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« Reply #9675 on: March 22, 2025, 12:59:53 PM »
MAGA are claiming that these townhall meetings are filled with democrats agitator pretending to be republicans. The politician are laughing at their own constituents. Project 2025 calls for total disolvement of govt in 6 month, and it has slowed down, but not by much!
"Yesterday, Reince Priebus called this whole story a 'nothing burger,'" he said. "Well these emails have turned it into an all-you-can-prosecute buffet."

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« Reply #9676 on: March 22, 2025, 06:04:56 PM »
I'd say it's more anger, frustration, and fear....

......If the "Party of Trump" continues to give Dear Leader and President Musk free rein, one shouldn't be surprised to see more incidents of people lashing out like this.

No one can condone the violence.....but when Congress won't do anything, and El Presidente ignores the courts.....

Your arguments a mess of emotional venting and cherry picked links. The lefts hypocrisy is palpable. When conservatives boycotted Bud Light over its marketing, it was just that, a boycott. No death threats, no molotov cocktails. Yet when liberals dislike Elon Musk, we get Tesla dealerships torched, superchargers burned, random people keying Teslas, and posts on X practically begging for his head.

You call it “anger, frustration, and fear”? What did you call January 6 the past 4 years? You want to post some link about one woman's alleged account of her experience with ICE, yet what about the 2,500+ Americans who rotted in jail with no due process? And you are so worried about Federal Employees losing their jobs but didnt seem to care when Biden Admin was firing these people. Also this happens in the private sector all the time, but now that its in the public sector, it is somehow inhumane. The lefts sanctimonious “we’re above that” routine crumbles the second their feelings get hurt.

The left’s got no credibility left to spend. Theyve spent years preaching tolerance while canceling anyone who disagrees, championing climate change while trashing their own Teslas now. Electric cars they once hailed as planet savers. Its not about principle, its about power. If they cared about coherence, they’d applaud Musk for shaking up a bloated government, not demonize him or wish death upon him. Instead theyre mad hes not their puppet.

And those travel warnings from “former allies”? Europe’s been clutching pearls over U.S. politics forever, yet their citizens still flock here. Its theater, not evidence.

Strong borders are better now, period. Look at the mess before: unchecked inflows strained public resources, drove down wages for working class Americans and let cartels run wild. Now were seeing less chaos, border patrol’s own stats show crossings down significantly (about 94%). Everyday Americans; janitors, truckers, nurses, all benefit when labor markets arent flooded and taxpayer dollars arent stretched thin on unchecked migration. Your links about a few deportations dont change the math. Secure borders mean stability, not “inhumane” tyranny.

It is crazy to me how anytime the cult like left can casually say something like "President Musk." They just have no leg to stand on when they spent four years propping up Joe Biden as their commander-in-chief, despite his glaring mental decline. Bidens stumbling speeches, frequent confusion, and reliance on handlers painted a picture of a man barely clinging to coherence. Yet the left never questioned his fitness, happily gaslighting the public into accepting a senile figurehead. I mean, who the hell was the real President during Biden's four years?

And Musk’s slashing waste thats been bleeding taxpayers dry for decades. Potentially rooting out $1 trillion in fraud and thats money back in the pockets of regular people, not bureaucrats. Yeah its messy, change always is but the lefts over dramatic “hacking the government to pieces” ignores how broken it was to begin with. Everyday Americans win when government stops being a black hole of spending and starts serving them instead.

"No one can condone the violence... Buuuutttt..."
Dont pretend this is just “lashing out” because Congress wont act. The lefts unhinged reaction to Musk and Trump exposes their double standards. Theyre fine with disruption when its their guy, but scream bloody murder when its not.

DOGE and strong borders arent perfect, but theyre practical. Something the lefts tantrums cant claim.
Imagine if Obama, Kamala, or Biden survived two assassination attempts and the media not publicly destroying the reputation of everyone who issued even the most mild criticism of them and then just dropping the story completely.

Yeah, I cannot either.

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« Reply #9677 on: March 25, 2025, 08:27:25 PM »
OK, I have a question.

When it was found that Hillary Clinton had a private e-mail server contrary to government regulations, there were calls to "LOCK HER UP" for that lapse in security protocol - presumably in someplace like Gitmo.

Right? It's all there in the historical record, and the controversy arguably cost her the 2016 election.

So, then, what should be done with National Security Advisor Mike Waltz, Vice President JD Vance, Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, and White House chief of staff Susie Wiles - who all participated in a group chat on an unauthorized messaging app - that is known to have been hacked by Russia - AND allowed an uncleared journalist into the chat group - where they discussed an upcoming attack on Houthi rebels in Yemen?

