[rhinoceros82]

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She was?  Are you saying she was a Toronto **33** before she was discovered?  …Uh, not that I would know anything about Toronto hookers…  

Is there even a difference between being a prostitute and being a porn star?  I dont think so.  

[ROBRAM89]

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She was?  Are you saying she was a Toronto **33** before she was discovered?  …Uh, not that I would know anything about Toronto hookers…  

Is there even a difference between being a prostitute and being a porn star?  I dont think so.  

That's dangerous talk in these parts.  

[rhinoceros82]

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A long time back while working in Canada, Tiffany and I hooked up at a club where I kept her busy for a couple hours. She offered me some good money to marry her so she could come to the states to perform. I asked if I got "congenial" (sp?) visits and she said no, so I said no way.  

Are you serious?  

LOL, are you seriously asking that question?  

lol sorry.  I was just curious about the marriage part.  I made that comment before I read through the entire thread.  But now I see that this Tiffany Towers person seems to be a really deplorable character so I guess its not so unbelievable at all.  

[rhinoceros82]

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 she was a professional prostitute who became a  

She was?  Are you saying she was a Toronto **33** before she was discovered?  …Uh, not that I would know anything about Toronto hookers…  

Is there even a difference between being a prostitute and being a porn star?  I dont think so.  

That's dangerous talk in these parts.  

I didnt mean for it to sound negative.  I dont care if someone is a prostitute or a pornstar.  Thats their choice and their business.  Just because something is illegal doesnt necessarily mean that its a bad thing.  

[Tiggo]

good point rhino.

People are unbelievably SILLY and nauseatingly OXYMORONIC who stand there, with a porno in one hand, watching porn, and writing love letters to their favorite big-bust girl, and then pontificate about the horrible, moral inserpitude of "prostitutes" in hushed tones...

LOL

A rose by any other name, you silly sods...

Or, put another way, what % of marriages in America (and probably a higher % elsewhere in the world) aren't TRULY DEEP DOWN based on the fact that the man provides money (in all its forms, shelter, food, clothing, gifts, etc.) for the  wife?

Think about it, won't you??  

[melonie_charm]

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Is there even a difference between being a prostitute and being a porn star? I dont think so.

Actually, there are extensive legal differences between performing sexual acts with a member of the general public in exchange for direct payment (i.e. **31**), - and performing sexual acts with a fellow actor in a scripted  stage/screen/video production, with no payment taking place between the actors performing sexual acts (but with both being paid 'acting fees' for their performances by the production company).  The former is illegal in most parts of the USA, while the latter is specifically legally protected by the first amendment.

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Just because something is illegal doesnt necessarily mean that its a bad thing.

Ain't that the truth.  This is especially the case for girls on the club feature circuit.  In one part of Nevada, acts of **31** may be 100% legal.  In one part of New Jersey, it may be illegal to show her nipples on stage !  In other cities the spectrum runs from topless only to no taking tips in her cleavage to no thong bottoms - basically making no sense whatsoever !

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A huge portion of the big boob girls are hookers now, and they know I do not agree with that. The big boob business is dying, and they feel that is their only way to make a living. Not that I have a problem with hookers; I could care less if someone wants to be a **33** as long as they are over 18. But when they sit back and deny it, it pisses me off because I know exactly what goes on.

Yes the aspects of 'show business' versus 'sex business' hypocracy linger on.  As discussed in countless other threads and as pointed out by Wendy Whoppers in her 'retirement' interview with St. Stephan, the 'show business' days of huge boobs were already in decline in the late 1990's.  We've arrived at a point in 2004 where, with the possible exception of a tiny handful of the most massively huge boobed Titans whose sheer bust size can convince guys to part with club tips and/or website membership money, if a huge boobed girl wants to earn serious money in this business today it's simply impossible without incorporating sex for money somewhere along the line.  If a girl chooses to carry on without incorporating sex for money, she also usually has to keep her 'day job' (or two or three) and pursue huge boob modeling and performing as a very part time venture which probably doesn't even pay enough to cover the cost of her implants !

[Liam]

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People are unbelievably SILLY and nauseatingly OXYMORONIC who stand there, with a porno in one hand, watching porn, and writing love letters to their favorite big-bust girl, and then pontificate about the horrible, moral inserpitude of "prostitutes" in hushed tones...

Not me, not ever.  I have no problem with prostitutes.  I merely found it interesting, as a piece of trivia, it being suggested here that Tiffany Towers was a prostitute BEFORE she was discovered.  She was 19 when she debuted in Gent.  (I can actually visualize the day I got that issue in the mail.)  If this claim is true, and it’s a big IF, it means she was a very young prostitute indeed, probably a minor forced into it by destitution… (In a place and time I have some familiarity with.)

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Does anybody know if a night with today's Tiffany Towers would be worth $1.000 ?

