[Margaret]

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Wendy said she was measured as a 30JJ, but she likes to wear a 32J. Would that be why she seems to be overflowing in a lot of her bra pictures?

I suspect it’s a mixture of poor bra measuring/fitting, comfort and personal choice.

Poor bra measuring/fitting is the obvious one for me - most people think their measurement is their bra size. It rarely is. It usually requires trying a few bras out to find out which size (or which closest size) works best.

As for comfort - so many women make the mistake of thinking because a bra *doesn’t* feel tight and restrictive (ie. It’s nice and comfy) that the bra is the correct size/fit. Bras (especially back bands) are meant to be very snug and not loose - the cups are not meant to be loose and bouncy. A properly-fitted bra should feel light a tight hug around your body. The back band does all the hard work. I see women all the time with either loose back bands or cups one size too big, because “it feels nice on”. This is what I see when I see Wendy’s video trying on bras.

Lastly - and this is the part you can’t account for - models (especially porn/glamour models) tend to like to wear bras that push their boobs up and out, or, wear bras that are either too small or ill-fitting, because it makes their boobs look bigger and more prominent. It’s why when you see some of these women brakes, their boobs don’t look as big, or they sag a little, or they’re not perfect spheres.

I’d love to bra fit someone like Wendy - I guarantee she would look different (better!), and she would prefer the bras I fitted her for.

Personally, I find it hot when a lovely woman such as yourself would love to fit a gorgeous woman like Wendy. 

Dirty boy. I’m a professional 😉

[solvegas]

Personally, I find it hot when a lovely woman such as yourself would love to fit a gorgeous woman like Wendy. 

Dirty boy. I’m a professional 😉

Yes Ma'am, I is a pervert. 

[Scarface]

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Wendy said she was measured as a 30JJ, but she likes to wear a 32J. Would that be why she seems to be overflowing in a lot of her bra pictures?

I suspect it’s a mixture of poor bra measuring/fitting, comfort and personal choice.

Poor bra measuring/fitting is the obvious one for me - most people think their measurement is their bra size. It rarely is. It usually requires trying a few bras out to find out which size (or which closest size) works best.

As for comfort - so many women make the mistake of thinking because a bra *doesn’t* feel tight and restrictive (ie. It’s nice and comfy) that the bra is the correct size/fit. Bras (especially back bands) are meant to be very snug and not loose - the cups are not meant to be loose and bouncy. A properly-fitted bra should feel light a tight hug around your body. The back band does all the hard work. I see women all the time with either loose back bands or cups one size too big, because “it feels nice on”. This is what I see when I see Wendy’s video trying on bras.

Lastly - and this is the part you can’t account for - models (especially porn/glamour models) tend to like to wear bras that push their boobs up and out, or, wear bras that are either too small or ill-fitting, because it makes their boobs look bigger and more prominent. It’s why when you see some of these women brakes, their boobs don’t look as big, or they sag a little, or they’re not perfect spheres.

I’d love to bra fit someone like Wendy - I guarantee she would look different (better!), and she would prefer the bras I fitted her for.

I'd be curious to see the results of that fitting too.
I don't know if she ever viewed anything on her thread, but she did this picture for the BEA ( link below) after she worked with Pinup files I believe. Wendy, if you're lurking, get in touch and make it happen. LOL

https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=439673.msg10107844#msg10107844

[Hiram]

Okay - one from the archives.  Devon Daniels.

Score Magazine state she is:

• Height: 5'1"
• Measurements: 50-24-34

https://www.scoreclassics.com/classic-boob-models/Devon-Daniels/703/

I think those measurements are a little off.  I'm a bit unsure; but if you were to pin me down I'd say -34JJ.   

[Margaret]

Okay - one from the archives.  Devon Daniels.

Score Magazine state she is:

• Height: 5'1"
• Measurements: 50-24-34

https://www.scoreclassics.com/classic-boob-models/Devon-Daniels/703/

I think those measurements are a little off.  I'm a bit unsure; but if you were to pin me down I'd say -34JJ.

Those measurements seem odd. I’m assuming that’s the old fashioned “vitals” of bust-waist-hips. It reallly only gives me a 50” bust, and if she was a 24” waist, I’d assume roughly a 32” back (although back size and hips size often correlate, so she might be a 34 back, but she looks more like a 32 back). And, she’s low hanging, so when those boobs are in a bra, she’ll have more projection.

32J-34JJ would be there or thereabouts (although I would expect 34JJ to look slightly bigger).

[Margaret]

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Wendy said she was measured as a 30JJ, but she likes to wear a 32J. Would that be why she seems to be overflowing in a lot of her bra pictures?

I suspect it’s a mixture of poor bra measuring/fitting, comfort and personal choice.

Poor bra measuring/fitting is the obvious one for me - most people think their measurement is their bra size. It rarely is. It usually requires trying a few bras out to find out which size (or which closest size) works best.

As for comfort - so many women make the mistake of thinking because a bra *doesn’t* feel tight and restrictive (ie. It’s nice and comfy) that the bra is the correct size/fit. Bras (especially back bands) are meant to be very snug and not loose - the cups are not meant to be loose and bouncy. A properly-fitted bra should feel light a tight hug around your body. The back band does all the hard work. I see women all the time with either loose back bands or cups one size too big, because “it feels nice on”. This is what I see when I see Wendy’s video trying on bras.

Lastly - and this is the part you can’t account for - models (especially porn/glamour models) tend to like to wear bras that push their boobs up and out, or, wear bras that are either too small or ill-fitting, because it makes their boobs look bigger and more prominent. It’s why when you see some of these women brakes, their boobs don’t look as big, or they sag a little, or they’re not perfect spheres.

