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Re: Hempfest 2013
« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2013, 06:19:50 PM »
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Re: Hempfest 2013
« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2013, 05:12:19 PM »
Setting up a system for regulating the "manufacture", distribution, and sale of ganja and ganja products in a year has proven to be problematic. Consider, for example, the variety of conflicting laws across the United States regarding alcoholic beverages. Three counties tried to opt out of the regulatory scheme, at which point the DoJ demonstrated absolutely no interest in prosecuting the pot smokers of Yakima County.

There are numerous surprises and complications which have not been resolved. For example, both Colorado and Washington have assigned the regluation of ganja to their liquor control authorities, which makes sense. However, they have a history of operating under the 21st Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, which leaves the regulation of alcoholic beverages entirely to the states (It's why in some states titty bars are prohibited from serving booze--States can ban First Amendment protected activities from certain buildings if the buildings serve loquor.) Part of the agreement the DoJ made with Washington and Colorado was that the states would actively limit distribution to within their boundaries. But there is a long history of cases which prohibit limitations on interstate commerce, except for the 21st Amendment. One possible resolution is for the feds to classify ganja as an "alcoholic beverage", which makes a lot more sense than its present classification as a "Schedule I narcotic".
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Re: Hempfest 2013
« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2013, 11:28:54 PM »
Pedonbio, since you are a lawyer perhaps you can tell us about the liability of marijuana in Washington state. If for example, I grow some weed and sell it to my next door neighbor and he gets intoxicated to the point where, as he climbs onto his car and he accidentally runs over a pedestrian, can you be held liable for selling him the product ? Unfortunately there will always be those who abuse stuff, like alcohol, which can get a third party in trouble for selling / serving the abuser. Can people get in trouble for marijuana in Washington state or are there protections for those that sell / supply the stuff ? I think one thing that could spoil the party would be an enterprising trial lawyer looking to add lucre to his estate. Lawsuits can destroy or make life difficult for business and the legalization / decriminalizing of marijuana is creating a nascent industry / business . Your thoughts on the matter.  ???

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Re: Hempfest 2013
« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2013, 04:34:13 AM »
Good questions, sol.

Short answer is that I don't have a clue. The law differs wildly from state to state. Washington allows such suits, but the last suit to get any attention was about 20 years ago, and the state supreme court adopted the "falling down **92**" standard for overserving. My best guess is that they would say the same about marijuana. Also, most folks aren't visibly stoned when they buy it; ironically, one of the places you can't smoke is where you buy it.

My first impulse is to say something about ganja "overdoses", because the most common symptom is that the user goes to **82**.
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Re: Hempfest 2013
« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2013, 04:43:16 PM »
The state of Washington has been using Bank of America for years and has a contract with BofA that runs through next June.

Bank of America hasn’t previously had a problem accepting tax revenue that included taxes from medical marijuana businesses, but that money is all lumped in with other tax revenue and collectors could have — if pressed — pleaded ignorance about the source of the money.

Starting in November, the state will begin collecting licensing fees from businesses applying to grow and sell marijuana. It will be significantly more difficult for the state to pretend that it’s not bringing in potentially hundreds of millions of dollars each year related to a product that is still considered an illegal drug by the federal government.

Some officials in Washington state are worried that blending revenue from pot-based businesses will taint the billions of dollars the state puts in the bank. The state’s revenue forecasters are not including marijuana revenue in their projections until state regulators gets assurances from Washington, D.C., that there won’t be a problem with putting this money in a federally insured bank like BofA.
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Re: Hempfest 2013
« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2013, 08:13:55 PM »
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Re: Hempfest 2013
« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2013, 05:10:25 AM »
The state of Washington has been using Bank of America for years and has a contract with BofA that runs through next June.

Bank of America hasn’t previously had a problem accepting tax revenue that included taxes from medical marijuana businesses, but that money is all lumped in with other tax revenue and collectors could have — if pressed — pleaded ignorance about the source of the money.

Starting in November, the state will begin collecting licensing fees from businesses applying to grow and sell marijuana. It will be significantly more difficult for the state to pretend that it’s not bringing in potentially hundreds of millions of dollars each year related to a product that is still considered an illegal drug by the federal government.

Some officials in Washington state are worried that blending revenue from pot-based businesses will taint the billions of dollars the state puts in the bank. The state’s revenue forecasters are not including marijuana revenue in their projections until state regulators gets assurances from Washington, D.C., that there won’t be a problem with putting this money in a federally insured bank like BofA.


Last Friday the BoA announced that it will continue to accept all tax deposits, including tax revenue for marijuana licensing and the value-added tax applied to the growing, packaging, and sales.

The regional BoA office also, quite surprizingly, stated that they will deal with regular business accounts of duly licensed ganja dealers. Several dealers are waiting for further explanation and/or assurances.

In a related development, the state has agreed to comply with federal regulations peripheral to the trade. That includes zoning ganja stores so that they are at least 1,000 feet (~310 meters) from all schools. That leaves very few areas in Seattle; one of these is the intersection of 23rd and Union streets. A real estate developer has bought up most of the corner and has applied for permits to build a "Little Amsterdam". For anyone who knows Seattle, that will be a serious reduction in the "hardness" of the drugs sold on that corner.
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Re: Hempfest 2013
« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2013, 04:22:18 AM »
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Re: Hempfest 2013
« Reply #23 on: October 07, 2013, 07:47:50 PM »
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Re: Hempfest 2013
« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2013, 09:17:50 PM »
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Re: Hempfest 2013
« Reply #25 on: October 14, 2013, 10:39:13 AM »
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Re: Hempfest 2013
« Reply #26 on: October 17, 2013, 10:44:38 AM »
Now that Colorado and Washington have legalized marijuana for recreational use, businesses are clamoring to get a piece of the action, and coming up with some entertaining ways to do it. For example, a pot vending machine already exists for medical use, so why not introduce the same kind of devices for anyone in those states looking to buy some legal bud? One company is working on adapting its vending machines for just that purpose.

The founder of the company says he’s working on tweaking his business to make sure the machines would comply with each state’s laws. The machines currently require fingerprint identification to ensure that a patient really does have a medical marijuana prescription and isn’t just trying to score on the sly, reports NBC News.

It might not happen tomorrow or next week, but the company seems confident that eventually, buying pot from a machine just like you would a candy bar will be a reality.
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Re: Hempfest 2013
« Reply #28 on: November 27, 2013, 02:08:01 PM »
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Re: Hempfest 2013
« Reply #29 on: December 05, 2013, 04:41:21 AM »
ABC News did a worthless feature on the need for processing and certification of ganja. Aside from the EEK! GERMS!! aspect, guess who they didn't bother to interview? How about anybody in any state who is working on processing and certification...?

gma.yahoo.com/marijuana-toke-mold-insects-manure-112248829--abc-news-health.html
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