[Hugeboobfan]

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Q_BE said:
In all ways, I am a conservative, because I see that moral degradation leads to social degradation, and it is on that basis that I seek to supplicate this nation to God's guidance and wisdom, just as the Founding Fathers did. Trusting in His absolute and perfect guidance, freedom will conquer tyranny and terrorism, for God will not be mocked.

Yikes.  You can believe whatever you want, but kindly leave your god out of my affairs.

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Conservatism is the last shining lamp on a hill that calls Americans to remember their heritage and fight for truth, justice, and the American way. Our heroes fight for us; let us fight for ourselves, for our children and grandchildren. Let us not bequeath to them freedoms lost and dreams shattered. The American people, as a whole, are exceptional, and they will prove so again. Given life, liberty, and the ability to pursue happiness, America will prove its greatness once again as the last, best hope of man on earth.

Nationalism feels good, doesn't it?

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Q-"I pledge allegiance to the flag
of the United States of America.
And to the Republic, for which it stands,
one nation, under God, indivisible,
with liberty and justice for all."-BE

I prefer the original, pre-1954 version.  

[pedonbio]

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Q_BE said:
The only threat Sarah Palin poses is to liberals, socialists, terrorists, and dictators.

 

Q, go back to 2000 and think whether you would have said the same thing about Bush. So far he's destroyed our national moral authority, our military, and the economy.

He hasn't done any damage at all to Iran or North Korea, or for that matter, any of the serious problems we faced in 2000. He's a worthless cokehead. She's just worthless.

[onionwriter]

Yikes, some of the posts on here just scare me.

If you want patriotic, terrorist cred, I was in New York on 911, in the Bronx.

Palin? NO!

[mastert]

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Q_BE said:


It is on that basis, and not any other, upon which I will be voting for candidates and causes. In all ways, I am a conservative, because I see that moral degradation leads to social degradation, and it is on that basis that I seek to supplicate this nation to God's guidance and wisdom, just as the Founding Fathers did. Trusting in His absolute and perfect guidance, freedom will conquer tyranny and terrorism, for God will not be mocked.
 
"-BE

WWGCD? What Would George Carlin Do?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdR7vVK0o7w&feature=related

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Q_BE said:

Conservatism is the last shining lamp on a hill that calls Americans to remember their heritage and fight for truth, justice, and the American way. Our heroes fight for us; let us fight for ourselves, for our children and grandchildren.

"-BE

And progressives, er, I mean liberals don't???

Conservatives do a lot of reflecting and not enough forethinking




I saw a great bumper sticker today

Don't steal, government hates competition

[3deroticer]

I agree with Q_Bee on capitalism and communism, and I am not looking forward to the republican president that wish to nationalize our banking and mortgages of the peoples home.

McCain has voted 90% of Bush doctrine and it got us bigger debt, a failed diplomacy for peace, corporates welfare system, failed national security, and disregard the constitution in keeping our democracy intact. Even communism wasn't this bad! At least that's what the former Ruskie are saying in this country.

McCain wants to put our social security into the the stock market as a solution to save Wall Street. One way or another under Bush/McCain they want the people to pay for the greed in Wall Street.

[3deroticer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BrZjANUhx0

Palin preparing for her first speech!

[mofoapoo]

A conservative view is fine...but if you believe that the republican party has represented that view for the past...A lot of years (I can't even estimate) then you are just blind.

Palin has had more corruption and lies exposed to her in the last month than Obama or Biden have had combined.  The fact taht she hides from the media worries me too.

But it's funny when i hear the communism argument.  It certainly is funny how people cling to titles like that.  Witch, Commie, terrorist.  You can't really disprove any of those things, and it's always easy to peg just about anyone as any of those.

Mofo "I'm a practicing witch who votes communist and is a terrorist." apoo

[TheZookie007]

For more "all Sarah Palin, all the time" see here, where they reprinted this article from the Huffington Post:

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"On Star Wars, Homeless Men, and Sarah Palin"

The cliché is to say that Sarah Palin would only be a heartbeat away from the presidency if she and John McCain win the election. My theory? We're talking about the wrong body part.

