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Re: Miosotis - Spectacularly Huge Breasted Ebony Goddess MERGED
« Reply #195 on: September 03, 2007, 11:27:15 AM »
The answer to the OP's original question is simple, race, but it has been fun reading posters dance around the subject.

Yes, one can argue XYZ about the site she is on, but that hasn't stopped other models who have only appeared on sites with pictures that cannot be posted here from becoming a sensation.  One could also argue that yes, she doesn't always look she is comfortable in her shoots, but I could easily point to several other popular models on this site who don't always look excited in their shoots.

In the end all either of those two arguments is doing is dancing around the truth. It comes down to race and the fact that a black model of equal beauty as a white or Asian counterpart will not appeal to as broad a base of consumers. The content producers know it which is why you don't see many black models except for in niche genres that focus on ethnicity. Just look to this forum as an example and see how many women of color ever get mentioned, a disproportionate number considering how many are in the industry.

Notice I said race and not racism, big difference, although one could argue that hundreds of years of racism has impacted how race is used to quantify beauty even by those who would not typically be labeled as racist.

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Re: Miosotis - Spectacularly Huge Breasted Ebony Goddess MERGED
« Reply #196 on: September 03, 2007, 11:55:51 AM »
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The answer to the OP's original question is simple, race, but it has been fun reading posters dance around the subject.

Yes, one can argue XYZ about the site she is on, but that hasn't stopped other models who have only appeared on sites with pictures that cannot be posted here from becoming a sensation.  One could also argue that yes, she doesn't always look she is comfortable in her shoots, but I could easily point to several other popular models on this site who don't always look excited in their shoots.

In the end all either of those two arguments is doing is dancing around the truth. It comes down to race and the fact that a black model of equal beauty as a white or Asian counterpart will not appeal to as broad a base of consumers. The content producers know it which is why you don't see many black models except for in niche genres that focus on ethnicity. Just look to this forum as an example and see how many women of color ever get mentioned, a disproportionate number considering how many are in the industry.

Notice I said race and not racism, big difference, although one could argue that hundreds of years of racism has impacted how race is used to quantify beauty even by those who would not typically be labeled as racist.




You may or may not be right, but your implication that Miosotis is of 'equal beauty' to other (more popular/successful) models is simply one man's opinion, since there's no empirical/objective way to measure such a thing. Without that proof, your conclusion (that racial preferences play a role in her relative professional standing or lack thereof) is also simply opinion.

IMO, she's not quite as aesthetically pleasing as some other/more popular models. This causes me to be less interested in her. Neither fact has anything to do with her race or the color of her skin. This is not me being PC... it's just me expressing my opinion candidly as you have yours. No dancing required.

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« Reply #197 on: September 03, 2007, 12:42:27 PM »
Actually there is an empirical way of measuring beauty and it is based on symmetries and proportions. It has been used for hundreds of years and there are a number of modern day studies on it.

I wasn't saying she should be as popular as some of the most popular models on this site. I was stating that in the category of models that she is in regardless of where you categorize her, she goes basically unmentioned in comparison to her counterparts. And there are certainly models of lesser beauty mentioned here far more often than her.

My proof that race plays a factor in this is consumer sales, for a fact black models in general do not sell as well as white or Asian models, ask any distributor. Or like I said, just stroll through the pages of this forum and see how many black models are mentioned.

In terms of your aesthetic opinion have you ever done a hard evaluation of the factors that have gone into forming that opinion? Probably not, as most people don't since they just go with what values and ideas life events have allowed them to form.

If you were not in an environment where Miosotis' features were considered beautiful, the odds of you finding her aesthetically pleasing go down considerably, which is not unusual for people as very few are every in environments where they learn to appreciate black features.

The really scary part is that this is not just limited to white people, it affects black people as well. In general black beauty is something the media does not promote as they are marketing to a larger population and that population in general has negative feelings about black people.

And that takes us to the heart of the whole reason why black models are not as commercially successful as white models. It also explains why the few who do achieve large commercial success generally have European features.

