[phonehome1]

I'm not sure if smaller (by our standards) makes it any easier to estimate sizing.

So, lets have a go...

Conflicted on this one - 38F

I don’t think she’s a 38 back. Much too slim for that. More like a 32 or 34 back. With that in mind, I’m thinking maybe a 32G or a 34F/FF.

(Bear in mind all my size estimations are UK sizes).

She is not "slim" not even close to what used to pass for slim, not in the US anyway. 

She has some tummy showing, would have  in the right jeans have more than a little "muffin top"

She looks like what we would have called a "big boned girl"  She is much to big torso wise to get into a 32 band size even 34 without REALLY stretching it out.  "Digging in" type stretching.

Based on the the bed in front of her and the mirror behind her I am guessing 5'7" give or take an inch and between 125 and maybe 140 LBS.   

Based on 50 years in the US of "Observation" and comparison,  buying bras for women, raking them bra shopping at the likes of Victoria Secret checking the tags after/while  taking them off based on traditional standards or "charts"  that were used by the likes of Playtex for years and years and not any "new" methods where seemingly any woman with anything more than just nipples is a D cup or bigger and tiny band sizes rule, if I had to guess  I would say she is a "vintage/classic" pick your term 38DD

[Shadowmuse Blown]

Okay then...

Where to start with Cheryl Blossom's sizing - I'm thinking band size 28.  But round the bust, I have not idea - gotta be K surely?

Margaret what does your expert eye think?

Are there any other photos of her out there? Perhaps wearing a bra?

28 back seems a little bit small for someone Witt such big boobs - it would crush her. She’s almost definitely beyond K cup. You’d be into L or M, I think. Possibly something like a 30KK/L. Difficult to say for sure though - but my goodness, her boobs are absolutely huge, pendulous and low set.

More pix of Cheryl at her thread here: https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=9997458.0

Does that help?

[Margaret]

Okay then...

Where to start with Cheryl Blossom's sizing - I'm thinking band size 28.  But round the bust, I have not idea - gotta be K surely?

Margaret what does your expert eye think?

Are there any other photos of her out there? Perhaps wearing a bra?

28 back seems a little bit small for someone Witt such big boobs - it would crush her. She’s almost definitely beyond K cup. You’d be into L or M, I think. Possibly something like a 30KK/L. Difficult to say for sure though - but my goodness, her boobs are absolutely huge, pendulous and low set.

More pix of Cheryl at her thread here: https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=9997458.0

Does that help?

She’s definitely on the bigger side, although the photos vary so much (and the poses are often about over-emphasis) that it’s difficult to tell. That first photo gave me the impression she would be a 30 back, but she could be a 32 or 34 - and definitely on the bigger cup size side, maybe JJ or K.

Any time I’ve seen boobs that big on a smallish frame, you’re up in those cup sizes.

[Margaret]

I'm not sure if smaller (by our standards) makes it any easier to estimate sizing.

So, lets have a go...

Conflicted on this one - 38F

I don’t think she’s a 38 back. Much too slim for that. More like a 32 or 34 back. With that in mind, I’m thinking maybe a 32G or a 34F/FF.

(Bear in mind all my size estimations are UK sizes).

She is not "slim" not even close to what used to pass for slim, not in the US anyway. 

She has some tummy showing, would have  in the right jeans have more than a little "muffin top"

She looks like what we would have called a "big boned girl"  She is much to big torso wise to get into a 32 band size even 34 without REALLY stretching it out.  "Digging in" type stretching.

Based on the the bed in front of her and the mirror behind her I am guessing 5'7" give or take an inch and between 125 and maybe 140 LBS.   

Based on 50 years in the US of "Observation" and comparison,  buying bras for women, raking them bra shopping at the likes of Victoria Secret checking the tags after/while  taking them off based on traditional standards or "charts"  that were used by the likes of Playtex for years and years and not any "new" methods where seemingly any woman with anything more than just nipples is a D cup or bigger and tiny band sizes rule, if I had to guess  I would say she is a "vintage/classic" pick your term 38DD

We’ve been here before phonehome1...

Firstly, I didn’t mention anything to do with her waist or weight. You’re confusing “skinny” for “slim”. When I referred to “slim”, I wasn’t referring to her body mass, I was referring to her back size/shape. Her “muffin top” has nothing to do with her bra size. I’m a 30” back (actually more like 29”) - but I have 36” hips - which bears no relation to my band size or cup size. I’m by no means “big boned”, but I have a pretty tiny back measurement - yet, I have pretty big boobs (I’m a 32FF). My shape is not unlike this woman’s. It’s all about proportion, breast tissue shape and projection (or lack thereof).

