Some posts to this thread have pushed it over the line in terms of what's acceptable here... a reasonable quantity of hostility in disagreements is fine... spewing derisive abuse as a matter of policy is not. Thus, this thread gets closed... surely to fall off the front page of this forum as a result. Everyone involved would do well to remember the consequences of these 'over-the-line' actions the next time they feel like ripping someone a new one in some foul-mouthed and totally objectionable manner. Such activities are NOT what the forums are provided for.