I’d love to bra fit someone like Wendy - I guarantee she would look different (better!), and she would prefer the bras I fitted her for.

I'd be curious to see the results of that fitting too.
I don't know if she ever viewed anything on her thread, but she did this picture for the BEA ( link below) after she worked with Pinup files I believe. Wendy, if you're lurking, get in touch and make it happen. LOL

https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=439673.msg10107844#msg10107844

Ha. An in-person fitting would be more beneficial, but I’d be happy if she got in touch with me by email and I could give her some pointers (that’s not a pun). However, she’s a strong, independent woman and she knows her own mind - and her own body. My opinion on her size is just that (and it’s definitely not a judgement of her, or her body - I’d never do that to another woman).

 

[Hiram]

Those measurements seem odd. I’m assuming that’s the old fashioned “vitals” of bust-waist-hips.

I assumed that's what they where. Do ladies not use them anymore?

although back size and hips size often correlate

Women have quite a few body shapes - pear, apple, hour.  Is that relationship the same for all types?

she’s low hanging, so when those boobs are in a bra, she’ll have more projection.

That is a good point - actually I don't think I have seen her in a bra - a quick web-search didn't show anything either. 

[Margaret]

Those measurements seem odd. I’m assuming that’s the old fashioned “vitals” of bust-waist-hips.

I assumed that's what they where. Do ladies not use them anymore?

although back size and hips size often correlate

Women have quite a few body shapes - pear, apple, hour.  Is that relationship the same for all types?

she’s low hanging, so when those boobs are in a bra, she’ll have more projection.

That is a good point - actually I don't think I have seen her in a bra - a quick web-search didn't show anything either.

I know my own vitals (40-24-34), assuming the first number is overbust (my other vitals are 32-24-34, where the first number is my back size - or 32FF-24-34) but people rarely use these for anything meaningful. I think they were another media invention - although, they did/do have some application in fashion for clothes sizes - but the problem (again) is that a 32FF-24-34 woman who is 5’5” is going to have a different bodyshape and size to a 32FF-24-34 woman who is 6’2”.

Hips-to-back-size is common, but not a given. As you say, women come in all shapes and sizes.

36-24-36 was always touted as “hourglass”, but it’s an old-fashioned notion.

[Hiram]

36-24-36 was always touted as “hourglass”, but it’s an old-fashioned notion.

You know we were talking about an up-to-date survey of women's bra sizes - I'd mentioned 3D scans.  Well it seem someone was ahead of me.

https://scholarsbank.uoregon.edu/xmlui/bitstream/handle/1794/25863/2022sokolowski.pdf

This paper (although not solely for busts) will probably have all the data relating to women's chest sizes.  It'll fascinating if the data is analysed.

Are there many women that confirm to 36-24-36 nowadays - to my eye that isn't a shape women seem to have now.  Although Ruben used to paint women that were a little plump -  so maybe they never really did.  I think your own remeasurements seem to me more common than 36-24-36.

 

[Margaret]

36-24-36 was always touted as “hourglass”, but it’s an old-fashioned notion.

You know we were talking about an up-to-date survey of women's bra sizes - I'd mentioned 3D scans.  Well it seem someone was ahead of me.

https://scholarsbank.uoregon.edu/xmlui/bitstream/handle/1794/25863/2022sokolowski.pdf

This paper (although not solely for busts) will probably have all the data relating to women's chest sizes.  It'll fascinating if the data is analysed.

Are there many women that confirm to 36-24-36 nowadays - to my eye that isn't a shape women seem to have now.  Although Ruben used to paint women that were a little plump -  so maybe they never really did.  I think your own remeasurements seem to me more common than 36-24-36.

Interesting. I wonder if there’s other university papers, perhaps concentrating on bra sizes?

[Hiram]

Is it just me - or are thigh high boots and suspenders completely wrong?  One or the other ladies please.

[Margaret]

Is it just me - or are thigh high boots and suspenders completely wrong?  One or the other ladies please.

I think the proper term for these boots is “over-knee”. Thigh-highs tend to be much longer and come up to and over your thighs. I don’t speak from experience here, as I’ve never owned a pair of either. Owned plenty of knee-high boots (my husband is nuts for them), and rarely wear suspenders/stockings. I can’t remember the last time I did, in fact. I don’t think I have a pair in my drawer (I’d have to check). I do have pairs of hold-ups though - difficult to find a pair that genuinely stay up, but when you do, they’re magical. Again, I don’t wear them often - can’t remember when I last did, outside of bedroom fun.

[Hiram]

Thigh-highs tend to be much longer and come up to and over your thighs.

They look a bit like my sisters riding boots.

Owned plenty of knee-high boots

The ones with the zip up the side?

and rarely wear suspenders/stockings. I can’t remember the last time I did

It'll be tights now I guess. I have some thermal underwear that remind me of women's tights.

Stocking and suspenders where invented in a time before modern materials. Having said that - wasn't Nylon the new wonder material in the 40's.  There were stocking before that, I have no idea what they were made before that.

[Hiram]

Right - back on track with these two lovely natural ladies. 

[Margaret]

Thigh-highs tend to be much longer and come up to and over your thighs.

They look a bit like my sisters riding boots.

Owned plenty of knee-high boots

The ones with the zip up the side?

and rarely wear suspenders/stockings. I can’t remember the last time I did

It'll be tights now I guess. I have some thermal underwear that remind me of women's tights.

Stocking and suspenders where invented in a time before modern materials. Having said that - wasn't Nylon the new wonder material in the 40's.  There were stocking before that, I have no idea what they were made before that.

They were made of silk hose.