I’ve attached an image of the various guesses we’ve all made here, just for comparison. These are all real-life examples, and the bras being worn are the sizes (UK) as stated. Which one do you think is closest? I’d say the 38FF is pretty close - although, I don’t think the woman we’re assessing is a 38 back, which is why I went for 34.

38DD (either US or UK) in the past was never actually “38DD”. It was never an actual size or a unit of measurement. It was a label, based on a manufacturing process that wasn’t based on any real metric or averages. The term “DD” or “double D” eventually became synonymous with “big boobs” as a result. The world has moved on significantly in the past 10-20 years in terms of bra sizing, fitting and measuring. It’s not an exact science - it involves multiple factors, including back size, boobs/cup size, boob shape, posture, height/weight - and, crucially, the ever-changing variances in the individual designs and manufacturing of hundreds of different brands. But, we’re quite close to a general standard that combines band size + cup size + fit + look + style + comfort + support + shape = the individual woman’s actual size (which can vary from company to company - I can wear a 32FF in Curvy Kate, Freya and Fantasie bras, but I can also fit in to some 30E bras).

I admire your claim of 50 years of experience with bras and boobs and labels and such. I have one more year on you - and, I’m actually a woman who actually has a pair of boobs - and, crucially, I’ve worked as a bra fitter. I don’t always get it right, as it’s often down to a combination of guesswork, intuition, experience, wisdom - and, simply getting women to try bras on and find one that works for them.

For this woman, I estimated 32G or a 34F/FF. She has a fair bit of projection, so perhaps I slightly under-estimated her cup size - but it’s close. She’s possibly a 34G. I’d need to see more photos.

Oh, and I found her social profile - she says she’s wearing a 32G.

PS I am available for private consultations! Just DM me.

[Hiram]

She’s definitely on the bigger side, although the photos vary so much

I've just been having a look round and you're right, her pictures do vary a lot.  I don't think she is as big as the picture I posted seemed to indicate.  but still a very big woman.

In my latest challenge, I thought this picture with a hand comparison would be interesting.

[Margaret]

She’s definitely on the bigger side, although the photos vary so much

I've just been having a look round and you're right, her pictures do vary a lot.  I don't think she is as big as the picture I posted seemed to indicate.  but still a very big woman.

In my latest challenge, I thought this picture with a hand comparison would be interesting.

Another difficult one - depends on whose hand it is! If it’s an average-sized hand, you’re probably up at J cup, but equally, depending on band size, it could be G/GG H/HH. Being able to estimate back/band size is crucial to the whole package.

I’d suspect this lady is a big cup size, but an actual bra size estimate would be difficult purely based on this photo. It could be anything, really. Are there any other photos?

[Hiram]

depends on whose hand it is!

I wish it was mine ha ha.

I can't remember where I got that from , I have a feeling it is Mady Gio.

[Margaret]

depends on whose hand it is!

I wish it was mine ha ha.

I can't remember where I got that from , I have a feeling it is Mady Gio.

Ah. She’s the absolutely stunning woman we assessed earlier in the thread 😍🥰😘

I should say, I really love doing this - I hope it’s useful, informative - and maybe even fun for the BEA users. Perhaps it may even prove helpful to some people too.

[Hiram]

I hope it’s useful, informative

It is indeed.  As a man it is subject (until recently) that I have almost no knowledge at all - and it good to know some more about it.

What about this pic - can you identify here size from seeing the bra?  My gut feeling it 28DD.

[Margaret]

I hope it’s useful, informative

It is indeed.  As a man it is subject (until recently) that I have almost no knowledge at all - and it good to know some more about it.

What about this pic - can you identify here size from seeing the bra?  My gut feeling it 28DD.

28 back seems about right - but 28DD seems a bit too small. If she’s a 28 back, then her cup size is probably G - perhaps even GG or HH.

The main issue here is that she has implants (from what I can tell), which don’t follow a natural side-tissue shape and curve. Bras have side panelling in them to accommodate the skin/tissue that flows from your breasts and under your arms - whereas when implants are “installed”, that tissue can take months or years to develop, if ever) - so the bra cups don’t conform to the natural bra size the woman would be. It tends to be a mix/match scenario.

She would almost certainly be a 28 back, but it would be a case of trying out quite a few cup sizes and styles to get the right one - but definitely not DD (which is practically flat on a 28 back).

[Margaret]

I hope it’s useful, informative

It is indeed.  As a man it is subject (until recently) that I have almost no knowledge at all - and it good to know some more about it.