Bear with me on this one: everyone can admit that Sarah Palin is hot. Everyone can also admit that John McCain is old. Creepily old. Like, if you were to take away the makeup and the lights, he'd probably look like Emperor Palpatine in the early (and by "early," I mean "not terrible") Star Wars movies. So the first time Vice President Palin sashays into the Oval Office and leans over the Resolute desk to ask President McCain a question, what's left of his old man blood is going to rush belowdecks, and the next thing we know McCain dies with a smile on his face and President Sarah Palin is the one behind the desk.

This is a problem....Why? Because Steve hasn't exactly wowed anyone with his achievements in life. Neither has Sarah Palin. Like she said at the Republican National Convention, Sarah Palin is "not a member of the permanent political establishment." Nope, she was "just your average hockey mom."

Granted, she was probably just being modest, but let's take a look at what Sarah Palin actually has accomplished. In her youth, Sarah Palin was captain of her high school basketball team, and runner up in the Miss Alaska contest. She then switched between five colleges in six years, before graduating from the University of Idaho.

Next, she beat out a local telephone company employee to serve on the city council of Wasilla, Alaska, where she helped keep the local bars open an extra two hours a night. She was soon elected mayor, and was apparently pretty damn popular among her citizens. In case it's been a while since you last visited, Wasilla's official population is 7,028, and the total local city annual revenue is $12,695,563. As a point of reference, Danny DeVito, esteemed actor and — I kid you not — voice of "Grundle King" in My Little Pony: The Movie, put his house on the market for $32 million. So two and a half times Wasilla's total annual revenue.

Since then, Palin's served as Alaska's governor, though for less than two years. During that time, she authorized the state to allow TransCanada Alaska to build a natural gas pipeline, and set aside $741 million out of an estimated $2.7 billion in taxes raised from oil companies to distribute among qualified Alaskan citizens. She also sold off the state's private jet and fired her standard-issue personal chef as means of getting rid of unnecessary government spending. Though in my mind, the fact that Alaska ranks only behind New Mexico in the federal spending to tax ratio sort of makes this like saying you're going to stop putting sugar in your coffee to cut back on fat, while stuffing your face with a fried Twinkie at the state fair. But that's just me.

So we see she's gotten a few things done, and has definitely earned at least a polite golf clap. But now let's check how her accomplishments hold up to a few celebrated presidents and vice presidents from both sides of the political spectrum before they took office.

Thomas Jefferson graduated from William and Mary at eighteen with the highest honors, became a lawyer and served in the Virginian state Burgess, authored the Declaration of Independence, served as minister to France, was appointed George Washington's first secretary of state, and was John Adams's vice president, before becoming president himself.

Abraham Lincoln, born into far crappier circumstances than Jefferson, managed to go from being the son of two uneducated farmers to serving as a captain in the Black Hawk War, educating himself in the classics and law, spending eight years in the Illinois legislature, riding the circuit of courts for many years, and serving as a member of the House of Representatives before becoming one of our greatest presidents and telling people who thought owning slaves was cool to go fuck themselves.

Jumping ahead, before ending the Cold War with the USSR and **77** everyone to turn those ugly bomb shelters into the foosball table room, Ronald Regan (sic) was a world famous actor, served as president of the Screen Actors Guild, toured the country as a conservative television host, and served twice as governor of California — the US's most populated state.

You get the idea. If you want, Google just about any great leader, past or present, and you'll find a similar list of accomplishments. I, on the other hand, generally consider it a good day if I wake up before noon. The difference between those men and Sarah Palin and me is that each of them proved he had what it takes to lead the world's only superpower before taking office — not only by accumulating insane amounts of political, legal, and social experience, but by being so good at those things that they generally made everybody else around them look like a real asshole.

Sarah Palin hasn't shown she's that great at anything, other than crinkling her nose and being charming. I respect her and can relate to her as a person, as I'm sure many people can. Most of us have felt out of place at some point in our education. And love our families deeply. And want to improve the government, whatever that may mean to us. And basically, like Sarah Palin, most of us have had to settle for Miss Congeniality rather than Miss Alaska in the beauty pageant of life. But just because we can relate to her in so many ways doesn't mean she should be in a position to become the leader of the free world. In fact, it means she shouldn't.

History has proven that the greatest presidents are smarter than us, are harder working, and somehow seem to achieve more over the course of brushing their teeth than we will in a lifetime. In short, they have the ability to be extraordinary. I don't have that ability, neither does Sarah Palin, and that's okay so long as Americans realize this should mean the only way she and I are getting into the White House is by lining up for the official tour.