In fact with some of the most popular models, change the skin color and they'd look as white as any other white person. Change Miosotis' skin color and you would think she was a white person that looked black which brings us back to aesthetics and the impact of race on them.

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Re: Miosotis - Spectacularly Huge Breasted Ebony Goddess MERGED
« Reply #198 on: September 03, 2007, 02:52:47 PM »
One more opinion: Miosotis is a pretty girl, she has a very attractive figure overall, and she obviously has incredible breasts. For me, the main explanation for her limited success is her personality/facial expressions. While race is undoubtedly a factor in the breadth of her appeal, girls like Sammie Black and Sylvia McFarland proved that black girls can be, and are, widely appreciated. If Miosotis could develop the winning smile that suggests playfulness and approachability, I think her popularity would grow.

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« Reply #199 on: September 04, 2007, 09:23:05 AM »
Yes I too would like to think some of the blame is for controllable factors (lack of model enthusiasm, lack of exposure, lack of variety, lack of SPOKEN VIDEO [save for a rare sentence in Spanish] no writings from the model and no biography).  While we all need to examine our own racism and work on that, it is also unfair to paint with a brush so broadly as to say a model can be totally and hopelessly trapped by racism.  Not in this century.  Puh-leeze.

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« Reply #200 on: September 04, 2007, 11:59:06 AM »
i think its just a matter of tastes.  miositis isnt just big, she's huuuge.  on top of that her right boob is probably a triple L and her left boob a double N. if youre not into abnormally huge then youre probably not into her.  next as some have mentioned, is her race.  in general black models arent as popular in north america as white or asian models.
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Re: Miosotis - Spectacularly Huge Breasted Ebony Goddess MERGED
« Reply #201 on: September 04, 2007, 01:21:12 PM »
It has nothing to do with racism. Anyone who thinks it does, is purely an idiot. (No offense)

She's just not that attractive. She's got ridiculously HUGE tits, but they aren't very well shaped, they don't really compliment her body. She looks like someone went crazy and morphed her into some ridiculous size.

Aside from the oddly huge breasts, the rest of her body isn't all that. She's neat to look at sometimes, in some bikini shots she looks sexy, but overall she's just not very attractive even for the super big breast fetish.

When there are SO many other nice options out there, someone like her won't be as popular because she's just not as well put together as others.

Her skin color means nothing to 99% of the big breast fans out there. It's actually her breasts and overall appearance that holds her back, not her race.
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« Reply #202 on: September 04, 2007, 05:25:01 PM »
y'all are crazy
her boobs aren't that differently-sized and are in fact very nicely-shaped, esp. given her size. She's a marvel, frankly. I have already confessed my attractions lean towards whites and asians but not always. Miosotis is no halley berry, thank goodness. She has classically african features. AND she happens to be quite beautiful. The video I've seen of her where she loosens up shows a glimpse of a playful and pleasant person. Willing. Cooperative. Relaxed. I'll also say, she looks incredible in clothing too..

re her bored expression, i read that as resignation plain and simple - and maybe even humility though that is laughable

whether she is shy by nature or not, how could a person not have shyness (modesty) thrust upon them with breasts that large and obvious ("freakish" i guess some would say, but whatever).

Seems just part of a "yeah I know... yes I KNOW..." relationship she has with the world, via her breasts.
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« Reply #203 on: September 05, 2007, 01:09:33 AM »
I think you and others are correct...if mio was white and blond and english she would be more popular...she at the piont now where someone has to set up a web site for her[aka jenny hill,sapphire]give her direction and a create good video theme for her....wheres score?????...why cant they find her but they never found tina small either....also shes stuck at the guest model level which is limiting by nature....she doesnt speak english and isnt in the U.S or europe...my bet she doesnt know a thing about how to launch a website for herself in english no less...Ever guy on forum has is preferences in women if a white guy like white women okay ...if a black guy likes black women okay...if theres any racism involved its the industry is where its located...theyll force her to do porn rightaway aka bang bros style...shell be used and abused and quit the whole biz for good and well never she her again...the only outcome is for her to have her own website like nadine and melina by the same guy who does them otherwise shell be gone

