[Arc]

Not for the hell of it, bump (with really obscure reference).

"MmmAaargh!  Leonard, you svengali!"

 

[Palomine]

All these marvellous TOS pix aside, am I the only one here who thinks that NONE of the new ST shows (from TNG onward) have even a fraction of the charm and humor as did TOS?

PS Sheb: I've no doubt amassed many pix of Gates McFadden over the years (the ST Fakes NG is along my usual route). I had a brief perusal of the small fraction that I've sorted into a GF folder and didn't see anything that struck me as immedately morphwhile. If I do later, I'll try to remember to let you know (I've still never gotten around to making a sorting Applescript and am now waiting for Automator in OSX 10.4 so that I can hopefully do so without scripting).  

[Angelus]

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All these marvellous TOS pix aside, am I the only one here who thinks that NONE of the new ST shows (from TNG onward) have even a fraction of the charm and humor as did TOS?

PS Sheb: I've no doubt amassed many pix of Gates McFadden over the years (the ST Fakes NG is along my usual route). I had a brief perusal of the small fraction that I've sorted into a GF folder and didn't see anything that struck me as immedately morphwhile. If I do later, I'll try to remember to let you know (I've still never gotten around to making a sorting Applescript and am now waiting for Automator in OSX 10.4 so that I can hopefully do so without scripting).  

TNG had it's moments.  "I am NOT a merry man!" and "Delicious... a warrior's drink!" comes to mind.

I never watched DS9 all that much, but one of the more lighthearted episodes was the Tribbles one - which of course was a callback to DS9.

I think the problem is, "Hollywood" thinks that sci-fi geeks want their action and boobs with no humor - when Buffy and Angel proved, that's simply not the case.

Of course, Buffy and Angel skewed a lot more towards females than men.

 

[Catch22]

It's hard to top the real McCoy (no pun will be permitted), especially in the charm department.

All I ever hoped for was to see the dream continue. That and to see Captain Kirk die.  My dreams are all fulfilled.

[Unicron]

Myself, I allways liked DS9 best, had its moments on the comedy but edged towards darkness.

Speaking of DS9, and realising it's a bad quality pic but...  

[rtpoe]

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All these marvellous TOS pix aside, am I the only one here who thinks that NONE of the new ST shows (from TNG onward) have even a fraction of the charm and humor as did TOS?

I have a suspicion that with TOS, they were just out to entertain. The subsequent series had to deal with all the Trekkie, Trekker, and fanboy baggage and got wrapped up in thinking they had some sort of Artistic Value And Relevance. This, of course, drained all the lightness and fun out of them.

rtpoe

[Palomine]

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All these marvellous TOS pix aside, am I the only one here who thinks that NONE of the new ST shows (from TNG onward) have even a fraction of the charm and humor as did TOS?

I have a suspicion that with TOS, they were just out to entertain. The subsequent series had to deal with all the Trekkie, Trekker, and fanboy baggage and got wrapped up in thinking they had some sort of Artistic Value And Relevance. This, of course, drained all the lightness and fun out of them.

rtpoe  

So true, and nicely put.

[evilkirk]

Don't overlook the fabulous Uhura.  

[Arc]

Uhura later.  Green lady now.

 

[AgentDee]

FYI they are bringing back the green skined slave women on the new Enterprise.  Bobbie Sue Luther from Junkyard wars plays one of em.  here is a pic of her i found IN character enjoy

   

[Palomine]

Beautiful!!!

[skijumper]

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I have a suspicion that with TOS, they were just out to entertain. The subsequent series had to deal with all the Trekkie, Trekker, and fanboy baggage and got wrapped up in thinking they had some sort of Artistic Value And Relevance. This, of course, drained all the lightness and fun out of them.

I disagree - I think the original series often /attempted/ to be deep and serious and pretentious, its just that the way that the scripts were written was often too close to the written scifi traditions of the time, and consequently TOS often ended up with a disjointed sequence of wildly different episodes whose ideas didn't really fit the format and couldn't really be done justice as one episiode of a cast-based series. It was like someone had taken a stack of Twilight Zone "what-if?" scripts and then tried to rewrite them to fit a constant cast living in a spaceship. With each episiode being that self-contained, it's difficult not to end up with something that feels like Red Dwarf..).
As a result, the more deep and portentious the writers attempted to be, the more it looked like a piece of frivolous campy fun. Some writer tries to make some point about social structures and relative ethical values and it ends up as Kirk and Spock running around in Roman gladiator costumes or dressed up as nazis or Chicago gangsters, like a couple of [censored] playing cowboys and indians.
The "Spock's Brain" episode probably could have been a creepy piece of scifi on paper, but nowadays a lot of people seem to think that it's hilarious.
I think it's partly "B movie" syndrome, a lot of people think that some of those old horror movies were written as comedy fluff, but actually some of them were intended to be very serious arty films, they just didn't have the budget to pull it off.

By contrast, I thought that TNG had less of a social agenda - in TOS, Earth seems to be a benevolent communist paradise   where all your needs are met by the state and nobody seems to be on a wage, and people who trade goods and services for money usually seem to be criminals or living in primitive cultures. That seems to be more relaxed under TNG and DS9 (yaay Ferengi!). I think DS9 went too far to the other extreme in writing story arcs, though.  

back on topic: Here's an ancient scruffy morph of Jazdia Dax being cuddled by Kira. Not great, but with a certain charm. I like where the lighting guy put the shadow of Kira's face .  

[skijumper]

This one's a straight tv capture, not a morph, but I still think it's cool (cue inevitable "hey, watch where you point that thing" comments).
PS there must be some very morphable pics from the ST-DS9 parallel universe episodes, where the gals' meany alter egos were strutting about in black leather being pervy (Kira does her version of the "evil Willow" thang). But I don't have any. Someone here might have the DVD?  

[evilkirk]

Kirk charms the lovely Rayna in 'Requiem for Methusula."  

[Catch22]

Coyote did a perfect morph of the girl with the original phaser. In fact, he did her two ways. Straight BE and a muscle morph. What was her name? Was it Sherri Jackson?