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« Reply #6825 on: May 27, 2018, 03:30:46 PM »
OK I remembered wrong. I remember wrong because, I always also hear the WHATABOUTISM in your texts.

So its MY fault that YOU were wrong? Youre too much.

I always hear ILOVECOMMUNISM in your texts.

The one and only ethics rule for the GOP is:

It's OK if you're a Republican.

Let's face it; they've been putting Party Above Country since Bill Clinton was elected in 1992. Remember Newt Gingrich's "Contract On For America", that summarized the GOP platform and set it in stone?

It's utterly baffling to me that anyone would support the GOP in their current complicity with all of this. Let's have a simple thought experiment: if President Barack Obama had done any of the things that David Frum says the current occupant of the Oval did during the 2016 campaign, would he still be President? Be honest, be truly honest. The answer is: HELL NO. And for good reason. So why are the GOP letting all of this slide? Is overturning Roe v. Wade really that important to them, and will that really improve things for their constituents? I mean, I understand the Congressional GOP wanting the tax plan passed, because that would directly benefit them (since so many of them are multimillionaires). But the rest of it?

It's utterly baffling.

The simple truth is, if Obama would have done the same as Trumpelstilsken did or being involved in, the current dumbest president of all times would be under the leading people asking for the electrical chair for Obama. Maybe even murdering him by asking his goons, his butt hole enhancing voters to shoot him down, bomb him away, take all their weapons and start a civil war marching against the Washington and the Whitehouse.

So three people who constantly express that its okay if its from the democrats/liberals are complaining that the GOP allegedly think its okay if youre a republican???

Thats rich.
Imagine if Obama, Kamala, or Biden survived two assassination attempts and the media not publicly destroying the reputation of everyone who issued even the most mild criticism of them and then just dropping the story completely.

Yeah, I cannot either.

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« Reply #6826 on: May 27, 2018, 03:50:44 PM »
In other news, we are seeing why people might turn out to vote for Trump again in 2020 due to the stupidity and attempt to insult the audience's intelligence with another manipulative fake news story by the mainstream media.

Donald Trump calls MS-13 "animals" and the democratic platform and the mainstream media quickly dig their own grave by doing the unthinkable; defend MS-13.

House Minority Leader, Nancy Pelosi!!!! herself went on a tirade defending MS-13 and trying to come across as a holier than thou person who cares about human life.

CBS, AP, New York Times, CNN, NBC, Washington Post, etc, all run stories with headlines suggesting Trump called illegal immigrants animals and they leave out the part that he was talking about MS-13. (But.... but.... but.... they made corrections!)

The village idiots all believe it and think this is another reason why Trump is a racist because he just called ALL ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS "ANIMALS."
Imagine if Obama, Kamala, or Biden survived two assassination attempts and the media not publicly destroying the reputation of everyone who issued even the most mild criticism of them and then just dropping the story completely.

Yeah, I cannot either.

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« Reply #6827 on: May 27, 2018, 04:16:33 PM »
OK I remembered wrong. I remember wrong because, I always also hear the WHATABOUTISM in your texts.

So its MY fault that YOU were wrong? Youre too much.

I always hear ILOVECOMMUNISM in your texts.


You better stop now with this !!! You obviously don't know where to stop.
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« Reply #6828 on: May 27, 2018, 04:29:06 PM »
In other news, we are seeing why people might turn out to vote for Trump again in 2020 due to the stupidity and attempt to insult the audience's intelligence with another manipulative fake news story by the mainstream media.

Donald Trump calls MS-13 "animals" and the democratic platform and the mainstream media quickly dig their own grave by doing the unthinkable; defend MS-13.

House Minority Leader, Nancy Pelosi!!!! herself went on a tirade defending MS-13 and trying to come across as a holier than thou person who cares about human life.

CBS, AP, New York Times, CNN, NBC, Washington Post, etc, all run stories with headlines suggesting Trump called illegal immigrants animals and they leave out the part that he was talking about MS-13. (But.... but.... but.... they made corrections!)

The village idiots all believe it and think this is another reason why Trump is a racist because he just called ALL ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS "ANIMALS."

Smart people know he is a racist, no matter about who he talks and did talk in the past. He despise everyone who is not pro him. Only the dumbest of the dumbest people on earth that are also happen to be his butt hole enhancer- voters "believe different", I can't  say "think different", they miss IQ to be able thinking.
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« Reply #6829 on: May 28, 2018, 03:21:24 PM »
In other news, we are seeing why people might turn out to vote for Trump again in 2020 due to the stupidity and attempt to insult the audience's intelligence with another manipulative fake news story by the mainstream media.

