[phonehome1]

I’ve been browsing around and googling to try and find out more about this immensely beautiful woman. I gather she’s retired now?

Many websites seem to list her bra size as 32G/FF.

Not. A. Chance.

I know this, because I’m 32FF - and her boobs are waaaaay bigger than mine.

It’s difficult to tell, because she’s so petite and slim in most of her photos, and from what I gather, she wasn’t/isn’t tall - maybe 5’3” or 5’4” - although, that doesn’t seem right, as she looks tall in many of of her photos when she’s with other women (maybe they’re small too?) or wearing stilloes.

With all this in mind, I suspect she’s not a 32 back - probably more like a 30 back, but it’s possible, depending on the bra. She’s almost definitely in the K/KK or maybe L cup range - certainly before her reduction.

I’m estimating, if I were to fit her (as she was before she had her reduction), she’d be a 32KK or 30L.

This is because and it has been explained to you MULTIPLE TIMES  but you refuse to get through you thick fucking heads  the DIFFERENCE between the US "plus 4" system which was THE WORLD STANDARD for going on 100 years and for the most part still is and your utterly BULLSHIT "look at me I SOUND so big" UK standard which until 20 years ago NO ONE outside the UK had ever even heard of and EVEN UK models in the 80's "page 3 girls"like Samantha Fox, Debbie Jordam and a simular busty blonde who went by "Debbie Q" and then 10 or so years later the first wave of "the all natural girls" LDM, Lorna Morgan Chole Verrier etc etc none of whom tried to claim to be Z cups or what ever by using your bullshit UK sizing sizing which was only popularized to further the "their must be something in the water" MYTH that all women in the UK were packing big tits, that D cups were just training bras  when objective studies using the US standard said that the difference between US women and UK women was only about one cup size and when you controlled for BF/BMI IE screened out the FAT girls it was less than one cup size so to support this myth enter your bullshit "I sound so big" UK sizing system

The average band size for US women for decades has been from 34 to 38 inches 36 inches being the average

Christy Canyon, 5'7" 125 or so size 6 a 36DD and "big boned girls" like "Samatha 38G" and plenty of examples of models and porn stars  at or around  5'4" and 110 give or take that are/were 34 somethings , drop down to 5 foot and 95 and you get mostly 32's and FEW as in VERY FEW 30's and then we are talking like 4'10 and 90 pounds and NO ONE unless we are talking "little people" with 28's     , 

Here is the bottom line you take ANY woman and measure her using the US standard she will be X and then use the UK system and instantly her band size is 4 inches smaller and then "magically" her cup size is 4 cup sizes BIGGER  and "presto" a woman that ANY guy in the US who has seen, got his hands on, took bra shoping to Victoria Secret or at least got a peek at the tag on bra of a woman 5'4" 110 and a 34B maybe borderline C is all the sudden claiming to be a 30DD 

Some one who is probably at best a DD claiming to be a FF
 

I guess this was inevitable: a man angrily explaining bra sizing/fitting to a woman.

Yes a man who has been closely examing teh contents of womens bras , women from coast to coast and border to border and around the  world to include women in the UK, a man who has been taking women bra shopping and after checking the tag when she is asleep or in the shower buying bras for those women and doing it for decades, probably BEFORE YOU WERE BORN

A man who first saw Christy Canyon in the early 80's and saw dozens of women that were just like her, 5'7" give or take an inch, 125 give of take a few pounds, about a size 6  36DD or close to it.  enough women to be able to look at a woman and say she is a ----- and be correct or REALLY close.

A man that knows what size those UK models like Samantha Fox and Debbie Jordan said they were D toDD when they appeared in Playboy and Penthouse in the 80's and what size the next generation, LDM and Lorna Morgan said they weer H and FF when the appeared in Score, Gent and other such magazines in the mid to late 90's ,

A man that knows that until the early 00's he had never heard of this bullshit  UK sizing system and knows if he asked just about any US man with a like level of experience that would say the same and that even UK models did not cite it as to their size

A man who has conclude that the ONLY reason the UK sizing system is as popular as it is now and popular with woman like you is that it make woman like you SOUND BIGGER

Look it at me, click on my site  I am a 30DD when you are at best a 34 B a 30FF when at best a 34DD

It SOUNDS GOOD until you see side by side pics 

Yes THAT man

[phonehome1]

And even he got it partially wrong, The cupsize difference comes from the antiquated imperial system (1 inch per cupsize) and the rest of the world metric system (2cm per cupsize). In the small sizes there isn't much difference, but every 4 US cupsizes equals 5 in the rest of the world. So
D      = DD/E
FF/G = HH/I
H      = J
K      = N

And there is also differences between manufacturers, I once went bra shopping with an ex-girlfriend, because she'd outgrown her 80D bra, and all the bras she tried on in differend stores ranged from 80D to 80F.

