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Re: Breast Reduction -- Inevitable?
« Reply #30 on: March 01, 2013, 07:56:43 AM »
So she's going off the word of just one person. Before you get anyone cutting into your body, it behooves you to get more than just one opinion.


It seems her mind is made up and nothing will change it. Not a good way to proceed in a hazardous optional procedure ( all operations are hazardous ) with life altering concequences. It seems reckless to me. My $0.02.  :(

Re: Breast Reduction -- Inevitable?
« Reply #31 on: March 04, 2013, 08:58:58 AM »
Points well taken, gentlemen.

I predict the conversation with my gf will go something like,

"Don't you think you should consult with an orthopedic surgeon? And by the way, why did you not talk with the surgeon we saw in AZ? He would've been happy to discuss your situation with you."

"Well, my GP referred me to a physiatrist, who treated me and as you will recall gave me spinal injections for pain (twice). I think it's his qualified opinion that there is a relationship between my pain and the weight of my breasts. If he thought it was necessary, he would have referred me to an orthopedic surgeon . . . as far as the doctor from Germany and his wife, I did not want to discuss my private, personal business with a stranger I just met, in a social setting, when I have professionals I trust whom I have already consulted."

I think she'll hang her hat on the physiatrist.  


Then this just shows her ignorance of medical matters.  GPs know nothing of back issues, nor do they even know what specialist to send you to for them. This is pretty common knowledge to anyone who has ever had a back issue.  The person I knew with back issues had it so bad they actually developed dropped foot, which is paralysis of the foot.  Thier GP sent them to a living with pain specialist.  Which is exactly what a physiatrist is.  They are not qualified to diagnos the casue of a back issue, or a treatment for curing it.  Their specialty is to devise a treatment to minimize the daily pain of a chronic condition that has already been diagnosed as untreatable.

Look it up.  Does this sound like her GP sent her to the proper specialist for an initial diagnosis for a back issue?

After my friend screwed around with the physiatrist's useless advice for a year, they finally saw a neurologist.  After they had back surgery, they were left with perminent numbness in their foot, due to nerve damage.  The neurologist told them that if they had gotten the surgery earlier this could have been avoided.

Did she even research what a physiatrist specialized in, and what they tend to treat and how?  Did she do any research at all to make sure her GP was using the proper diagnostic options?  Did she bother to make any effort at all to take responsibility for her own health and actively engage in her treatment?  Or was she just willing to let her unqualified GP tell her what to do and blindly do what she is told without any effort to educate herself on her own condition and options?

Sounds like the latter.  And if she is **86** to listen to reason, or any common sense, then she deserves what ever lack of success and further complications befall her.  I'm sorry, I just can't talk about this anymore, it angers me to no end.

This issue trancsends the focus of this forum.  This is not about stopping a breast reduction.
This is about a person who lives in a country with access to the best medical treatment options in the wolrd, and all it takes is a little research and engagement in the process on the part of the patient.  Yet here is someone who not only willfully refuses to do so, but also willfully refuses to listen to any advice to do so, and thus is most likely to not get the proper treatment options for her condition, not solving her problem.
Yet there are people in places around the world, with medical issues who have done all the research, know exactly what Doctors and treatment options they need, yet have access to none of them, leaving them to suffer.
She even lucked into free advice from exactly one of the specialists she should have seen in the first place, and she refused that.

I'm sorry, I am at the point where I have no sympathy for her anymore.
I do feel sorry for you to have to watch the equivalent of someone you love purposfully banging their head into a brick wall over and over again, without listening to reason.






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Re: Breast Reduction -- Inevitable?
« Reply #32 on: March 10, 2013, 08:42:54 AM »
a hazardous optional procedure ( all operations are hazardous )
Indeed.  Hey Insightful - does she put much stock into pop culture?  Because Kanye West's mother, Donda West, died in 2007 during a breast reduction procedure (they were trying to do a tummy tuck the same day which definitely complicated things). 

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Re: Breast Reduction -- Inevitable?
« Reply #33 on: April 20, 2013, 04:55:44 PM »
Curious to know how the surgery worked out. (I think we're past the surgery date already...?)