Donald Trump calls MS-13 "animals" and the democratic platform and the mainstream media quickly dig their own grave by doing the unthinkable; defend MS-13.

House Minority Leader, Nancy Pelosi!!!! herself went on a tirade defending MS-13 and trying to come across as a holier than thou person who cares about human life.

CBS, AP, New York Times, CNN, NBC, Washington Post, etc, all run stories with headlines suggesting Trump called illegal immigrants animals and they leave out the part that he was talking about MS-13. (But.... but.... but.... they made corrections!)

The village idiots all believe it and think this is another reason why Trump is a racist because he just called ALL ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS "ANIMALS."

Hmmm, how do I respond to this while completely ignoring what the mainstream media did? How do I respond to this without acknowledging that it was indeed an attempt to manipulate people by my favorite media outlets that I love and how do I find a way to still insult half a country and sound very smart at the same time? *snaps fingers* Ha! I've got it!:

Smart people know he is a racist, no matter about who he talks and did talk in the past. He despise everyone who is not pro him. Only the dumbest of the dumbest people on earth that are also happen to be his butt hole enhancer- voters "believe different", I can't  say "think different", they miss IQ to be able thinking.
Imagine if Obama, Kamala, or Biden survived two assassination attempts and the media not publicly destroying the reputation of everyone who issued even the most mild criticism of them and then just dropping the story completely.

Yeah, I cannot either.

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« Reply #6830 on: May 29, 2018, 12:23:23 PM »
In other news, we are seeing why people might turn out to vote for Trump again in 2020 due to the stupidity and attempt to insult the audience's intelligence with another manipulative fake news story by the mainstream media.

Donald Trump calls MS-13 "animals" and the democratic platform and the mainstream media quickly dig their own grave by doing the unthinkable; defend MS-13.

House Minority Leader, Nancy Pelosi!!!! herself went on a tirade defending MS-13 and trying to come across as a holier than thou person who cares about human life.

CBS, AP, New York Times, CNN, NBC, Washington Post, etc, all run stories with headlines suggesting Trump called illegal immigrants animals and they leave out the part that he was talking about MS-13. (But.... but.... but.... they made corrections!)

The village idiots all believe it and think this is another reason why Trump is a racist because he just called ALL ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS "ANIMALS."

Hmmm, how do I respond to this while completely ignoring what the mainstream media did? How do I respond to this without acknowledging that it was indeed an attempt to manipulate people by my favorite media outlets that I love and how do I find a way to still insult half a country and sound very smart at the same time? *snaps fingers* Ha! I've got it!:

Smart people know he is a racist, no matter about who he talks and did talk in the past. He despise everyone who is not pro him. Only the dumbest of the dumbest people on earth that are also happen to be his butt hole enhancer- voters "believe different", I can't  say "think different", they miss IQ to be able thinking.

Sounds like you despise smart people that bring money to a country and make it successful.

I for myself decided some time ago based on my experience that the error rate or fake news rate or propaganda rate or illiterate of democracy established classical media is at a magnitude (while not sure of it, I hope you know what a magnitude is!) of 1 or 2 more reliable than far right wing extremist terrorist Nazi news sources, or their blogs or any articles from them. Best example is their leader Trumpelstilsken, he only insults, spreads BS without data backing up, invents fake news, he is full with shit of idiology ...

I want to discuss their behaviour. Their attempt is to insult 100 % of the people to sell them idiocy, why should I be concerned calling 25,5% of the people idiots and the dumbest people on earth when they actually are. They are not normal! I asumed you didn't voted for Trumpelstilsken, so you shouldn't be affected by me calling idiots idiots and Nazis Nazis. RIGHT?

Best example of Trumpelstilsken goon and butt hole enhancing idiot voter: Roseanne Barr.