*squints to make sure that’s a decimal point and not a comma*  Yes it would be worth one dollar.  It would not IMO be worth your plane fare here though.

I’ve just been inspired to go find my Napali video with the Melonie Charm scene..  Or the Score one…  Or…  
Definition of money well spent.  

[stumbleshoe]

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Yes the aspects of 'show business' versus 'sex business' hypocracy linger on.  As discussed in countless other threads and as pointed out by Wendy Whoppers in her 'retirement' interview with St. Stephan, the 'show business' days of huge boobs were already in decline in the late 1990's.  We've arrived at a point in 2004 where, with the possible exception of a tiny handful of the most massively huge boobed Titans whose sheer bust size can convince guys to part with club tips and/or website membership money, if a huge boobed girl wants to earn serious money in this business today it's simply impossible without incorporating sex for money somewhere along the line.  If a girl chooses to carry on without incorporating sex for money, she also usually has to keep her 'day job' (or two or three) and pursue huge boob modeling and performing as a very part time venture which probably doesn't even pay enough to cover the cost of her implants !

I still have always wondered why more ladies don't take the "non-sex" or "breast worship" route though.  To use you as an example Mel, which I hope you don't mind, you danced in a limited region of the country, and I unfortunately never had the pleasure of sseing you live.  But, I'd gladly pay $100 or more an hour (name your price babe ) to meet you somewhere and have a full contact lap dance somewhere.

  No sex involved, just showing some love for those titanic melons you have.  Sure, that route won't earn the $500-$1000 an hour range that a full blown escort would, but I'd be interested in how many web hits, club performances, etc it would take to match that money.
 
  Apologies in advance to anyone who is offended by my forward-ness...in particular Mel, who I have all the respect for in the world (I recall those Charming days )  

[melonie_charm]

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I still have always wondered why more ladies don't take the "non-sex" or "breast worship" route though. To use you as an example Mel, which I hope you don't mind, you danced in a limited region of the country, and I unfortunately never had the pleasure of sseing you live. But, I'd gladly pay $100 or more an hour (name your price babe ) to meet you somewhere and have a full contact lap dance somewhere.

Since I do limit myself to the "non-sex" or "breast worship" route, there is a very good reason that I only travel to limited regions of the country !  It's called gross income less expenses equals net income.  As you pointed out via your offer, unless the girl happens to be Chelsea Charms the amount of money guys are willing to pay for a "non-sex" private session is way less than they would be willing to pay for full blown escort services.  Unfortunately, the plane ticket from NY to SC and the hotel room required to meet with you for a "breast worship" session do cost the same !

This is the reason that I try to limit my road trips to within 300 miles driving distance of my home in NY.  When I do fly to other areas of the country (example Miami, Chicago, LA, Texas) it's because a magazine or video producer or TV producer was covering my travel and accomodation expenses in conjunction with a modeling/video gig, basically leaving me free to hit clubs or meet with fans after the modeling/video gig is over without having to incur extra costs to do so.  Unfortunately, when a magazine or video/TV producer is paying me plus picking up my travel tab, I'm expected to play along with THEIR schedule not my own.  Therefore, if a photo shoot or taping session runs late, I'm expected to blow off whatever other private scheduling commitments I might have made and finish it This does not equate with happy fans whose "private session" I won't be able to show up for!.

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No sex involved, just showing some love for those titanic melons you have. Sure, that route won't earn the $500-$1000 an hour range that a full blown escort would, but I'd be interested in how many web hits, club performances, etc it would take to match that money.

Unfortunately, again unless you happen to be Chelsea Charms the number of huge boob lovers available in a given city who are willing to spend significant amounts of money for a "non-sex" private session don't come close to defraying the airfare and hotel bills necessary for the girl to get there in the first place - not to mention the time spent travelling for which she's getting paid nothing!

In regard to club feature gigs in various cities, today these feature bookings pay just about enough to cover the airfare and hotel expenses necessary to do the gig.  This means that if a girl follows the "non-sex" route that her net earnings from a feature appearance aren't likely to be much higher than if she simply worked in a club close to home and avoided the airfare and hotel expenses.  While I don't want to speak for any other huge boob girls, it is interesting to note that BB Gunns chose to dance at a particular club in Philly on a regular basis, that a long list of girls choose to work at a particular club in Vegas on a regular basis, etc.  IMHO this is simply a choice to maximize net income, where the girl can drive to the local club from her home and therefore avoid additional expenses for which there simply are no longer enough "paying customers" to cover !
 
 

[Tiggo]

I don't want to interrupt this great dialogue going on here, but here's just a quick peek at Tiffany Towers, a vidcap from "Shane and Seymour Mount Tiffany".

She has one of cutest smiles ever!!

Who would have thought that a "woman of the night" could be so cute and charming!!