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Re: Breast Reduction -- Inevitable?
« Reply #34 on: July 17, 2013, 03:26:15 AM »
My fellow admirers, I write after a long interlude, and rereading your contributions, smile at the memory of your compassion, thoughtfulness and good advice. Please forgive my tardy reply. The vicissitudes of life and my reluctance to revisit this sad episode in detail contributed to my hibernation for a while.

Let us return now to where we left off.

I did learn that my girlfriend’s attempts to cover her ample breasts were not so much because she was ashamed or embarrassed by them but reflected her rather conservative upbringing. Not so unusual story -- country girl raised on a farm, devoted churchgoing mother and older sisters. You’ll recall my unsuccessful efforts to get her to agree to one last photo shoot in a bathing suit. I mentioned my dismay at her remark, “I don’t like the way I look in a bathing suit.” I (reasonably) interpreted that to mean, “I don’t like how my big boobs look in a bathing suit, but she insisted no, it’s her conservative background and accordingly she’s uncomfortable with so much flesh showing, regardless of the size of her boobs.

So as I mentioned previously we had a wonderful overseas trip in December and then a short trip to AZ in February, which turned out to be her “last hurrah” (so to speak) as a 36N-sized bra wearer. (Actually her 36N bras were rather snug, so she probably needed an “O” cup, but as you know N is the end of the alphabet -- so far -- for non-custom made bras.)

Ultimately my gf was **86** to postpone the surgery despite my oft-stated belief that she had not exhausted non-surgical options and my fear of complications and the risks involved. There was a brief moment of hope during a candid conversation we had over dinner three nights before the scheduled surgery; I ran down the list of experts she had seen and not seen. She asked about the differences between a physiatrist and orthopedist and others and conceded that maybe there were more experts she could see, but she truly believed the plastic surgeon that told her the reduction in breast weight would relieve her pain. And what if he was wrong, I asked? Well, she said she’d try other options then!

The day before the surgery she asked me to take “before” pictures of her (to my surprise, considering the aforementioned “conservative" outlook) and I took some again in the hospital on the day of the surgery, along with the surgeon. (Believe me she looked magnificent, as fine as any model we worship here.) The surgery lasted about 3 hours and “went well,” the doc told me afterward while she was in recovery, and reassured me “they’re still big, as you like them.”  He told me he removed about 1200 cc’s (that’s 2.5 pounds) from each breast.

In the days and weeks that followed I was chief pain medication dispenser, drainage changer (a drain dangled from the bottom of each breast and I had to place a plastic cup, measure and drain fluids twice a day for about ten days), cook and overall nursemaid.

It’s now four months later and I must report some odd comments (all hers). First one just days before the surgery (right after we met with the doc): “Your inability to accept want I want to do with my body is . . . really troubling.” Next about a month after the surgery: “Frankly,” she said, “I was surprised how good and attentive you were (I was great, actually) considering how much you were against the surgery.” Geez, did she really expect me to abandon her because she had the surgery? (I dunno; perhaps another, shallower fella would have. Love indeed makes fools of us all.) I said to her, "Wouldn't you do the same for me?" Her reply, "I hope so." Hmm.

About a month ago: “Do you know how much I miss having large breasts? Not. At. All.” (Emphasis not added.) Why? “They were a burden.” “Even before you started having pain (2.5 years prior to the surgery)? “Yes.” No further elaboration. And here’s a recent gem: “If I weren’t such a strong-willed person, I’d never have gone for a breast reduction because of you.” Regarding scarring. “I don’t really care about scarring, so that’s why I’m not using any anti-scarring cream.”

Here’s an interesting topic. Any breast play in bed? Nope. Her boobs are off limits. Can’t even touch ‘em. “You had them for 9 years; that’s enough.” (We started dating 9 years ago.) What?! I offered, well, it’s only been a few months and you’re still recovering. Are you saying they’re off limits indefinitely? “We’ll see.” Geez.

By the way, the doc took extra care to make sure the nipples remained intact. (I insisted; frankly, I think my gf was indifferent about the possible loss of nipple sensation.) She now has sensitivity in only one of them, she says. But she said the doc told her his wife, who also had BR surgery (presumably he did not do it) had no nipple sensation for two years. And last but not least, “I can’t imagine you sucking on them like you used to.” (I was quite energetic in my efforts, and apparently it was not often a turn-on for her; she once said it reminded her of breast-feeding her children. However I do recall on occasion her being on top of me and when I’d not paid attention to her “girls,” she’d shove one in my mouth.)

