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Re: A CLEAR WINNER in the BEA MORPH CONTEST November 2016
« Reply #45 on: November 28, 2016, 05:38:01 AM »
Thank You for congratulations, I am liking this morph much too.

For next theme, some sports theme, may be something from favourit national sports: can be baseball for americans, icehockey for canadians, football (soccer) for most countries, any others?  Please advice.

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Prof Morearty

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Re: A CLEAR WINNER in the BEA MORPH CONTEST November 2016
« Reply #46 on: November 29, 2016, 08:31:09 AM »
Thank You for congratulations, I am liking this morph much too.

For next theme, some sports theme, may be something from favourit national sports: can be baseball for americans, icehockey for canadians, football (soccer) for most countries, any others?  Please advice.

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I think I see where you're going here, Captain: sport alone is much too broad, so you're limiting it to sports that are closely associated with a nation, or several nations: to a "national pastime" as Americans refer to baseball.  You've named three possibilities; another that might qualify could be rugby (New Zealand) and perhaps cricket for some nations of the Indian subcontinent or the West Indies.  A mind-boggling possibility would be sumo wrestlers, can you imagine a morph of that? :o 8)
Excluded would be sports that might be popular, but are not considered the national sport of any country, e.g. basketball, tennis, volleyball: even though these might be interesting as morph material, they would not qualify for this theme.
Of course, the nationality of the models would not be a consideration.
All that sound right to you? Any qualifications or reservations? Anyone else want to comment?

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solvegas

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Re: WINNER of the MORPH CONTEST - and PROPOSAL for DECEMBER
« Reply #47 on: November 29, 2016, 08:51:17 AM »
Thank You for congratulations, I am liking this morph much too.

For next theme, some sports theme, may be something from favourit national sports: can be baseball for americans, icehockey for canadians, football (soccer) for most countries, any others?  Please advice.

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I think I see where you're going here, Captain: sport alone is much too broad, so you're limiting it to sports that are closely associated with a nation, or several nations: to a "national pastime" as Americans refer to baseball.  You've named three possibilities; another that might qualify could be rugby (New Zealand) and perhaps cricket for some nations of the Indian subcontinent or the West Indies.  A mind-boggling possibility would be sumo wrestlers, can you imagine a morph of that? :o 8)
Excluded would be sports that might be popular, but are not considered the national sport of any country, e.g. basketball, tennis, volleyball: even though these might be interesting as morph material, they would not qualify for this theme.
Of course, the nationality of the models would not be a consideration.
All that sound right to you? Any qualifications or reservations? Anyone else want to comment?

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I disagree with excluding Basketball. The United States is different than most countries in that we have THREE distinct national sports. American Football, Baseball and Basketball. Basketball has been the most internationalized by far simply because of the three, it is the cheapest by far to stage. It requires a lot less equipment, simpler rules, smaller venues to play with and easier to play. But Basketball is a AMERICAN invention and it is definitely part of the American sports universe. Yes, it is now a global game but then Coca - Cola is also a global brand even though it is all  American. Basketball must be included.

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Re: WINNER of the MORPH CONTEST - and PROPOSAL for DECEMBER
« Reply #48 on: November 29, 2016, 04:54:49 PM »
solvegas, I appreciate your enthusiastic participation and welcome your comments, but it is not up to you to dictate what must be included.  I haven't heard yet what Captain Nemo thinks, but his idea was to narrow the frame somewhat, therefore the guiding principle of having not more than one sport per nation. Other countries are enthusiastic about more than one sport, such as Britain with cricket and rugby, but the most popular there is clearly football. For the USA this would clearly apply to baseball.  Yes, American football is also popular in the USA, as is basketball in many countries -- but baseball is the national pastime. 
Still, if some contributor wants me to consider an unlisted sport, like basketball, he is welcome to apply.  But I don't promise anything.
By the way, basketball was invented by a Canadian  8)

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solvegas

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Re: WINNER of the MORPH CONTEST - and PROPOSAL for DECEMBER
« Reply #49 on: November 29, 2016, 10:11:34 PM »
James Naismith was born in Canada BUT he was an American citizen when he invented basketball at a YMCA in Springfield, Massachusetts in 1891. His parents were Scots who moved to Canada in 1852. So you can say he was Scot - Canadian - American even though technically at the time Canada and Scotland were parts of the British Empire and not independent countries so he was British American. He  invented the game in the USA so it's American, so there.  ;D

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Re: WINNER of the MORPH CONTEST - and PROPOSAL for DECEMBER
« Reply #50 on: November 30, 2016, 04:59:00 PM »
[nitpick] Are you sure he was an American citizen in 1891?  He had only arrived in the US the year before, that's awfully fast.  But it may have been possible at that time, I don't know.  Have you got a source? [/nitpick] Anyway, yes, there's a good case for calling basketball an American invention.

However, Captain Nemo and I agree that in this contest only one sport can be allotted to one nation, so for the USA, it's baseball.

As of now, this is the list of appropriate sports for this contest:

  • baseball
  • ice hockey
  • football (in the international sense, i.e. soccer)
  • rugby
  • sumo