[Hiram]

Too much personal data available.

That is going to be the real challenge for any online sale - at some point you're going to have to exchange personal details. 

[Hiram]

either small, private outlets

Yes have one of those near me. It a specialist bra shop - they do a bra fitting service.  Its one of the only bra specialists I've ever seen to be honest. 

[Hiram]

Okay back to the challenge.

Via Paxton - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Via_Paxton - BP states F, I'm going to disregard that, she is H at least?

[Margaret]

Okay back to the challenge.

Via Paxton - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Via_Paxton - BP states F, I'm going to disregard that, she is H at least?

If she’s 5’8”, then she’s bigger than F. She’s quite broad in the back, but her boob size seems to vary from photo to photo, so I’m assuming she’s gained weight and grown over the years.

If I was to guess, I’d say 32 or 34 back - and possibly G/GG. I’ll go for 34G.

[Margaret]

Too much personal data available.

That is going to be the real challenge for any online sale - at some point you're going to have to exchange personal details.

I think there’s a service called CashApp that’s anonymous (mostly), but I’ve never tried it.

[Hiram]

For those playing along at home - here's the stats so far. (sorted by cup size)

India Reynolds 30 D Paola Ruiz 28 D Gillian Duxbury 30 DD Alex Jones 30 E Christy Canyon 32 E Eva Herzigova 30 E Tracy Neve 34 E Alexis May 32 F Amanda Davidson 28 F Ava Moore 28 F Christina Lucci 32 F Diane Kruger 28 F Gabbie Carter 28 F Hannah Claydon 28 F Ines Cudna 34 F Marilyn Lange 34 F Milly Morris 34 F Pat Wynn 34 F Sarah Louise Young 32 F Sunny Wagner 36 F Angela White 32 FF April O'Neill 28 FF Daisy van Heyden 26 FF Devin Brugman 28 FF Katerina Konec 34 FF Luna Amor 34 FF Sam Fox 28 FF Abigail Ratchford 34 G Ashley Juggs 34 G Bettie Ballhaus 30 G Brandy Ryder 40 G Fiona Siciliano 30 G Janet Lupo 30 G Janne Hollan 38 G Joey Fisher. 32 G Joyce Gibson 34 G Juliana Simms 40 G Maggie Green 34 G Maritza Mendez 32 G Petra Verkaik. 32 G Roberta Smallwood 42 G Zuzanna Drabinova 30 G Brandy Talore 34 GG Donna Ambrose 32 GG Maria Whittaker 30 GG Marketa Pechova 26 GG Montana Mounds 34 GG Roberta Pedon 34 GG Sensual Jane 34 GG Valory Irene 34 GG Virginia Bell 32 GG Carol Kirkwood 34 H Faith Nelson 30 H Kerry Marie 36 H Terry Nova 34 H Yulia Nova 30 H Alexsis Faye. 36 HH Alina (SiliconeFree) - 36 HH Bea Flora 34 HH Carolina Sukie 36 HH Mady Gio 32 HH Michelle Monaghan 34 HH Tessa Fowler 28 HH Wendy Fiore 32 HH Ashley Ellison 36 J Charlene Hutchinson 34 J Jennica Lynn 38 J Kelly Madison 34 J Kimberly Kupps 36 J Lilith Grant 34 J September Carrino 28 J Agnetis Miracle. 34 JJ Amanda Torres 38 JJ Chesty Morgan 34 JJ Emilia Boshe 38 JJ Hitomi Tanaka 26 JJ Jana Defi 30 JJ Jane BestTits 38 JJ Lorna Morgan 30 JJ Maria Body 34 JJ Sarah Nicola Randall 30 JJ Alicia Loren 38 K Milena Velba 38 K Stacy Vandenberg 32 K Anastasiya Berthier 34 KK Antonella Kahllo 32 KK Kira Liv 36 L Leanne Crow 34 L Abbi Secraa 36 LL Nadine Jansen 38 LL

[Margaret]

For those playing along at home - here's the stats so far. (sorted by cup size)