It's  time for a new global system, where the cupsize is defined by volumetric measurement intstead of a linear  measurement. Implants are defined in cc's, why not cup-sizes?

I am quite aware how teh one inch per cup size system works that in reality DD and E are teh same size and that FF and G are the same size and so on and so forth.

You can call the "imperial system" "antiquated" if you want but it was the "world standard" the "gold standard" if you will for DECADES  and at least in the US and a lot of the rest of the "western world " STILL IS

The bottom line is as I said before take any woman control for height BF/BMI and overall build  and if you use teh US standard she will be a band size 34 to 38 and the majority will be  36 but measure that exact same woman using teh UK system and her band size will be 4 inches less  and as result the inch per cup size differential will be 4 inches greater  and like magic a 34B turns into a 30f

They are the exact same woman but until you see that one SOUNDS BIGGER

Here is an analogy for you

Every guy knows there is 2 ways to measure penis size, on the top with a hard ruler, non bone pressed which will equal X inches and along the bottom, including plenty of scrotum and you will be a good inch "longer" :if you have good upward curve and use a clot tape you can probably  eek out another 1/2 inch or so.

One way makes you SOUND BIGGER even when you are NOT

[Margaret]

And even he got it partially wrong, The cupsize difference comes from the antiquated imperial system (1 inch per cupsize) and the rest of the world metric system (2cm per cupsize). In the small sizes there isn't much difference, but every 4 US cupsizes equals 5 in the rest of the world. So
D      = DD/E
FF/G = HH/I
H      = J
K      = N

And there is also differences between manufacturers, I once went bra shopping with an ex-girlfriend, because she'd outgrown her 80D bra, and all the bras she tried on in differend stores ranged from 80D to 80F.

It's  time for a new global system, where the cupsize is defined by volumetric measurement intstead of a linear  measurement. Implants are defined in cc's, why not cup-sizes?

I am quite aware how teh one inch per cup size system works that in reality DD and E are teh same size and that FF and G are the same size and so on and so forth.

You can call the "imperial system" "antiquated" if you want but it was the "world standard" the "gold standard" if you will for DECADES  and at least in the US and a lot of the rest of the "western world " STILL IS

The bottom line is as I said before take any woman control for height BF/BMI and overall build  and if you use teh US standard she will be a band size 34 to 38 and the majority will be  36 but measure that exact same woman using teh UK system and her band size will be 4 inches less  and as result the inch per cup size differential will be 4 inches greater  and like magic a 34B turns into a 30f

They are the exact same woman but until you see that one SOUNDS BIGGER

Here is an analogy for you

Every guy knows there is 2 ways to measure penis size, on the top with a hard ruler, non bone pressed which will equal X inches and along the bottom, including plenty of scrotum and you will be a good inch "longer" :if you have good upward curve and use a clot tape you can probably  eek out another 1/2 inch or so.

One way makes you SOUND BIGGER even when you are NOT

I don’t even know where to begin with this. It’s deranged, ill-informed and unintelligible gibberish - and not actually based on any facts or available information about how bra sizing worked in the past, or how it works now.

[MaxBigfoot]

And even he got it partially wrong, The cupsize difference comes from the antiquated imperial system (1 inch per cupsize) and the rest of the world metric system (2cm per cupsize). In the small sizes there isn't much difference, but every 4 US cupsizes equals 5 in the rest of the world. So
D      = DD/E
FF/G = HH/I
H      = J
K      = N

And there is also differences between manufacturers, I once went bra shopping with an ex-girlfriend, because she'd outgrown her 80D bra, and all the bras she tried on in differend stores ranged from 80D to 80F.

It's  time for a new global system, where the cupsize is defined by volumetric measurement intstead of a linear  measurement. Implants are defined in cc's, why not cup-sizes?

I am quite aware how teh one inch per cup size system works that in reality DD and E are teh same size and that FF and G are the same size and so on and so forth.