What about this pic - can you identify here size from seeing the bra?  My gut feeling it 28DD.

28 back seems about right - but 28DD seems a bit too small. If she’s a 28 back, then her cup size is probably G - perhaps even GG or HH.

The main issue here is that she has implants (from what I can tell), which don’t follow a natural side-tissue shape and curve. Bras have side panelling in them to accommodate the skin/tissue that flows from your breasts and under your arms - whereas when implants are “installed”, that tissue can take months or years to develop, if ever) - so the bra cups don’t conform to the natural bra size the woman would be. It tends to be a mix/match scenario.

She would almost certainly be a 28 back, but it would be a case of trying out quite a few cup sizes and styles to get the right one - but definitely not DD (which is practically flat on a 28 back).

Just for some comparisons, see attached. All taken from a user on Insta - which I should have mentioned before. I hope she doesn’t mind me using her images.

[solvegas]

I hope it’s useful, informative

It is indeed.  As a man it is subject (until recently) that I have almost no knowledge at all - and it good to know some more about it.

What about this pic - can you identify here size from seeing the bra?  My gut feeling it 28DD.

28 back seems about right - but 28DD seems a bit too small. If she’s a 28 back, then her cup size is probably G - perhaps even GG or HH.

The main issue here is that she has implants (from what I can tell), which don’t follow a natural side-tissue shape and curve. Bras have side panelling in them to accommodate the skin/tissue that flows from your breasts and under your arms - whereas when implants are “installed”, that tissue can take months or years to develop, if ever) - so the bra cups don’t conform to the natural bra size the woman would be. It tends to be a mix/match scenario.

She would almost certainly be a 28 back, but it would be a case of trying out quite a few cup sizes and styles to get the right one - but definitely not DD (which is practically flat on a 28 back).

Just for some comparisons, see attached. All taken from a user on Insta - which I should have mentioned before. I hope she doesn’t mind me using her images.

That DD looks downright flat. 

[Margaret]

I hope it’s useful, informative

It is indeed.  As a man it is subject (until recently) that I have almost no knowledge at all - and it good to know some more about it.

What about this pic - can you identify here size from seeing the bra?  My gut feeling it 28DD.

28 back seems about right - but 28DD seems a bit too small. If she’s a 28 back, then her cup size is probably G - perhaps even GG or HH.

The main issue here is that she has implants (from what I can tell), which don’t follow a natural side-tissue shape and curve. Bras have side panelling in them to accommodate the skin/tissue that flows from your breasts and under your arms - whereas when implants are “installed”, that tissue can take months or years to develop, if ever) - so the bra cups don’t conform to the natural bra size the woman would be. It tends to be a mix/match scenario.

She would almost certainly be a 28 back, but it would be a case of trying out quite a few cup sizes and styles to get the right one - but definitely not DD (which is practically flat on a 28 back).

Just for some comparisons, see attached. All taken from a user on Insta - which I should have mentioned before. I hope she doesn’t mind me using her images.

That DD looks downright flat. 

Yep. Exactly. It dispels the myth of DD = huge. It’s all down to a combination of things; old manufacturing processes, where bra sizes and cups were standardised across a range (and didn’t go beyond DD). But also, modern bra sizes (post 2006-ish) are a combination of the material that goes into the back band and the material required to encase the boobs in the cups - so, for example, someone with a small back band, but who has small boobs, could still be in the D+ range, because it’s all about the cup material length being added to the back band material length (and the difference between the two). However, someone with the same back size, but who has bigger boobs, is going to need more cup material (but not more band material), so the cup size increases.

And then you get into bigger backs (more band material) and bigger boobs - but not necessarily needing bigger cups (and vice-versa).

In the image attached, both of the bras have a 30 band; the smaller bra is a B cup, and the larger is a G cup. A woman wearing a 30G has the exact same circumference around her back as a woman wearing the 30B, but they have quite significantly different sized boobs. (Also, note the lining/reinforced panel on the bigger bra cup - bigger boobs need much more support in the cups).

For clarity: the band size is the ribcage size and the letter is the cup size - which refers to how many inches larger the bust is than the band size (mostly).

[solvegas]

I hope it’s useful, informative

It is indeed.  As a man it is subject (until recently) that I have almost no knowledge at all - and it good to know some more about it.

What about this pic - can you identify here size from seeing the bra?  My gut feeling it 28DD.

28 back seems about right - but 28DD seems a bit too small. If she’s a 28 back, then her cup size is probably G - perhaps even GG or HH.

