[notty]

We can't nuke them. That will irradiate everything. If we send a massive shipment of tainted pork and beans, that should wipe out the entire country.

[PET]

Hurray! Today he made strain cells research allowed in US, it could have saved superman, you know.

[Real]

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This is just too good.  

G.W.Bush cracks a joke - "So I said to Barak, I know Abe

Lincoln and you ain't him!"  





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ah, would there really be anything more endearing than to be laughed at by lying crooked pigs like w bush and nixon?  

love the irony of one of the few subsequent republicans perhaps even more stupid than dan quayle dropping the punchline too.

like being clowned by chris brown for being a coward wife beater.  phenomenal illustration (in both senses) of right wing denial...

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My oh my but aren't we bitter and nasty?   Thought that was the land of the terrible Right Wing hordes?

Might be good idea to lighten up a bit and learn how to laugh at both sides when there's something truly funny going on?  And there's plenty of funny in the White House and Congress to laugh at these days!  
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Jest becuz yuh didn't see it on Jon Stewart or Letterman don't mean it can't be funny!

bitter?  well the whole world wasnt too pleased seeing the worst president ever get an 8 year term.  but now, no actually im stoked having seen the far better candidate win the 08 election.

im sorry, but it simply is great irony that the worst president of our times, who's never been regarded as sharp as a tack is delivering a line that was originally used to skewered the poster boy for republican himbos....you know, what w actually now is lol.

no i think bitter and nasty is propping up the worst president of our time, seeing that people are stoked on his replacement, then mockingly calling that person "the messiah" as if its ridiculous to be excited about an alternative to wars based on lies and rich first policies that crash the economy.

seriously how is having george w launch inadequacy disses at you not totally funny?  

especially with the better part of the republican party now claiming they had nothing to do with him lol.

i mean really, biases aside, in the context of political satire its like having bill clinton call someone a morally bankrupt manwhore...

[Real]

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Real has no sense of humor. Only an abnormal interest in another country's politics.

lol, that's my favorite talking point for mindless patriotism, american or otherwise.

but i mean...sorry do i know you? lol.  i remember telling you racists are racists and not voting is a fool's protest.  sorry again about discussing stuff on a discussion board.  you were and are welcome to answer back, or just pidgeon hole me because you cant.

in actuality my father and half my family is american.  my sisters are dual citizens, i am not just in case there happens to be a draft.  

but when one country declares itself world police we all have a vested interest. if the united states denounced trying to physically and economically conquer the world id probably have much less to say.

as long as far right nutcases are launching wars on lies for the sake of cockamamie conservative academics, or fascists seek to impose their religious beliefs on supposedly free peoples ill be there to say something.

sorry hoes..

[notty]

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lol, that's my favorite talking point for mindless patriotism, american or otherwise.

Is this in response to my post, or just the tail end of the conversation in your head?

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but i mean...sorry do i know you? lol.  i remember telling you racists are racists and not voting is a fool's protest.

That's very deep. I should write that down.

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sorry again about discussing stuff on a discussion board.  you were and are welcome to answer back, or just pidgeon hole me because you cant.

Apology accepted. Don't let it happen again.

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in actuality my father and half my family is american.  my sisters are dual citizens, i am not just in case there happens to be a draft.

But you're already in Canada. You wouldn't even have to sneak over the border.  

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but when one country declares itself world police we all have a vested interest. if the united states denounced trying to physically and economically conquer the world id probably have much less to say.

America! Fuck yeah!

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as long as far right nutcases are launching wars on lies for the sake of cockamamie conservative academics, or fascists seek to impose their religious beliefs on supposedly free peoples ill be there to say something.

sorry hoes..

That's comforting. Some Canadian guy on some forum on the internet will be there to say something. I feel better knowing that.



P.S. It is ridiculous to be excited about any politician at any time for any reason.

[JJ]

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This is just too good.  

G.W.Bush cracks a joke - "So I said to Barak, I know Abe

Lincoln and you ain't him!"  





- see attachment  

ah, would there really be anything more endearing than to be laughed at by lying crooked pigs like w bush and nixon?  

love the irony of one of the few subsequent republicans perhaps even more stupid than dan quayle dropping the punchline too.

like being clowned by chris brown for being a coward wife beater.  phenomenal illustration (in both senses) of right wing denial...

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My oh my but aren't we bitter and nasty?   Thought that was the land of the terrible Right Wing hordes?