You can call the "imperial system" "antiquated" if you want but it was the "world standard" the "gold standard" if you will for DECADES  and at least in the US and a lot of the rest of the "western world " STILL IS

The bottom line is as I said before take any woman control for height BF/BMI and overall build  and if you use teh US standard she will be a band size 34 to 38 and the majority will be  36 but measure that exact same woman using teh UK system and her band size will be 4 inches less  and as result the inch per cup size differential will be 4 inches greater  and like magic a 34B turns into a 30f

They are the exact same woman but until you see that one SOUNDS BIGGER

Here is an analogy for you

Every guy knows there is 2 ways to measure penis size, on the top with a hard ruler, non bone pressed which will equal X inches and along the bottom, including plenty of scrotum and you will be a good inch "longer" :if you have good upward curve and use a clot tape you can probably  eek out another 1/2 inch or so.

One way makes you SOUND BIGGER even when you are NOT

I don’t even know where to begin with this. It’s deranged, ill-informed and unintelligible gibberish - and not actually based on any facts or available information about how bra sizing worked in the past, or how it works now.

My apologies for my fellow BEA'er, Margaret.  It sounds like he's been having a bad day, and for some reason he's been triggered for nothing that would require this kind of emotion or rhetoric.   

[phonehome1]

And even he got it partially wrong, The cupsize difference comes from the antiquated imperial system (1 inch per cupsize) and the rest of the world metric system (2cm per cupsize). In the small sizes there isn't much difference, but every 4 US cupsizes equals 5 in the rest of the world. So
D      = DD/E
FF/G = HH/I
H      = J
K      = N

And there is also differences between manufacturers, I once went bra shopping with an ex-girlfriend, because she'd outgrown her 80D bra, and all the bras she tried on in differend stores ranged from 80D to 80F.

It's  time for a new global system, where the cupsize is defined by volumetric measurement intstead of a linear  measurement. Implants are defined in cc's, why not cup-sizes?

I am quite aware how teh one inch per cup size system works that in reality DD and E are teh same size and that FF and G are the same size and so on and so forth.

You can call the "imperial system" "antiquated" if you want but it was the "world standard" the "gold standard" if you will for DECADES  and at least in the US and a lot of the rest of the "western world " STILL IS

The bottom line is as I said before take any woman control for height BF/BMI and overall build  and if you use teh US standard she will be a band size 34 to 38 and the majority will be  36 but measure that exact same woman using teh UK system and her band size will be 4 inches less  and as result the inch per cup size differential will be 4 inches greater  and like magic a 34B turns into a 30f

They are the exact same woman but until you see that one SOUNDS BIGGER

Here is an analogy for you

Every guy knows there is 2 ways to measure penis size, on the top with a hard ruler, non bone pressed which will equal X inches and along the bottom, including plenty of scrotum and you will be a good inch "longer" :if you have good upward curve and use a clot tape you can probably  eek out another 1/2 inch or so.

One way makes you SOUND BIGGER even when you are NOT

I don’t even know where to begin with this. It’s deranged, ill-informed and unintelligible gibberish - and not actually based on any facts or available information about how bra sizing worked in the past, or how it works now.

So Christy Canyon, google her if you need to  and all those MILLONS of other American women who have a simular build and have been wearing well fitted 36DD bras from the likes of Playtex, Maidenform, Fredrichs of Hollywood  and Victoria Secret for the last 40 years are just WRONG

Is that it  ?

Or is your sizing system BULLSHIT  which has one and only one mission in life,

Making you SOUND BIGGER

[phonehome1]

And even he got it partially wrong, The cupsize difference comes from the antiquated imperial system (1 inch per cupsize) and the rest of the world metric system (2cm per cupsize). In the small sizes there isn't much difference, but every 4 US cupsizes equals 5 in the rest of the world. So
D      = DD/E
FF/G = HH/I
H      = J
K      = N

And there is also differences between manufacturers, I once went bra shopping with an ex-girlfriend, because she'd outgrown her 80D bra, and all the bras she tried on in differend stores ranged from 80D to 80F.

It's  time for a new global system, where the cupsize is defined by volumetric measurement intstead of a linear  measurement. Implants are defined in cc's, why not cup-sizes?

I am quite aware how teh one inch per cup size system works that in reality DD and E are teh same size and that FF and G are the same size and so on and so forth.