The main issue here is that she has implants (from what I can tell), which don’t follow a natural side-tissue shape and curve. Bras have side panelling in them to accommodate the skin/tissue that flows from your breasts and under your arms - whereas when implants are “installed”, that tissue can take months or years to develop, if ever) - so the bra cups don’t conform to the natural bra size the woman would be. It tends to be a mix/match scenario.

She would almost certainly be a 28 back, but it would be a case of trying out quite a few cup sizes and styles to get the right one - but definitely not DD (which is practically flat on a 28 back).

Just for some comparisons, see attached. All taken from a user on Insta - which I should have mentioned before. I hope she doesn’t mind me using her images.

That DD looks downright flat. 

Yep. Exactly. It dispels the myth of DD = huge. It’s all down to a combination of things; old manufacturing processes, where bra sizes and cups were standardised across a range (and didn’t go beyond DD). But also, modern bra sizes (post 2006-ish) are a combination of the material that goes into the back band and the material required to encase the boobs in the cups - so, for example, someone with a small back band, but who has small boobs, could still be in the D+ range, because it’s all about the cup material length being added to the back band material length (and the difference between the two). However, someone with the same back size, but who has bigger boobs, is going to need more cup material (but not more band material), so the cup size increases.

And then you get into bigger backs (more band material) and bigger boobs - but not necessarily needing bigger cups (and vice-versa).

In the image attached, both of the bras have a 30 band; the smaller bra is a B cup, and the larger is a G cup. A woman wearing a 30G has the exact same circumference around her back as a woman wearing the 30B, but they have quite significantly different sized boobs. (Also, note the lining/reinforced panel on the bigger bra cup - bigger boobs need much more support in the cups).

For clarity: the band size is the ribcage size and the letter is the cup size - which refers to how many inches larger the bust is than the band size (mostly).

Thanks for clarifying much of our ignorance. Your patience with us is amazing. This old pervert ....er ..... breasts connoisseur appreciates your knowledge and grace. 

[Margaret]

I hope it’s useful, informative

It is indeed.  As a man it is subject (until recently) that I have almost no knowledge at all - and it good to know some more about it.

What about this pic - can you identify here size from seeing the bra?  My gut feeling it 28DD.

28 back seems about right - but 28DD seems a bit too small. If she’s a 28 back, then her cup size is probably G - perhaps even GG or HH.

The main issue here is that she has implants (from what I can tell), which don’t follow a natural side-tissue shape and curve. Bras have side panelling in them to accommodate the skin/tissue that flows from your breasts and under your arms - whereas when implants are “installed”, that tissue can take months or years to develop, if ever) - so the bra cups don’t conform to the natural bra size the woman would be. It tends to be a mix/match scenario.

She would almost certainly be a 28 back, but it would be a case of trying out quite a few cup sizes and styles to get the right one - but definitely not DD (which is practically flat on a 28 back).

Just for some comparisons, see attached. All taken from a user on Insta - which I should have mentioned before. I hope she doesn’t mind me using her images.

That DD looks downright flat. 

Yep. Exactly. It dispels the myth of DD = huge. It’s all down to a combination of things; old manufacturing processes, where bra sizes and cups were standardised across a range (and didn’t go beyond DD). But also, modern bra sizes (post 2006-ish) are a combination of the material that goes into the back band and the material required to encase the boobs in the cups - so, for example, someone with a small back band, but who has small boobs, could still be in the D+ range, because it’s all about the cup material length being added to the back band material length (and the difference between the two). However, someone with the same back size, but who has bigger boobs, is going to need more cup material (but not more band material), so the cup size increases.

And then you get into bigger backs (more band material) and bigger boobs - but not necessarily needing bigger cups (and vice-versa).

In the image attached, both of the bras have a 30 band; the smaller bra is a B cup, and the larger is a G cup. A woman wearing a 30G has the exact same circumference around her back as a woman wearing the 30B, but they have quite significantly different sized boobs. (Also, note the lining/reinforced panel on the bigger bra cup - bigger boobs need much more support in the cups).

For clarity: the band size is the ribcage size and the letter is the cup size - which refers to how many inches larger the bust is than the band size (mostly).

Thanks for clarifying much of our ignorance. Your patience with us is amazing. This old pervert ....er ..... breasts connoisseur appreciates your knowledge and grace. 

You’re more than welcome. I really love doing this. It’s just a bizarre coincidence that I’ve ended up doing it on here and not on some other (female-centric) forum.

Men (especially boob fetishists!) need educated about bras too!