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Re: cherri's LAP-band surgery
« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2007, 08:59:52 AM »
Thanks R&H and Sandy!    And Pedonbio, yeah, laparoscopy is the shiznit!

So yesterday cherri went in for her post-up checkup.  Everything checked out, she got the nod to resume swimming and add mushy foods to her diet.  Scars are healing nicely, the doc said she could start using Mederma, silicone strips, vitamin E and the like.  We subsequently discovered that finding these things at the local SuperTarget is more challenging than we expected.  Lucked out on the Mederma, but not the others.  Looks like a trip to Whole Foods will be in our near future.

One curious thing is that the whole shoulder pain thing has been absent for some time now, but yesterday it hit her just before her visit.  Not unusual for it to happen this far out, but we thought it was odd that it would suddenly reappear.  Not worrisome, just odd.

She goes for her first fill in 4 weeks' time.  What's interesting is that apparently patients experience more trepidation when going for the first fill than with the original surgery.  Unnecessarily so.

As far as how noticeable the device is, she says that she really only notices the port now.  The doc said that even the firmness where the port is located will soften up somewhat.

As an aside, I've already started logging/charting her weight loss.  Rather than going the Excel route, I've written a ploticus script (using the chron prefab).  Only have 2 datapoints so far, so the bar chart isn't all that interesting yet.  

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Re: cherri's LAP-band surgery
« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2007, 09:10:46 AM »
you and your silly linux hijinks.... good to hear cherri is okay
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Re: cherri's LAP-band surgery
« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2007, 03:26:05 AM »
Ahh, she's at the baby food stage! I never thought mashed carrots could taste so good! Mmmmmm, Good!
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Re: cherri's LAP-band surgery
« Reply #18 on: October 15, 2007, 12:40:40 PM »
Wow, I fall off the face of the earth for a few minutes, and look what happens. I'm so glad to hear cherri's surgery went well, and am looking forward to hearing from her again! A member of my family had this procedure done a couple of years ago and it changed her life. (me, I deal with my weight the old-fashioned way - I whine about it. ) Best wishes!!

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Re: cherri's LAP-band surgery
« Reply #19 on: October 23, 2007, 02:00:50 PM »
Thanks HG, I just read your post to cherri.  

I suppose an update is in order.  Without getting into specifics, I can tell you that cherri is already about halfway to her goal.  I say 'about' because the goal may change, the closer she gets to it.

I'm still diligently charting the data and graphing it every weekend.  Oh, and taking snaps for posterity.  

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Re: cherri's LAP-band surgery
« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2008, 07:00:01 PM »
Time for a long overdue update.

cherri's weight's been fluctuating for the past month or two, so this past Friday she went in for another fill.

Before fill:  2.75cc
After fill:  3.00cc

Kind of amusing talking about fractions of a CC when we're used to talking about CCs in the thousands for breast implants.  

After we had a chat with the staff, they said she should have probably come in at least a month ago for a fill.  When it starts to plateau or yo-yo, that's a sign.  But she's been dealing with the other issues relating to her implants, and in so doing has had to take it easy, stop exercising, etc.

Somewhat surprising is that since yesterday she's already lost 3 lbs.  I know this is nothing to get excited about, as the weight can fluctuate.  Which is why I only mark down her weight on Saturdays.

The one notable side effect of getting a fill is that it causes her to be sensitive to consuming anything, even fluids.  In particular, there's lots of burping.  Which is a curious phenomenon.  Sip some water, burp for an hour.  

Still been recording her weight every week and charting it.  However, I've not been taking any regular pics in months now.  Well, there are the post-augmentation pics, but those have a different focus.

Oh, somewhat related:  last month she got to a weight which marks the halfway point to her goal.  

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Re: cherri's LAP-band surgery
« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2008, 03:40:30 PM »
Sounds great! Good luck with the rest!
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And all the leaves on the trees are falling
To the sound of the breezes that blow...

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Re: cherri's LAP-band surgery
« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2008, 04:46:02 AM »
Check this:

As of the day she got her most recent fill, she's lost 10 lbs!  

We both expect that to taper off soon.  Obviously that's not sustainable.  At least not if she's to keep healthy.  

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Re: cherri's LAP-band surgery
« Reply #23 on: February 12, 2008, 05:56:40 PM »
I just happened to notice Sloganizer come up with this gem in one of my recent posts:



Heh.  

(I seem to be having trouble embedding the imagine inline, so you may have to clicky.)

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Re: cherri's LAP-band surgery
« Reply #24 on: March 06, 2008, 06:39:28 PM »
Due to the various issues cherri has had with trying to eat or even drink the most basic of basics (a sip of water) or even to get a decent night's **82** without choking on her own saliva, she went back on Feb 25 to get a wee bit of saline removed from her band.

She'd lost something like 17 lbs from Feb 1 to Feb 25.

The amount removed was something like 0.125cc.

It may not seem like much, but it made a noticeable difference.

She still has the occasional moment when food triggers an unfortunate reaction.  Like this morning.  Trying to drink soup broth.  But on the whole, things are good.

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Re: cherri's LAP-band surgery
« Reply #25 on: August 27, 2011, 12:44:49 AM »
After going through this thread and refreshing my memory, I'm uncertain whether I've missed any updates here regarding cherri's band.

It's quite possible/probable that the last fill noted above was her last fill in a while.

Since that time (or since the last fill, if the one above isn't that one), a couple things have happened.

First, cherri's weight got into the low 170's. She never managed to break 170. Her weight has fluctuated since then.

It been a weird situation. You want to eat healthy. But healthy foods wouldn't play nicely. So you have to eat crap foods, like potato chips (known as 'sliders' in the LAP-band community, because they 'slide' on down when you eat them, unlike healthy foods), which is exactly the wrong thing to eat. But you gotta eat *something*.