India Reynolds 30 D Paola Ruiz 28 D Gillian Duxbury 30 DD Alex Jones 30 E Christy Canyon 32 E Eva Herzigova 30 E Tracy Neve 34 E Alexis May 32 F Amanda Davidson 28 F Ava Moore 28 F Christina Lucci 32 F Diane Kruger 28 F Gabbie Carter 28 F Hannah Claydon 28 F Ines Cudna 34 F Marilyn Lange 34 F Milly Morris 34 F Pat Wynn 34 F Sarah Louise Young 32 F Sunny Wagner 36 F Angela White 32 FF April O'Neill 28 FF Daisy van Heyden 26 FF Devin Brugman 28 FF Katerina Konec 34 FF Luna Amor 34 FF Sam Fox 28 FF Abigail Ratchford 34 G Ashley Juggs 34 G Bettie Ballhaus 30 G Brandy Ryder 40 G Fiona Siciliano 30 G Janet Lupo 30 G Janne Hollan 38 G Joey Fisher. 32 G Joyce Gibson 34 G Juliana Simms 40 G Maggie Green 34 G Maritza Mendez 32 G Petra Verkaik. 32 G Roberta Smallwood 42 G Zuzanna Drabinova 30 G Brandy Talore 34 GG Donna Ambrose 32 GG Maria Whittaker 30 GG Marketa Pechova 26 GG Montana Mounds 34 GG Roberta Pedon 34 GG Sensual Jane 34 GG Valory Irene 34 GG Virginia Bell 32 GG Carol Kirkwood 34 H Faith Nelson 30 H Kerry Marie 36 H Terry Nova 34 H Yulia Nova 30 H Alexsis Faye. 36 HH Alina (SiliconeFree) - 36 HH Bea Flora 34 HH Carolina Sukie 36 HH Mady Gio 32 HH Michelle Monaghan 34 HH Tessa Fowler 28 HH Wendy Fiore 32 HH Ashley Ellison 36 J Charlene Hutchinson 34 J Jennica Lynn 38 J Kelly Madison 34 J Kimberly Kupps 36 J Lilith Grant 34 J September Carrino 28 J Agnetis Miracle. 34 JJ Amanda Torres 38 JJ Chesty Morgan 34 JJ Emilia Boshe 38 JJ Hitomi Tanaka 26 JJ Jana Defi 30 JJ Jane BestTits 38 JJ Lorna Morgan 30 JJ Maria Body 34 JJ Sarah Nicola Randall 30 JJ Alicia Loren 38 K Milena Velba 38 K Stacy Vandenberg 32 K Anastasiya Berthier 34 KK Antonella Kahllo 32 KK Kira Liv 36 L Leanne Crow 34 L Abbi Secraa 36 LL Nadine Jansen 38 LL

This is amazing! So worthwhile. Of course, it’s just my opinion, but there’s a fantastic range of sizes here. Lots of FF (close to my heart!) and amazing to see so many J/JJ/K/KK - big boobs FTW!

Keep them coming - lots of famous names I haven’t been challenged with yet (and one in particular I’m looking forward to studying!).

[Margaret]

was/is the +4 (“plus four”) method of measuring. It's a historical hangover that was meant to be a temporary solution and ended up becoming the norm.

I had no idea - that is an interesting anecdote.  I'll ask women I know about this.   I bet they have no clue.

a C cup was basically a “medium” - whatever that was supposed to mean.

It had to have been a nightmare to get a good fit.

I can’t stress enough how much fitting has made a difference. Measurements are only part of the process; getting fitted for a bra gives a much more accurate size.  Imagine just buying shoes because you think you’re a size 9, and not trying them on to see how they fit. It’s the same with a bra. 

I agree - actually I am a size 9 - and to illustrate the point you a making, I bought some new trainers recently - tried them on in the store and 9 1/2 was a better fit.  Now if I'd not tried them on and bought them online I'd have the wrong size.

In terms of materials - the best engineers and designers have worked bras for decades. The problem is, no two women are alike, so designing a one-fits-all solution doesn’t work.

I guess that is the real issue - my idea is (not well researched I'd admit) using a material that forms a shape after some sort of process.  Almost like a memory foam mattress.

There are materials that exhibit somewhat similar properties.  You can get  heat shrink tubing for electronics.  It s rubber tube once heated shrinks to shape. It's fascinating stuff. Imagine putting on a bra and having it precisely fit to your shape after processing - and for it to stay that shape and still have its elasticity.

But then I have never worn a bra - so ultimately I suspect a woman would come up with a solution.

cotton and elastic (Lycra). The cotton is the fabric of the bra, which is lined with elastic to give movement in the materials

My bag of bras is next to me here in the attic - I will dig one out and have a better look at the construction.

You have a bag of bras? Lucky boy.

What bras do you have and what sizes?

I really should take the time to dismantle one of my bras (in the interests of science) and show all the components in one place. Like one of those device “teardowns” I’ve heard my husband mention. It would be fascinating to see what truly goes into a Panache Tango II.

[Hiram]

Lots of FF (close to my heart!)

Literally and figuratively...

Keep them coming - lots of famous names I haven’t been challenged with yet (and one in particular I’m looking forward to studying!).

You've just given me an idea...

Penelope Cruz - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Penelope_Cruz - BP says 34C - maybe at some point, but she is bigger than that now.

Attached is data in graph form.

[Hiram]

You have a bag of bras? Lucky boy.