"Has she been living in an igloo?!"

[TheZookie007]

Couric: "I'm just going to ask you one more time, not to belabor the point: specific examples in his 26 years of pushing for more regulation."

Palin: "I...I'll try to find ya some and I'll bring 'em to ya."

No wonder she's been kept away from journalists' questions, even softball ones. She really has no clue about what positions her own boss has. This is worse than a tabula rasa -- this is tabula nullis (no slate at all). Bloody hell.

CBS News: "Katie Couric interviews Sarah Palin, Sep. 24, 2008"

[3deroticer]

In Sarah defense she has proven to be capable of being a successor VP! The way she keeps herself hidden from the public. It's six weeks away and she is still a mystery. Pretty much the way Dick Cheney keep to himself from the public. Instead of Quail hunting it's going to be Moose hunting, and maybe from a helicopter! I think this time the bitch Harry Whittington is going to stay down for good. The only change that will come from McCain/Palin administration is that John is the one with a bad heart.

[Hugeboobfan]

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TheZookie007 said:
Couric: "I'm just going to ask you one more time, not to belabor the point: specific examples in his 26 years of pushing for more regulation."

Palin: "I...I'll try to find ya some and I'll bring 'em to ya."

No wonder she's been kept away from journalists' questions, even softball ones. She really has no clue about what positions her own boss has. This is worse than a tabula rasa -- this is tabula nullis (no slate at all). Bloody hell.

CBS News: "Katie Couric interviews Sarah Palin, Sep. 24, 2008"

Was it just me or did she come off really badly in that interview?  It was almost embarrassing to watch.  

She tries to attack Obama for a couple minutes (wtf was with that finger waving, checking the wind thing?), and then says that Congress has to find a solution to this economic mess without pointing fingers at each other.

She also didn't give a straight answer to any of the questions asked, but just kept repeating the same tag lines over and over.

[ChrisR1]

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Q_BE said:Paraphrasing Thomas Paine: "He who governs best, governs least."

The Founding Fathers established this nation on that very basis. Many politicians, past and present have broken the Constitution's so-called Elastic Clause to make the government do more than what it ought. It is on that basis, and not any other, upon which I will be voting for candidates and causes.

Sounds good, we're in agreement.

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Q_BE said:In all ways, I am a conservative, because I see that moral degradation leads to social degradation, and it is on that basis that I seek to supplicate this nation to God's guidance and wisdom, just as the Founding Fathers did. Trusting in His absolute and perfect guidance, freedom will conquer tyranny and terrorism, for God will not be mocked.

Umm...I think not.

A Jumping Off Point for a look at some of the "Founding Fathers" and their belief system - there are many credible (and unlike the bible, annotated) sources with further information.

BTW, I also prefer the original pledge of allegiance.

[TheZookie007]

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Hugeboobfan said:

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TheZookie007 said:
Couric: "I'm just going to ask you one more time, not to belabor the point: specific examples in his 26 years of pushing for more regulation."

Palin: "I...I'll try to find ya some and I'll bring 'em to ya."

No wonder she's been kept away from journalists' questions, even softball ones. She really has no clue about what positions her own boss has. This is worse than a tabula rasa -- this is tabula nullis (no slate at all). Bloody hell.

CBS News: "Katie Couric interviews Sarah Palin, Sep. 24, 2008"

Was it just me or did she come off really badly in that interview?  It was almost embarrassing to watch.  

She tries to attack Obama for a couple minutes (wtf was with that finger waving, checking the wind thing?), and then says that Congress has to find a solution to this economic mess without pointing fingers at each other.

She also didn't give a straight answer to any of the questions asked, but just kept repeating the same tag lines over and over.

My point exactly. Incapable of giving a straight answer to a straight question. Incapable of stringing a coherent sentence together. Incapable, incapable, incapable. John McCain's biggest mistake of his political career is choosing this person to be his running mate. The John McCain of 2000 would NEVER have done such a boneheaded thing, I mean NEVER.

[onionwriter]

I would still strongly consider voting for McCain -- if he would get rid of her. What a train wreck. I backed Hillary, but I do not understand the knee-jerk excitement Palin enjoys.

[TheZookie007]

A lot of men see her and start thinking with their dicks. A lot of women see her and I don't know what they're thinking