On top of that, cherri would also experience poor, choking sleeps. Like about 1-3 times, every 3-6 weeks. As in, the band would be so tight that the saliva we all generate and subsequently swallow while we **82**, couldn't get past her band, so it would back up, go down her trachea, and trigger a round of coughing. And that goes on either all night or at least for a few hours until she gets up to sit at the computer till things settle down. Many times she would try to **82** on the couch, so that I would be able to get a quiet **82**. That, and the arms of the couch have just the right incline to help things drain better.

We couldn't figure out what was causing the nighttime coughing fits. The catalyst for the band holding things up, I mean. She thought that it might have been related to her period. Or maybe eating too late. Or having a late evening beer.

For some months now, I'd been pushing her to get her band drained. Completely. It's bothering me a lot that she's willing to suffer so much with this to get to where she wants to be, or perhaps more accurately, to avoid going back to where she was. We would discuss it. She would tell me how afraid she was of going back to the way things were, going back to the ravenous, insatiable hunger (which was one of her pre-surgery complaints).

Mornings she couldn't really eat (or drink) anything. Her appetite would typically come on mid-afternoon, and she would eat what she could. It might not be a whole lot, but that was pretty much it, her one full meal for the day. At least, typically. See note further below.

Recently she finally agreed to make an appointment with the LAP-band clinic to get it completely drained. When she went to her appointment, she gave them the background, and they told her she should have come in months (years) sooner. Long story short, they drained out a net volume of 0.25cc. I don't recall whether they said she was at 2.25cc and they re-filled her to 2.00cc, or she was at 2.00cc and they re-filled her to 1.75cc. I think it was the former. She's napping on the couch next to me at the moment, else I'd ask her.

She had the usual post-fill process of limiting her intake to fluids for the first bit of time. Man, I can't even remember whether it was 24 hours or 48 hours or what.

But the big thing is that she hasn't had any nightly choking fits since her last adjustment. It's been less than a month, but it's looking promising.

I'm admittedly having the "man, we should have done this a long time ago" feeling. Thing is, we both had done the thinking through of what was going on:

- one symptom was that she would have nights where she could eat ANYTHING, as if she never had the band - logical conclusion: band needs to be tightened up
- another symptom was that she would have nights where she would lose **82**, choking on her own saliva because it couldn't pass the band - logical conclusion: band needs to be loosened up

I should mention that before her latest adjustment, she also had problems most mornings **94** anything. Cold fluids were particularly bad, but things like coffee would just tend to sit there.

So what do you do when you have conflicting logic (band should be tightened vs band should be loosened)?

Calling the clinic wasn't the most approachable option. Trying to get through was always a challenge; at best you could leave a message to have someone call you back to make an appointment to a) come in for an info session, b) come in for a pre-op consult, c) come in for a band fill/drain. There was no option for anything else, such as "wtf is going on here? please advise". There was no way to know that she would get the consult she wanted, as soon as she requested they drain it completely.

Oh yeah, she was also (re)given the do's and don'ts of what to eat after a fill. It's good to have that refresher.

It's been good so far. I still think we might need to spend some time changing habits, because of the whole "sliders are easy, mmkay?" issue.

Somewhat related, but her knees have gotten worse. She got a Cortisone short recently for her 'bad' knee, and subsequently her 'good' knee popped while in a seated martial art position, and has been clicky/clunky ever since. She just recently got a Cortisone shot in that knee as well. So the treadmill/elliptical is not an option for the foreseeable future.

Side note: her fill part has pretty much blended in with the landscape. It used to bother her early on, being a bit pokey outy, but I don't think it's bothered her in quite some time now.

She's still a fab cook as far as I'm concerned. She'll take care of my need to eat, even if she's not interested for herself.

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Re: cherri's LAP-band surgery
« Reply #26 on: August 27, 2011, 03:27:29 AM »
Serves me right for not following this for four years.  Cherry's story reminds me that those of us who do not already suffer from what I call "systemic entropy" (knees, ouch -- my father just had knee surgery) should honor the gift we have while we still have it.  In my own case, I'm forced to conclude that if it's nothing thyroidal, maybe it's something quite simple, something quite approachable so long as I don't forfeit muscle mass along the way.  My first girlfriend struggles with her body in a way that reminds me of Cherry.  Thank you for updating.  I no longer fear hunger, but hunger, it is a bitch.

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Re: cherri's LAP-band surgery
« Reply #27 on: August 28, 2011, 09:46:53 AM »
In all fairness, cherri's knees have had their share of abuse unrelated to any weight gain.

She used to be VERY active in sports: netball, rugby, cricket, basketball... and at least one triathlon.

She's had a few discussions regarding her knees over the past handful of years. One sports injury specialty clinic, the doctor/surgeon told her she needed to cut back on her gardening. Err, what gardening? She clarified and said she used to play a lot of sports. Mm-hmm, yeah, cut back on the gardening. ::)

Recently got a new family doc (long overdue since the move). She discussed her knees with him. He told her her knees looked like those of a football player. Ding, we have a winner! He even broached the subject (read: tested the waters) regarding partial knee replacement surgery, and she's completely fine with that. But, that's the last step: first, Cortisone shots, then knee surgery to see what, if anything, they can clean up / repair. Finally, partial knee replacement.

We did learn from the first consult with the sports injury doc that for every pound overweight, that going up/down stairs it's like having an additional 3 (4?) pounds on the knee. So one of his early recommendations was to lose weight. All part of the "This is the House that Jack Built" linear dependency or "There's a Hole in the Bucket" circular dependency fun.

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