P.s.: and in fact that you say I am insulting 50% is once again fake news. It is far less. Trumpelstilsken lost the popular vote with 46,4%. Your fake news debunk no. 1. Then  46,9% didn't  even go voting, so 25,5 % are the dumbest of the dumbest on earth. Again you better stay with facts rather than your Trumpelstilken-like fantasy facts. It is really difficult to take you serious and try a discussion. Maybe some more political correctness by you is required that you get discussion partners that can take you serious.
It is the same why I can't take discussion serious coming from the right in Germany. Even for me as someone in the political middle of the democratic society these discussions are so far away from the daily experienced facts that I could take them serious.
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« Reply #6831 on: May 29, 2018, 10:11:36 PM »
A former NSA analyst and officer tells what it was that started the investigations into Trump:

"Let me put my cards on the table: The counterintelligence investigation of Donald Trump was kicked off by not one, not two, but multiple SIGINT reports which set off alarm bells inside our Intelligence Community. This has been publicly known, in a general way, for some time. A little over a year ago, the Guardian reported, based on multiple intelligence sources, that the lead was taken by Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ – Britain’s NSA), which “first became aware in late 2015 of suspicious ‘interactions’ between figures connected to Trump and known or suspected Russian agents, a source close to UK intelligence said. This intelligence was passed to the U.S. as part of a routine exchange of information.”

http://observer.com/2018/05/what-did-the-fbi-do-in-2016-about-russian-connections-to-donald-trump/

TL;DR - Since at least as far back as 2015, routine surveillance of Russian intelligence assets revealed a VERY suspicious amount of conversations about Trump, which "painted an indelible picture of a compromised GOP nominee."
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« Reply #6832 on: May 30, 2018, 02:06:34 AM »
I don't understand how people can support this Nazi Trumpelstilsken. By supporting him or trying to find non-exsistent positive aspects they become Nazi animals themselves.
Why I write this? Since October 2017 by Trumpelstilskens initiative they are separating children (700 by now) a hundred below 4 years from their parents. The parents are sent back over the boarder, the children also get stored away in private prisons, some even in prison cells and even in cages. This is what jurists/lawyers say.

Historians compare this with the Nazis under Adolf Hitler.

Trumpelstilsken supporters are animals!
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« Reply #6833 on: May 30, 2018, 02:34:42 AM »
Why I write this? Since October 2017 by Trumpelstilskens initiative they are separating children (700 by now) a hundred below 4 years from their parents. The parents are sent back over the boarder, the children also get stored away in private prisons, some even in prison cells and even in cages. This is what jurists/lawyers say.
To be fair, he is expanding the policy that President Obama started; it is the one policy of President Obama that he actually praised.

But it's still a horrific thing to do...and is straight from Putin's playbook. 1400 chi1dren and counting have been "lost" in this way or, to quote John Kelly, "The children will be taken care of — put into foster care or whatever."

This is not normal.
AOC, HC, TW, BO, KH: FU. FUATH. 100x.

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« Reply #6834 on: May 30, 2018, 02:50:24 AM »
So now her rebooted show has been canceled, her talent agency has kicked her off their roster, and all re-runs of her original TV show have been taken off the air. It's so bad that even Shep Smith outright called her a racist. If only she had listened to the advice that her friend Bill Maher had given her, perhaps her (current) fall from grace wouldn't have been so hard.

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"For many Americans, Roseanne Barr is “Roseanne,” star of the eponymous sitcom that ran from 1988 to 1997, and again in 2017. But Roseanne Barr is not her character — a quick-witted everymom. In real life and, more noticeably, on Twitter, she’s a conspiracy theory-loving, racist every-troll.

On Tuesday, her trolling came to a head when ABC canceled her show after she likened Barack Obama’s top adviser Valerie Jarrett (who is black) to an ape — a slur so extreme even Fox News called it racist.

This was not a first offense for Barr on Twitter (or in real life). Over the years, her language and ideas have weaved through all kinds of dark and bizarre territory. It’s not exactly consistent, either; it swings across the political spectrum, unified only by its extremity. She promoted Pizzagate. She believes 9/11 was an inside job. She flags vaccine conspiracy theories. She called Israel a “Nazi state” in 2009 and promoted a Holocaust-denying musician in 2013. Then she turned around and became a massive supporter of Israel (and a rabid opponent of the Boycott, Divest, and Sanctions movement).

All of this she fired off to her half a million followers on Twitter, many eager to retweet her (including the president’s son).

There have long been two Roseannes: one the working-class hero of Roseanne who said what needed to be said but always had a heart of gold; the other, on Twitter, a raving conspiracy theorist with a political history that stretches from the furthest left to the furthest right..."

AOC, HC, TW, BO, KH: FU. FUATH. 100x.

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« Reply #6835 on: May 30, 2018, 09:53:40 AM »
Why I write this? Since October 2017 by Trumpelstilskens initiative they are separating children (700 by now) a hundred below 4 years from their parents. The parents are sent back over the boarder, the children also get stored away in private prisons, some even in prison cells and even in cages. This is what jurists/lawyers say.
To be fair, he is expanding the policy that President Obama started; it is the one policy of President Obama that he actually praised.