Finally, a word about the reduced appearance. They look . . . unfamiliar. They’re on the small side (too small, in my opinion, not that that counts . . .) and seem rather “perky.” She’s not bought any new bras (except one size “Large” exercise bra) and instead wears her old 36G and 36H bras.  (So I guess that’s her new size but somehow they seem smaller than G cups to me.) Ironically, one of the comments that she really fumed about was my suggestion to the doc that he try to make her something in the ballpark of a 36G as that seemed to be her size for a long while before she developed back pain in the fall of 2010. “Will you please let the doctor decide? That’s what I want.” Incidentally all her old (well, relatively recently acquired 38M and 36N) bras went into a large plastic bag in the back of her closet.

She does have something called “dog ears” along her incision lines. (This is a “characteristic puckering of the skin that can occur after surgical wound closure . . . In body contouring where large amounts of tissue are excised, they are not rare.”) My gf figures he was concentrating on saving the nipples and also probably had another, "greener" doc do the closing. He told her to come back in the Fall and he’ll fix them under local anesthesia.

And that’s about it. Sorry I’ve written a book but I guess I had a lot to get off my chest (pardon the pun). Thanks for listening. Oh – for those that are wondering – my girlfriend reports no back pain now.
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Re: Breast Reduction -- Inevitable?
« Reply #35 on: July 17, 2013, 04:54:39 AM »
Thanks for listening. Oh – for those that are wondering – my girlfriend reports no back pain now.


Ah well, at least there's that.

Thanks for the update. Hang in there, brother.
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Re: Breast Reduction -- Inevitable?
« Reply #36 on: July 17, 2013, 05:15:03 AM »
“Do you know how much I miss having large breasts? Not. At. All.”... “They were a burden.”
In a way, this brings me comfort and resolution to the story.  If she is happy, we should all be happy.  Thank you for all that you shared about this!  You chose a great moniker when you selected Insightful!

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Re: Breast Reduction -- Inevitable?
« Reply #37 on: July 24, 2014, 02:11:16 PM »
I'm still glad she posts pix after her reduction, and she's still hot and all... but before her reduction Keratosis was pop-worthy in the extreme.

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Re: Breast Reduction -- Inevitable?
« Reply #38 on: July 26, 2014, 02:56:22 PM »
I'm still glad she posts pix after her reduction, and she's still hot and all... but before her reduction Keratosis was pop-worthy in the extreme.
I also appreciate that she is willing to post images of the post operation results.
It puts the whole process into better perspective.
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Re: Breast Reduction -- Inevitable?
« Reply #39 on: August 02, 2014, 11:13:11 PM »
It happens. Sometimes it's really difficult to see why. I just think some gals imagine that smaller/higher breasts with large scars are somehow preferable to larger/lower breasts that are scarless. Go figure.

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Re: Breast Reduction -- Inevitable?
« Reply #40 on: August 04, 2014, 02:56:56 PM »
An amateur I presume. Still exciting, but mainly because she's so cute to start with. I have no idea what she looked like before the reduction surgery, but I imagine like some drug-induced wet dream. ;)

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Re: Breast Reduction -- Inevitable?
« Reply #41 on: August 12, 2014, 05:20:03 PM »
At least this unidentified model's surgeon did a decent job re: nipple placement, shape and symmetry.

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Re: Breast Reduction -- Inevitable?
« Reply #42 on: August 24, 2014, 05:27:17 PM »
Codi Bryant may have had implants put in afterwards, but the scarring would suggest that she had a reduction before that.

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Re: Breast Reduction -- Inevitable?
« Reply #43 on: September 27, 2014, 02:59:47 PM »
Samantha Jay aka Shyloh from Cosmid. :(

Before reduction (collage hotlink)


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After reduction (attachment at bottom of this post)

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Re: Breast Reduction -- Inevitable?
« Reply #44 on: September 27, 2014, 03:52:25 PM »

I would posit that the focus is misplaced.

Big breasts, of themselves, are not inherently bad.
Just consider - they are here due to some level of natural selection.
Look at all the positive sociological attention wrapped around them.
And hey, we are MAMMALS, right?

Instead of refining breast reduction techniques, medical science should instead work on producing reasonable and attainable back and shoulder strengthening and improvement.

Eh?

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