Might be good idea to lighten up a bit and learn how to laugh at both sides when there's something truly funny going on?  And there's plenty of funny in the White House and Congress to laugh at these days!  
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Jest becuz yuh didn't see it on Jon Stewart or Letterman don't mean it can't be funny!

bitter?  well the whole world wasnt too pleased seeing the worst president ever get an 8 year term.  but now, no actually im stoked having seen the far better candidate win the 08 election.

im sorry, but it simply is great irony that the worst president of our times, who's never been regarded as sharp as a tack is delivering a line that was originally used to skewered the poster boy for republican himbos....you know, what w actually now is lol.

no i think bitter and nasty is propping up the worst president of our time, seeing that people are stoked on his replacement, then mockingly calling that person "the messiah" as if its ridiculous to be excited about an alternative to wars based on lies and rich first policies that crash the economy.

seriously how is having george w launch inadequacy disses at you not totally funny?  

especially with the better part of the republican party now claiming they had nothing to do with him lol.

i mean really, biases aside, in the context of political satire its like having bill clinton call someone a morally bankrupt manwhore...

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Worst President of our time?  

I hear that all the time.

What does it mean?   What "time" are we talking about?

Probably just the last eight years?    Lessee, that leaves just one candidate.

Better to take a longer look.........................

Worst President of all time?   Whew, that's a loaded one. But let me give it a shot.

1. Jimmy Carter - overmatched during one 4 yr.term of miSTEAKS and out the door!
2. Lyndon Johnson - Vietnam warmonger whose Great Society put the country in a hole we've never recovered from - and we still have poverty?
3. U.S. Grant - great Civil War General, **93** bum of a Republican president
4. and the worst of all - James Buchanan - he tried to balance South and North on slavery and other issues just before the Civil War - failed miserably and actually made things worse - totally overwhelmed by the office

To say that Bill Clinton or George W. Bush were the worst of all time, as contemporary critics like to harp, leaves gaping holes in historical facts.

And, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush both got elected a second time!  Something was working there!

Were they a little bit lucky too?

Yes.

Bill Clinton had Ross Perot water down President George Herbert Walker Bush  Republican base just enough to let Clinton win with 49%.

Then Clinton got lucky again - he ran against old worn out warhorse Bob Dole the second time.

George W. Bush got lucky both times, running against two imbeciles posing as actual politicans - Al Gore Jr. and John Kerry.    

[Real]

oh i think bill clinton was a great president.  see i was giving examples of appropriate or logical satire, not political bias.

as for re-electing a person who for starters started a trillion dollar war on at best utter incompetence;  the results have spoken for themselves.  now the polls speak for themselves...

[3deroticer]

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Worst President of our time?  

I hear that all the time.

What does it mean?   What "time" are we talking about?

Probably just the last eight years?    Lessee, that leaves just one candidate.

Better to take a longer look.........................

Worst President of all time?   Whew, that's a loaded one. But let me give it a shot.

1. Jimmy Carter - overmatched during one 4 yr.term of miSTEAKS and out the door!
2. Lyndon Johnson - Vietnam warmonger whose Great Society put the country in a hole we've never recovered from - and we still have poverty?
3. U.S. Grant - great Civil War General, **93** bum of a Republican president
4. and the worst of all - James Buchanan - he tried to balance South and North on slavery and other issues just before the Civil War - failed miserably and actually made things worse - totally overwhelmed by the office

To say that Bill Clinton or George W. Bush were the worst of all time, as contemporary critics like to harp, leaves gaping holes in historical facts.

And, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush both got elected a second time!  Something was working there!

Were they a little bit lucky too?

Yes.

Bill Clinton had Ross Perot water down President George Herbert Walker Bush  Republican base just enough to let Clinton win with 49%.

Then Clinton got lucky again - he ran against old worn out warhorse Bob Dole the second time.

George W. Bush got lucky both times, running against two imbeciles posing as actual politicans - Al Gore Jr. and John Kerry.    

well according to historical scholars with the CNN 2009 poll results

George Bush scored lower than Millard Fillmore and Herbert hoover, and they are already calling the tent city of the new middle class homeless the Bushville city.

So I would have to accurately state that Bush was the worst president in my time.

Incidently Carter and Clinton scored higher than either Bush, and in my lifetime JFK scored higher than any other president.

Now scores like this change over in a period of time, and with the trickle down theory imploding, I suspect people will rewrite the scores for Reagonomics principle.