But it's still a horrific thing to do...and is straight from Putin's playbook. 1400 chi1dren and counting have been "lost" in this way or, to quote John Kelly, "The children will be taken care of — put into foster care or whatever."

This is not normal.

What you have done admitting something Obama did wrong I have not seen in a wide range by the Trumpelstilsken animals of GOP doing the same with Trumpelstilskens decisions. What is wrong with them?

Edit: btw. this policy existed since G.W. Bush. The difference was that these two former presidents did let the US boarder control do all the interpretation how to do it. Trumpelstilsken is the one who dreams of totalitarian behavior in boarder control to solve immigration, the behavior historians compare with GESTAPO Nazi behavior.
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« Reply #6836 on: May 30, 2018, 01:58:21 PM »
Apropos Roseanne Barr.
A German news reporter analyzes the situation that ABC (and other democratic medias) did a mistake by trying to offer acceptance (in the ABC heartland strategy) to far right wing extremist Nazi terrorists trying to get them back in democracy structures was a naive mistake without requesting from these far right wing extremist Nazi terrorists to change their behaviors. Now with Roseanne Barr this strategy failed and the discussion needs to end and instead change has to be demanded.

A reason why I don't accept this WHATABOUTISM and anti-political correctness movements of far right wing extremist Nazi terrorists. Just another form to not wanting to change. I am convinced only law and order helps against far right wing extremist Nazi terrorists!
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« Reply #6837 on: May 30, 2018, 03:54:25 PM »
on the issue of separating children from the parents, is that Obama and Bush did to some and evaluated the situation for the safety of the children whereas Trump is doing to all of them to the extent that bus are specially made for this order.
"Yesterday, Reince Priebus called this whole story a 'nothing burger,'" he said. "Well these emails have turned it into an all-you-can-prosecute buffet."

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« Reply #6838 on: May 30, 2018, 06:02:39 PM »
on the issue of separating children from the parents, is that Obama and Bush did to some and evaluated the situation for the safety of the children whereas Trump is doing to all of them to the extent that bus are specially made for this order.

I have to say I don't trust that picture. It more looks like the bus used for an excursion of a nursery school / day nursery. I somehow doubt the border control touring around 24 children. These seats are up to 18 kg or 3 years maximum 4 years age.
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« Reply #6839 on: May 30, 2018, 08:06:48 PM »
The thing is, previous administrations downplayed it, presumably out of embarrassment. El Presidente is bragging about it in the hopes that it will "scare" people away from trying to come to the US....

And further evidence of his lack of humanity empathy decency (can't find the right word):

1833 deaths attributed to Hurricane Katrina
2411 total US combat deaths in Afghanistan
2977 deaths as a result of 9/11 attacks
4424 total US combat deaths in Iraq War
4645 deaths in Puerto Rico attributed to Hurricane Maria (minimum - the estimate covers deaths up to the end of 2017)

This is not merely people killed during the hurricane, but all the people who died from lack of medical care or outright abandonment.

The official report: http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMsa1803972

http://www.vox.com/2018/5/30/17407750/puerto-rico-maria-death-toll

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Unlike his predecessor, Trump had the good fortune to inherit a stable and improving economic situation — circumstances under which competent, conventional policymaking from the Federal Reserve has produced decent outcomes. There have been no domestic terrorist attacks or major wars, and the baseline conditions of peace and prosperity are something we should all be thankful for.

But where Trump has been tested, he’s failed utterly.

In the diplomatic crisis between Qatar and the United Arab Emirates, Trump’s decision-making (such as it is) seems to have been driven largely by the personal financial interests of his various corrupt associates. On Iran, he’s left the United States isolated while gaining nothing. On Korea, he’s focused on the atmospherics of a potential summit with Kim Jong Un while leaving US allies baffled as to who is making decisions or why. The drug overdose problem appears to have gotten even worse in 2017 (final data is not yet available) and shows no sign of abating in 2018.

The carnage in Puerto Rico is the most severe manifestation of Trump’s basic unfitness for the job he currently occupies, but it’s far from the only one. And the focus on his various antics has an unfortunate tendency to detract from the basic reality that he doesn’t put in the time or the work to solve problems, when really that’s the core of the issue. If you put a telegenic demagogue in office, you will get some choice moments of televised demagoguery. You won’t get an adequate response to a hurricane, and that means you will get a sky-high death toll. The rest of us can only hope our luck holds up.
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