All donated.  Jeez I have even have a leather skirt and a maids outfit.

What bras do you have and what size

I did post pics of most of them earlier on in the thread - I was going through them the other day and found a matching pair of briefs and bra.  I've had them for years and never noticed before.   

https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=10004262.150

YI really should take the time to dismantle one of my bras (in the interests of science) and show all the components in one place. Like one of those device “teardowns” I’ve heard my husband mention. It would be fascinating to see what truly goes into a Panache Tango II.

Yeah that would be great.  There would be a lot of unpicking.  My first job after school was working in a high end clothing manufacturer - my job was to cut materials from patterns to be machined.  I have an appreciation of how complex clothing is to put together.  But a bra is something else.

[Margaret]

You have a bag of bras? Lucky boy.

All donated.  Jeez I have even have a leather skirt and a maids outfit.

What bras do you have and what size

I did post pics of most of them earlier on in the thread - I was going through them the other day and found a matching pair of briefs and bra.  I've had them for years and never noticed before.   

https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=10004262.150

YI really should take the time to dismantle one of my bras (in the interests of science) and show all the components in one place. Like one of those device “teardowns” I’ve heard my husband mention. It would be fascinating to see what truly goes into a Panache Tango II.

Yeah that would be great.  There would be a lot of unpicking.  My first job after school was working in a high end clothing manufacturer - my job was to cut materials from patterns to be machined.  I have an appreciation of how complex clothing is to put together.  But a bra is something else.

That’s a nice plunge bra! (I’ve never been able to get them to work for me).

[Margaret]

Lots of FF (close to my heart!)

Literally and figuratively...

Keep them coming - lots of famous names I haven’t been challenged with yet (and one in particular I’m looking forward to studying!).

You've just given me an idea...

Penelope Cruz - https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Penelope_Cruz - BP says 34C - maybe at some point, but she is bigger than that now.

Attached is data in graph form.

Penelope: it’s probably going to be something like a 28D/E. Not big in the cups at all. Pert.

[Anonymouse]

For those playing along at home - here's the stats so far. (sorted by cup size)

Tessa Fowler 28 HH Wendy Fiore 32 HH

This is amazing! So worthwhile. Of course, it’s just my opinion, but there’s a fantastic range of sizes here. Lots of FF (close to my heart!) and amazing to see so many J/JJ/K/KK - big boobs FTW!

Keep them coming - lots of famous names I haven’t been challenged with yet (and one in particular I’m looking forward to studying!).

Tessa and Wendy are the same cup size?  I guess that's because Tessa is so much shorter, but wow, I would of thought Wendy's cup size would be much bigger.

But if you want more, how about Anri Okita?  Boobpedia says 5'6" and a 34 band, which seems big.
But for cup size... I just don't know.  In these pics she was absolutely huge.

Would you mind estimating some regular **28**?  There are some that have no nude or topless pictures that I've always wondered at their real measurements....

[Margaret]

For those playing along at home - here's the stats so far. (sorted by cup size)

Tessa Fowler 28 HH Wendy Fiore 32 HH

This is amazing! So worthwhile. Of course, it’s just my opinion, but there’s a fantastic range of sizes here. Lots of FF (close to my heart!) and amazing to see so many J/JJ/K/KK - big boobs FTW!

Keep them coming - lots of famous names I haven’t been challenged with yet (and one in particular I’m looking forward to studying!).

Tessa and Wendy are the same cup size?  I guess that's because Tessa is so much shorter, but wow, I would of thought Wendy's cup size would be much bigger.

But if you want more, how about Anri Okita?  Boobpedia says 5'6" and a 34 band, which seems big.
But for cup size... I just don't know.  In these pics she was absolutely huge.

Would you mind estimating some regular **28**?  There are some that have no nude or topless pictures that I've always wondered at their real measurements....

Remember that while their cup sizes are the same, their band sizes are four inches apart - and while the band size represents the underbust measurement, it also adds material to the cups. There’s a world of difference between, say, a 28J and a  34J.

Anri looks like she’d be something like a 32F, maybe a 30FF - but her boobs vary in photos, so perhaps she’s grown. Possibly up as high as 30/32GG.

In terms of estimating regular women - I wouldn’t be comfortable if it was done without their consent. I know I’m estimating models on here without their consent - but they’re women who have out their photos into the public domain willingly and would especially the images to be pored over, so to speak. If wouldn’t be keen on estimating a random woman’s bra size from her social media photos, if she wasn’t someone who engaged in something like modelling or something similar. You could always send me a private message about it.

[Hiram]

Penelope: it’s probably going to be something like a 28D/E. Not big in the cups at all. Pert.

Cheers - actually I was thinking of Salma Hayek, got them mixed up.

https://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Salma_Hayek -36E?