving. But I really am offended. This was unprecedented. Outrageous!” [1]

Insulting the people who will be reporting on and explaining your actions - to their face? "How to Win Friends and Influence People" by Donald Trump.

Trump mouthpiece Kellyanne Conway said the meeting went well.....

This is where we are. The President-elect does not care who knows how unforgiving or vain or distracted he is. This is who he is, and this is who will be running the executive branch of the United States government for four years. [1]

References:

1. DONALD TRUMP PERSONALLY BLASTS THE PRESS, By David Remnick, The New Yorker 11/22/16
2. Donald Trump’s media summit was a ‘f−−−ing firing squad’ by Emily Smith and Daniel Halper, NY Post, 11/22/16

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« Reply #5434 on: November 23, 2016, 02:07:37 AM »

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« Reply #5435 on: November 23, 2016, 12:55:28 PM »
From a abroad point of view (german media):

Enlight me, you fellow americans on this forum!

Quick question, how is that refugee program working out for you guys in Germany?
Imagine if Obama, Kamala, or Biden survived two assassination attempts and the media not publicly destroying the reputation of everyone who issued even the most mild criticism of them and then just dropping the story completely.

Yeah, I cannot either.

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« Reply #5436 on: November 23, 2016, 01:57:14 PM »
Trump yelled at members of the press that were in effect part of the Clinton campaign.  Boo hoo.
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« Reply #5437 on: November 23, 2016, 03:48:15 PM »


This is where we are. The President-elect does not care who knows how unforgiving or vain or distracted he is. This is who he is, and this is who will be running the executive branch of the United States government for four years. [1]


Good. Anyone who still believes and sympathizes with corporate media after Iraq is a f*cking moron. Trump called them out for the propagandizing self-serving liars they truly are. I wished Sanders had the balls to do that.

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« Reply #5438 on: November 23, 2016, 10:29:08 PM »
"Trump called them out for the propagandizing self-serving liars they truly are."

Yes. Fox News had representatives there.....

But these are the people you NEED to have on your side if you want to get the general public - who at last count gave Clinton TWO MILLION MORE VOTES than you (and possibly more Electoral Votes, too, if it turns out that things were tampered with in Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, as some are strongly suggesting) - behind you. You DO NOT accomplish that goal by insulting them to their faces.

And one more thing to worry about.....

Trump's got his name plastered all over luxury resorts around the world. When he actually becomes the face of America, won't they make tempting targets for terrorists?
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« Reply #5439 on: November 24, 2016, 05:07:56 PM »
Liberals said "Get over it" because Obama graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law, and respects social progress and humanitarianism.
Donald Trump is a businessman who is going to trial for sexual assault (the correct word is banned) charges, and was still elected president due to the electoral college and how badly Hillary underestimated him.

Because Obama "insert positive thing here."
Trump is a "insert negative thing here."

You can pick and choose however you want, liberals still demonstrate a gross amount of hypocrisy. The left want to pretend to be "inclusive" and loving and welcome to all. And vote against hate, anger and violence but have clearly demonstrated to be exactly that.

I as well underestimated the useless fucking morons in this country. I thought we were better than this. Don't like Hillary? Fine. But at least Hillary didn't want to restrict people coming into this country based on their religion. You know... that little thing that is a pillar of our country?

The only useless fucking morons in this country are the ones who preferred Hillary. Dont like Trump? Fine. But at least Trump actually wants to do something about our borders. You know... the little thing that actually makes us a country in the first place?

You see how these arguments can easily be changed? Its just a matter of preference or perception at this point.

Yes. Fox News had representatives there.....

But these are the people you NEED to have on your side if you want to get the general public behind you. You DO NOT accomplish that goal by insulting them to their faces.

Kind of hard to get CNN on your side when they blatantly fake their news to get the left angry.

Lets interview our own cameraman and have him pretend to be a Trump protester!

I mean, for Christs sake, HERE.

- who at last count gave Clinton TWO MILLION MORE VOTES than you (and possibly more Electoral Votes, too, if it turns out that things were tampered with in Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, as some are strongly suggesting) -

Ohhh yeah, right. Tampered with huh? The swing states that Trump won have to have been tampered with because some strongly suggest. Thats great. Lets just ignore the possibility of millions of votes from dead people, illegal immigrants and people who voted twice. Lets ignore all the George Soros owned machines in several states.

Lets keep believing the same people who told us Trump had NO CHANCE to win and the pollsters showing us Hillary was a shoe in.
Imagine if Obama, Kamala, or Biden survived two assassination attempts and the media not publicly destroying the reputation of everyone who issued even the most mild criticism of them and then just dropping the story completely.

Yeah, I cannot either.

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« Reply #5440 on: November 24, 2016, 05:15:41 PM »
But these are the people you NEED to have on your side if you want to get the general public -

They demagogued the shit out of Trump 24/7 everyday to give Hillary every advantage as possible and he still won. Traditional media is old media that's lost touch with the country. The average age viewership is over 60 for CNN, Fox, MSNBC and other news media outlets. 40% of people 18-20 don't watch TV at all. And yet here the media are trying censor the internet now as a desperate attempt to remain relevant.

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who at last count gave Clinton TWO MILLION MORE VOTES than you (and possibly more Electoral Votes, too, if it turns out that things were tampered with in Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, as some are strongly suggesting) - behind you. You DO NOT accomplish that goal by insulting them to their faces.

So why doesn't Hillary demand a recount herself? Unless she knows she stole those votes from Trump and others and be found out as a cheating fraud like she did with Bernie in the primary.

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Trump's got his name plastered all over luxury resorts around the world. When he actually becomes the face of America, won't they make tempting targets for terrorists?

Not as much as Obama's massive drone warfare on civilian muslims and bombing in 7 different countries with Yemen as the latest on false assumptions like Bush did for Iraq unless you didn't know about them thanks to corporate media.
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« Reply #5441 on: November 24, 2016, 10:31:25 PM »
But these are the people you NEED to have on your side if you want to get the general public

Trump doesn't need them.  He tweets directly or puts videos on youtube and tells the public directly.

A lot of people are calling for the end of the presidential press corp.  The press is desperate to have the public keep believing that they're needed.


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- who at last count gave Clinton TWO MILLION MORE VOTES than you (and possibly more Electoral Votes, too, if it turns out that things were tampered with in Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, as some are strongly suggesting) - behind you.

There's 538 electoral voters.  Simply have an FBI agent go to each one, show them who they officially voted for, and then ask if that's right.  It can be done in an afternoon if they wanted to.

Hillary lost.  That's not going to change.
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« Reply #5442 on: November 24, 2016, 11:21:15 PM »
Dont like Trump? Fine. But at least Trump actually wants to do something about our borders. You know... the little thing that actually makes us a country in the first place?

You see how these arguments can easily be changed? Its just a matter of preference or perception at this point.


What makes America America is our inclusion, not our borders.

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« Reply #5443 on: November 25, 2016, 12:38:57 AM »
From a abroad point of view (german media):

Enlight me, you fellow americans on this forum!

Quick question, how is that refugee program working out for you guys in Germany?

I will answer in a few days. At least: not too good.

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« Reply #5444 on: November 25, 2016, 01:31:15 AM »
Michigan finally announced their official results.  Trump won.
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