You can call the "imperial system" "antiquated" if you want but it was the "world standard" the "gold standard" if you will for DECADES  and at least in the US and a lot of the rest of the "western world " STILL IS

The bottom line is as I said before take any woman control for height BF/BMI and overall build  and if you use teh US standard she will be a band size 34 to 38 and the majority will be  36 but measure that exact same woman using teh UK system and her band size will be 4 inches less  and as result the inch per cup size differential will be 4 inches greater  and like magic a 34B turns into a 30f

They are the exact same woman but until you see that one SOUNDS BIGGER

Here is an analogy for you

Every guy knows there is 2 ways to measure penis size, on the top with a hard ruler, non bone pressed which will equal X inches and along the bottom, including plenty of scrotum and you will be a good inch "longer" :if you have good upward curve and use a clot tape you can probably  eek out another 1/2 inch or so.

One way makes you SOUND BIGGER even when you are NOT

I don’t even know where to begin with this. It’s deranged, ill-informed and unintelligible gibberish - and not actually based on any facts or available information about how bra sizing worked in the past, or how it works now.

My apologies for my fellow BEA'er, Margaret.  It sounds like he's been having a bad day, and for some reason he's been triggered for nothing that would require this kind of emotion or rhetoric.   

No that is not it

Not even close

It is as simple as this

For DECADEs, going on 100 frickin years there was ONME WAY that we measureed a woman and determined her bra size

The sytem that had Christy Canyon at 36 DD  and LDM at a as I recal 36H  and then seemingly out of no where about 20 years ago this new system stated getting used and it was different in two ways, womans band sizes were all the sudden smaller in an era where if anything woman are getting BIGGER and cup sizes exploded to letters that were the likes of Wendy whoppers, and Sarena Lee and the example of this thread Tiffany Towers others in the 90's even though anyone with eyes can see the comparison of them to these "new system women" is NOT EVEN CLOSE and my question is WHY ?

I have said why I believe it was done

Marketing

Getting clicks

Look ay me I am so big 

   

[BacE]

You can call the "imperial system" "antiquated" if you want but it was the "world standard" the "gold standard" if you will for DECADES  and at least in the US and a lot of the rest of the "western world " STILL IS

You said it yourself: "was the "world standard"" and "for DECADES", means antiquated.
Three countries (US Liberia and Myanmar) is not "a lot".

[salem]

I'll let Curvy Kate have the last word...

After all they make, fit and sell bras FOR A LIVING!

https://www.curvykate.com/blogs/news/want-to-know-the-real-reason-why-women-are-wearing-the-wrong-bra-size#:~:text=The%20'Plus%204'%20Fitting%20method,from%20the%20difference%20in%20measurements.%22&text=Today%20specialist%20bra%20fitters%20(that's,don't%20'measure'.

[Margaret]

I'll let Curvy Kate have the last word...

After all they make, fit and sell bras FOR A LIVING!

https://www.curvykate.com/blogs/news/want-to-know-the-real-reason-why-women-are-wearing-the-wrong-bra-size#:~:text=The%20'Plus%204'%20Fitting%20method,from%20the%20difference%20in%20measurements.%22&text=Today%20specialist%20bra%20fitters%20(that's,don't%20'measure'.

THIS.

Also. I’m working on a response to this nonsense about “gold standards”. If a gold standard is doing something wrong for 100+ years, I don’t know what a platinum standard would be.

[solvegas]

Platinum would be 500 years. 

[solvegas]

I was thinking how a thread about one of the best porn stars ever with an amazing body, fantastic boob job and a face that would launch a thousand ships, became a discussion about bra fitting. All interesting I guess but I think it's not very conducive for keeping things peaceful around here. My $0.02. Anyways, a small gif to remind people why this thread exists. Click it. By the way, Tiffany's birthday is two days from now on the 19th and she will be 49 years old. I still have the issue of Gent Magazine when she was a brand new model at the ripe old age of 19. 

[Margaret]

I was thinking how a thread about one of the best porn stars ever with an amazing body, fantastic boob job and a face that would launch a thousand ships, became a discussion about bra fitting. All interesting I guess but I think it's not very conducive for keeping things peaceful around here. My $0.02. Anyways, a small gif to remind people why this thread exists. Click it. By the way, Tiffany's birthday is two days from now on the 19th and she will be 49 years old. I still have the issue of Gent Magazine when she was a brand new model at the ripe old age of 19. 

I agree, but it’s also important to determine her proper bra size and educate people.

And happy birthday to her when it comes (I suspect her bra size wasn’t the only thing she told fibs about during her career - chances are she’s older than 49 now).