[TheZookie007]

It wasn't necessarily that Jimmy Carter was "overmatched"; he largely lost the 1980 election because of the "October surprise" engineered by George H. W. Bush on behalf of Ronald Reagan. The luck that George W. Bush had in the 2000 election was that his brother was governor of the state where the ballot was disputed, a strong campaigner on his behalf was secretary of state of that same state...oh, and Al Gore wasn't able to pick up enough electoral college votes from his home state. And yes, Richard M. Nixon was a crook, but he got us out of Vietnam (eventually), was around when men walked on the moon for the first time, and helped improve diplomatic relations between the US and Russia, and the US and China quite a bit...so from a foreign policy perspective, largely, he did a good job. Ironically, because of his downfall, we had Ford, who had Rumsfeld & Cheney working for him, who started the wheels a-turnin' to put Dubya in power and subsequently fuck us up, and fuck over the Constitution.

But I digress...

Gingrich Takes On Rush: Hoping For Prez's Failure Is "Irrational" (VIDEO)

Limbaugh Hits Back At Gingrich: He "Wishes They Were Running TV Ads Against Him"

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HuffPo: Frank Schaeffer: "Open Letter to the Republican Traitors (From a Former Republican)"

Dear Republican Leaders: The Republican Party has become the party dedicated to sabotaging the American future. Check out the sermon I just delivered about the Republican Party on CNN when being interviewed by D.L. Hughley -- and/or read on.

You Republicans are the arsonists who burned down our national home. You combined the failed ideologies of the Religious Right, so-called free market deregulation and the Neoconservative love of war to light a fire that has consumed America. Now you have the nerve to criticize the "architect" America just hired -- President Obama -- to rebuild from the ashes. You do nothing constructive, just try to hinder the one person willing and able to fix the mess you created.

...President Obama has been in office barely 45 days and the Republican Party has the nerve to blame him for the economic and military cataclysm he inherited. I say economic and military cataclysm because without the needless war in Iraq you all backed we would not be in the economic mess we're in today. If that money had been spent here at home on renovating our infrastructure, taking us toward a green economy, putting our health-care system in order we'd be a very different situation....

When your new leader Rush Limbaugh calls for President Obama to fail he's calling for more flag-draped coffins. Limbaugh is the new "Hanoi Jane."

For the party that created our crises of misbegotten war, mismanaged economy, the lack of regulation of our banking industry, handing our country to rich crooks... to obstruct the one person who is trying to repair the damage is obscene....

After Obama was elected, you Republican leaders had a unique last chance to send a patriotic message of unity to the world -- and to all Americans. You could have backed our president's economic recovery plan. Since we all know that half of our problem is one of lost confidence and perception, nothing would have done more to calm the markets and project resolve and confidence than if you had been big enough to take Obama's offered hand and had work with him -- even if you disagreed ideologically. You had the chance to put our country first. You utterly failed to rise to the occasion.

The worsening economic situation is your fault and your fault alone. The Republicans created this mess through 8 years of backing the worst president in our history and now, because you put partisan ideology ahead of the good of our country, you have blown your last chance to redeem yourselves. You deserve the banishment to the political wilderness that awaits all traitors.

Ouch! Talk about fighting words!

[Dearc]

I'm not here to debate, but I just wanted to share this pic.  It isn't Obama that bothers me, but AG Eric Holder and his stance on gun control.

[ROUNDandHEAVY]

I love the pundits. Now they are saying Obama is trying to do too much, that he shouldn't be out stumping in front of citizens.

I love that the media shows its obtuse vision by not realizing that Obama's connection with the voter's is his strength. That the panic the press fans with its doom and gloom can only be addressed by Obama touring the country and speaking substantively to the public.

Perhaps after 8 years of a small minded ideologue in the whitehouse, the press is unused to someone who can walk and chew gum.

[Real]

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That's comforting. Some Canadian guy on some forum on the internet will be there to say something. I feel better knowing that.

oh sorry, i totally dont know how i missed that.

lol your contrived haughty cynicism is pretty effective as a crytpic shield to things youre ignorant about eh?  people on this board seem to eat it up at least  kudos.  almost makes your "what business do you have speaking" attitude seem not on some moron redneck shit.

really what i say on here has nothing to do with you. you felt it necessary to address my post so i explained myself.  not really fishing for your approval tho but thanks.  if you want some deeper history on me and why im allowed to have an opinion on the world mabye hit me with a pm so we dont have to go off topic.

sorry if some issues you disagreed with me on but were too meek to debate at the time left you with a bad impression of me.  i often get that from people who dont really have much to say about anything....

[3deroticer]

Historically speaking, it was the outside country that end up liberating the people from tyranny of their own leaders. If Bushvilles start popping up all over the country and food and water become scarce, The next door neighbors will be force to deal with it, and it'll be more than just chatting on the internet.