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Re: Miosotis - Spectacularly Huge Breasted Ebony Goddess MERGED
« Reply #204 on: September 05, 2007, 08:34:22 AM »
Id like to state that latest Miosotis photoset "Back to Africa" is awesome. Really, really awesome. Erotic as hell  
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« Reply #205 on: September 05, 2007, 11:53:41 AM »
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It has nothing to do with racism. Anyone who thinks it does, is purely an idiot. (No offense)

She's just not that attractive. She's got ridiculously HUGE tits, but they aren't very well shaped, they don't really compliment her body. She looks like someone went crazy and morphed her into some ridiculous size....

Her skin color means nothing to 99% of the big breast fans out there. It's actually her breasts and overall appearance that holds her back, not her race.


Are you sure you are supposed to be at this site? This is a site devoted to women with breasts of a "ridiculous", "oddly huge" size, after all

That said, I rather think you are contradicting yourself. On the one hand you say that racism has nothing to do with the relative low buzz around Mio's career, and then in the very next sentence you say, "Oh, she's just not that attractive", and then that it's "her breasts and overall appearance" that are holding her back, not her race. Well, her race is a component of her "overall appearance", isn't it? As a matter of fact, to many many people raised in North America, and especially in the United States (because of our peculiar, tortured history of race relations), race is indeed the primary component of a person's "overall appearance".  

If you truly have a "super big breast" fetish, then Miosotis should logically be just about top of the charts for you, because if anyone in the world could be described as having "super big breasts", then it's her.
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« Reply #206 on: September 05, 2007, 12:15:09 PM »
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While we all need to examine our own racism and work on that, it is also unfair to paint with a brush so broadly as to say a model can be totally and hopelessly trapped by racism.


If the reason why she isn't higher on many people's radars is solely due to racism, how in the world could she have a career in the first place? If it is true that no one would pay any money to see a black woman with huge boobs model for them, then obviously she and any other woman of her race/proportions would be on the dole...and we all know that that ain't true

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Yes I too would like to think some of the blame is for controllable factors (lack of model enthusiasm, lack of exposure, lack of variety, lack of SPOKEN VIDEO [save for a rare sentence in Spanish] no writings from the model and no biography).


I think these are closer to the mark, although I don't think a "lack of model enthusiasm" ever held Anna Ohura (who seems to grimace much more than she ever smiles in her photoshoots/videos) back that much.
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Re: Miosotis - Spectacularly Huge Breasted Ebony Goddess MERGED
« Reply #207 on: September 05, 2007, 12:54:15 PM »
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i think its just a matter of tastes.  miositis isnt just big, she's huuuge.  on top of that her right boob is probably a triple L and her left boob a double N.


Ummm...so? Are you saying that if both her boobs were the exact same size (which is not usually the case in any woman -- prcatically every woman has one boob slightly bigger than the other) that she would be more popular?
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« Reply #208 on: September 05, 2007, 06:25:51 PM »
The left boob are traditionally larger than the right one dued to the location of the heart. Vascularity has about a 3% margin for size. That being said it doesn't applied to muscle of the right arm versus left arm, if your right handed. I have never met any woman that have an equal size breast, and of all of them the one with fake implants comes closest. My face is too god damn close to the breast to even tell which is bigger, and I tend to push both together to make even one bigger one anyway.
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« Reply #209 on: September 05, 2007, 07:21:41 PM »
I agree with Palomine on the race issue, there is no objective ways to identify a group prejudice toward any model with so little information. However the moment you bring up the race card immediately identify your prejudice on racism. This doesn't mean that you think that it's a race issue, but that you think it's a race issue with the group. Prejudging others to dance around the race card, when the question may not even be in their mind. I will be honest and say that the race issue would be brought up, enter my mind when the original post was enter under the subject heading "Why isn't Miosotis a bigger sensation?"

I haven't heard anyone say, "no way I fuck Miosotis, she's B...B...Black!" You would have to be insanely racist to not want to hit it! or possibly gay for the most part, unless you had an extreme past with someone with huger than life breast impaled you within inches of your life.
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