[solvegas]

She was born Tiffany Amarziano from Toronto, Canada on December 19, 1971. 

[phonehome1]

I'll let Curvy Kate have the last word...

After all they make, fit and sell bras FOR A LIVING!

https://www.curvykate.com/blogs/news/want-to-know-the-real-reason-why-women-are-wearing-the-wrong-bra-size#:~:text=The%20'Plus%204'%20Fitting%20method,from%20the%20difference%20in%20measurements.%22&text=Today%20specialist%20bra%20fitters%20(that's,don't%20'measure'.

Well firt off Curvy Kate is a UK bra maker so surprise surprise surprise they would sign on to using this UK methods

I do not know how long they have been in the game but I am fairly certain that the likes of Playtex, Frederick's of Hollywood, Madenform and Victoria Secret have been in the game for just as long and most likley for A LOT LONGER

Your link is more of this narrative that became "popular" right about the same time that use of the UK sizing system became popular, popular outside the UK anyway.

That narrative being that "most women are wearing the "wrong size bra" "

Also confidently enough right about the same time, the early ))'s that this narrative started that women in the EU, in general, and the UK in particular were so much more "busty" than women in the rest of the world and in particular women in the US, where teh average for decades, was a C cup, 36C to be precise. No we were suposed to belive that virtually every woman in the UK was at least a D, or DD and everybody and her sister was an LDM clone, H cups, why they were not "rare" AT ALL even though "the eye test" said otherwise. 

That women here in the US for their entire lives have been wearing bras that have 4 inches of "slack" as far as teh band size goes .

Do you have any idea just how "loose" of a fit that would be ?

Think of it like this

You wear size 34 inch waist jeans, not super tight, or even "snug" just fit to the point where you do not need to wear a belt to hold them up  and then you put on a pair of 38 inch waist jeans,  you know GD well that they would be loose to the point of "falling down" if you were not wearing a belt to hold them up.

Now you enter a woman who you say should be wearing a 30 inch band size bra  and she puts on a 34  now before you even consider that that 4 inches represents a greater % of 30 than the 34 in my jean example  do you realize just how loose of a fit a 34 inch band  bra would be on her ?

Two fingers ?

How about an entire hand ?

Now I and I am sure you could find plenty of guys in the US who would say much the same thing, have been taking bras of women for 40 years and taking them bra shopping for well over 30. women from 4'10" to 5'10, from 90 pounds to 190 pounds, from A cups to H cups, natural and enhanced, in a few cases REALLY ENHANCED and almost all of them where wearing bras that would have "passed" that "2 finger test", in anything they were on the tight side, bras (because I looked or bought them) that were 34 t0 38 band size, a FEW 32's, and NO 30's, certainly NO 28's    NONE were "loose" and had an extra 4 inches or for that matter even 2 inches of "slack" like you would would experience in my jeans example.

Christy Canyon 5'7', 125  36DD   

You would have us believe that she has been wearing the wrong size bra for like 50 years now ?? 

In all that time you think she NEVER got "properly fitted" ??

[phonehome1]

I was thinking how a thread about one of the best porn stars ever with an amazing body, fantastic boob job and a face that would launch a thousand ships, became a discussion about bra fitting. All interesting I guess but I think it's not very conducive for keeping things peaceful around here. My $0.02. Anyways, a small gif to remind people why this thread exists. Click it. By the way, Tiffany's birthday is two days from now on the 19th and she will be 49 years old. I still have the issue of Gent Magazine when she was a brand new model at the ripe old age of 19. 

I agree, but it’s also important to determine her proper bra size and educate people.

And happy birthday to her when it comes (I suspect her bra size wasn’t the only thing she told fibs about during her career - chances are she’s older than 49 now).

"Proper" according to WHO ??

She was one of those "girls of the 90's" when EXAGGERATING your bust/breast size was BEYOND common, swapping the bust measurement for rib cage measurement in order to "sound bigger" using CM's rather than inches in order to "sound bigger" quoting astronomical cup sizes that were not even real  XXX, ZZZ etc in order to "sound bigger" We are supposed to believe that she and all those other, women that came along in that time  would not have started claiming to be 28 J's or some other way out there cup size in order to "sound bigger"

How come LDM and the other UK models in the mid 90's did not claim to be 28 or 30 I or J or what ever in order to "sound bigger"    Explain that !!!