[notty]

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That's comforting. Some Canadian guy on some forum on the internet will be there to say something. I feel better knowing that.

oh sorry, i totally dont know how i missed that.

lol your contrived haughty cynicism is pretty effective as a crytpic shield to things youre ignorant about eh?  people on this board seem to eat it up at least  kudos.  almost makes your "what business do you have speaking" attitude seem not on some moron redneck shit.

really what i say on here has nothing to do with you. you felt it necessary to address my post so i explained myself.  not really fishing for your approval tho but thanks.  if you want some deeper history on me and why im allowed to have an opinion on the world mabye hit me with a pm so we dont have to go off topic.

sorry if some issues you disagreed with me on but were too meek to debate at the time left you with a bad impression of me.  i often get that from people who dont really have much to say about anything....

WW, if there were a discipline called "Putting Words in Another Person's Mouth," you'd have a PhD.

Why on Earth would I debate with you about anything, Dr. Ass...umption? There is no incentive do so. I'm not going to change your mind on any topic, and you certainly won't change mine.

Actually, come to think of it, I did make a thoughtful reply to one of your posts (which, I can't help noticing, are just various riffs on the same old shit), but you failed to respond to any of the questions I asked. Here, allow me to refresh your memory:

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my point is you have to be either a right wing republican or the ultimate cynic to feign not being able to logically connect with the palpable excitement surrounding the prospect of a leader who for starters believes in science and not fairy tale magic. someone who's concerned about the middle as well as the upper class. someone who is going to end the illegal occupation of a country that was invaded on a lie. someonw who might not look to charactyer assasinate anyone who disagrees with him. someone who claims he will and just might govern in the interest of common sense instead of academic political theory. someone who understands that ecological preservation is an important infrastructure that will keep our [censored] from being flat broke. someone who didnt wipe their ass with your constitution. and on and on. i mean you can hold your president to whatever standard you want, but you really think its so snicker worthy that folks might be excited?

    the outcome of this contest was never in doubt was it? i dont know, it took two george w terms, a horrid mccain campaign and a vp candidate who actually seemed retarded and got a pass because she was a woman for obama to get his 3 point "landslide". george bush got a second term. anyone with a pulse who believes in jesus has a chance.

    what is it youre looking for in a leader that would have been so much less scoff-worthy?...

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Hmm, what do I do with this mess? I know, let's open it up to the forumites! Time for Question Game:

Am I a right-wing Republican? If I am, what makes me a right-wing Republican?

Am I the ultimate cynic? If I am, what makes me the ultimate cynic?

Do I fail to understand "the palpable excitement surrounding the prospect of a leader who for starters believes in science and not fairy tale magic?" Or is it that I understand, but find this behavior irresponsible? If it is the former, why do I fail to understand? If it is the later, why do I find it irresponsible?

Why am I not excited about some who cares about the middle class? Is it that I care more about the upper class? Or is that I care more about the invisible class, being those people near, at, or below the poverty level? Or none of the above? If so, why?

Do I fail to understand the excitement about potentially ending the occupation of Iraq? Or do I not care about Iraq? If so, why? Or did I realize a couple years ago that whichever Democratic candidate made it into office would withdraw the troops, making Iraq a bit of a non-factor?

Will Obama attack someone's character at any point during his term(s)? If not, why not?

Will Obama govern from common sense instead of theory? If so, why? How does that fit with his reputation as an intellectual? And what have you to say about his professorship at a university long known for its concentration on the theory of law rather than its practice?

Is Obama a champion of the environment? If he is, why does he support construction of additional coal and nuclear plants? Why does he support offshore drilling?

Did George W. Bush in fact wipe his ass with the Constitution? If so, how did he get it out of the display case? Do you think he watched National Treasure for some tips and tricks? Or, do you think the techniques used in National Treasure are not applicable to the theft the Constitution? Or do you think the techniques used in National Treasure are not applicable to anything? If so, why?

Do you think I think it's snicker-worthy that people would be excited about Obama? If so, why? Or do you think I think that people sometimes sacrifice their rationality to their enthusiasm? If so, do you think I might not want this to happen to my good friends in the forum? Or, am I just the party pooper? If so, why?

In the United States, are presidential candidates elected by popular vote? (hint: no) According to the polling data, did John McCain reach 270 electoral votes at any point during the campaign? What was Obama's margin of victory in the electoral college? Was it greater than 3%? If so, how much greater? Was McCain's campaign badly run? If so, why? If so, could it have been improved? If so, how could it have been improved? Could McCain have won the election with a better campaign? Was John McCain's choice of vice presidential candidate detrimental to his campaign? If so, why? Would he have received a larger portion of the electoral vote with a different vice presidential candidate? If so, why?

Weeeeeeeee!! I like Question Game!

[Janus]

 Great...high school essay questions. They were fun.

J- Moves out of the way of the sun notty actually wanted.