   

[stumbleshoe]

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I still have always wondered why more ladies don't take the "non-sex" or "breast worship" route though. To use you as an example Mel, which I hope you don't mind, you danced in a limited region of the country, and I unfortunately never had the pleasure of sseing you live. But, I'd gladly pay $100 or more an hour (name your price babe ) to meet you somewhere and have a full contact lap dance somewhere.

Since I do limit myself to the "non-sex" or "breast worship" route, there is a very good reason that I only travel to limited regions of the country !  It's called gross income less expenses equals net income.  As you pointed out via your offer, unless the girl happens to be Chelsea Charms the amount of money guys are willing to pay for a "non-sex" private session is way less than they would be willing to pay for full blown escort services.  Unfortunately, the plane ticket from NY to SC and the hotel room required to meet with you for a "breast worship" session do cost the same !

Oh, sweetie no - I travel to YOU and get my own room in NYC.  I rarely EVER have had someone travel to SC (as most gals don't travel here anyway).  I'd never expect anyone to travel to me for peanuts because you're right - that wouldn't add up.

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This is the reason that I try to limit my road trips to within 300 miles driving distance of my home in NY.  When I do fly to other areas of the country (example Miami, Chicago, LA, Texas) it's because a magazine or video producer or TV producer was covering my travel and accomodation expenses in conjunction with a modeling/video gig, basically leaving me free to hit clubs or meet with fans after the modeling/video gig is over without having to incur extra costs to do so.  Unfortunately, when a magazine or video/TV producer is paying me plus picking up my travel tab, I'm expected to play along with THEIR schedule not my own.  Therefore, if a photo shoot or taping session runs late, I'm expected to blow off whatever other private scheduling commitments I might have made and finish it This does not equate with happy fans whose "private session" I won't be able to show up for!.

Yes - I got "rescheduled" once for a video shoot when meeting someone in Vegas.  

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In regard to club feature gigs in various cities, today these feature bookings pay just about enough to cover the airfare and hotel expenses necessary to do the gig.  This means that if a girl follows the "non-sex" route that her net earnings from a feature appearance aren't likely to be much higher than if she simply worked in a club close to home and avoided the airfare and hotel expenses.  While I don't want to speak for any other huge boob girls, it is interesting to note that BB Gunns chose to dance at a particular club in Philly on a regular basis, that a long list of girls choose to work at a particular club in Vegas on a regular basis, etc.  IMHO this is simply a choice to maximize net income, where the girl can drive to the local club from her home and therefore avoid additional expenses for which there simply are no longer enough "paying customers" to cover !

Which is why I fly/drive to surrounding areas to see these ladies and why I encourage others to do so - I'm always hitting Atlanta, and I may be headed to Miami soon.  I even flew to WI once to catch Sarenna Lee at a club - stayed for all three shows, got a ton of polaroids, and had her sign my video collection of her.  

If we (the fans) don't get out and show support, there won't be any more big boobed acts to see.

Some folks don't have the free time I do, but dang it - I love boobs and make the free time

Thanks Mel!

PS The local club sucks, I even tried bribing the owner to schedule more gals (although Chelsea is coming next spring).  However, those same idiots have a midget act (sorry little people) for tonight. *sigh*

   

[Tiggo]

Hey stumbleshoe, are you in/near Colombia?

If so, do you frequent the Bottom's Up Club??

If so, did you see Chelsea C. there in the fall of 1999?

Or if these question are too personal, ignore this.....

Rule #9:  You do not talk about BEArchive.
Rule #10:  YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT BEARCHIVE.

(see the site issues forum for explanation)

   

[stumbleshoe]

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Hey stumbleshoe, are you in/near Colombia?

I'm down in the Looooow-country

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If so, do you frequent the Bottom's Up Club??

If so, did you see Chelsea C. there in the fall of 1999?

Yes, no - was dating a dancer back then (don't ask - sigh)

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Or if these question are too personal, ignore this.....

Rule #9:  You do not talk about BEArchive.
Rule #10:  YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT BEARCHIVE.

(see the site issues forum for explanation)

   

No problem - you should hang out in ATL and overhear guys talking about TER or ASPD at the Pink Pony...gee thanks guys.
 

[Tiggo]

Thanks for answering the questions, I was just going to say that if you saw Chelsea at Bottum's Up, I might have talked with you that night.... I drove out (5 hours) just to see the legendary boobs and talked with some cool guy about all aspects of the huge-tit industry for about 10 minutes before Chelsea took the stage....

Musta been another huge-boob fan....

ATL is the greatest city on Earth, btw...

As Ludacris once said, "If they ever talk bad about the Dirty South, whatchoo gon do?  Act a fool!"

(I know, I know... I'm too white to talk like that... but it is the internet... YOU don't know that.... LOL  )
 

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