This has all been confirmed, by the way. No lies or "fake news" detected.

Shouldn't they all be at least forced to resign for this colossal failure of OPSEC (Operational security)???
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« Reply #9678 on: March 28, 2025, 10:17:52 PM »
OK, I have a question.

When it was found that Hillary Clinton had a private e-mail server contrary to government regulations, there were calls to "LOCK HER UP" for that lapse in security protocol - presumably in someplace like Gitmo.

Right? It's all there in the historical record, and the controversy arguably cost her the 2016 election.

So, then, what should be done with National Security Advisor Mike Waltz, Vice President JD Vance, Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, and White House chief of staff Susie Wiles - who all participated in a group chat on an unauthorized messaging app - that is known to have been hacked by Russia - AND allowed an uncleared journalist into the chat group - where they discussed an upcoming attack on Houthi rebels in Yemen?

This has all been confirmed, by the way. No lies or "fake news" detected.

Shouldn't they all be at least forced to resign for this colossal failure of OPSEC (Operational security)???

Wow. You really have no shame do you?

So you want to ignore every question I asked and everything else I said. Just to latch onto the newest mainstream media nothingburger of a story. Fine, I will humor you.

First of all, the fact that you labeled Hillary's actions as a "lapse" and Trump Admins actions as a "colossal failure" is laughable. Hillary Clinton acid washed her data AFTER receiving a subpoena and her whole actions regarding Benghazi itself resulted in the deaths of Americans. If we compare that to a leak about a group chat about a successful strike against terrorists, which one is the real lapse here?

BTW, I would have waited a couple weeks before jumping on this as if its some major win. What always ends up happening in these kinds of "stories?" I would wager that a few weeks from now, its going to be revealed that there is more than meets the eye to this story. Like the fact that the NPR CEO, Katherine Maher, is on the Board of Directors at Signal. Could the Signal accounts been hacked and then added NPR "journalist" Jeff Goldberg? We shall see. These kinds of stories just never end well for Democrats. Yet their propaganda is so good, that regardless of their own setup, failure and lies, like the Russia Collusion hoax, the people on the left just move on to the next narrative they are told to care about as if nothing ever happened as if they are in some sort of cult.

It is just insane to me that someone thinks they have any sort of credibility to even bring these things up. YOU COVERED FOR A SENILE OLD MAN AS PRESIDENT FOR FOUR YEARS. YOU KNEW ABOUT IT AND DIDNT REPORT ON IT. HE RECEIVED HIGHLY CLASSIFIED INFORMATION DAILY WHICH MADE IT A NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE. Of course I dont mean you specifically, more in general.

So where do you get off to bring up anything right now?

Why dont you apply the same logic and argument you used here with how the mainstream media talked about a President pardoning his family looking guilty, when it was rumored Trump was going to do it, to how Joe Biden (his admin) actually did it.
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Imagine if Obama, Kamala, or Biden survived two assassination attempts and the media not publicly destroying the reputation of everyone who issued even the most mild criticism of them and then just dropping the story completely.

Yeah, I cannot either.

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« Reply #9679 on: April 03, 2025, 09:34:04 PM »
OK, I'm no economist, nor am I a "stable genius". So there's quite a bit in Trump's Tariff Plan that I don't understand.

Things like why he shows the tariff rate set by the European Union on US goods at 39%, when it's actually only about 3%.

Again, maybe he's taking things into account that I'm completely unaware of.

But there's one thing I really cannot get my head around:

Why are tariffs being imposed on uninhabited islands?

The Heard and McDonald Islands, which belong to Australia, are essentially wildlife reserves with no humans AT ALL. Yet they were specifically named on the little list, and are being hit with a 10% tariff rate. There are a number of other places with insignificant populations and equally insignificant trade with the US that are also being tariffed.
https://www.npr.org/2025/04/03/nx-s1-5350897/trump-tariffs-heard-mcdonald-remote-islands

Please explain this to me; I'm not smart enough to understand it.

I have read that it just might possibly be due to the method used for calculating the tariff rates. Each country’s new tariff rate appears to be derived by taking the trade deficit that America runs with that nation and dividing it by the exports that country sent into the United States, and cutting it in half. That just happens to be the formula used when you ask ChatGPT "What would be an easy way to calculate the tariffs that should be imposed on other countries so that the US is on even playing fields when it comes to trade deficit. Set a minimum of ten percent."
https://futurism.com/trump-tariffs-signs-ai

Using AI in such a manner is known to be rife with errors, so maybe ChatGPT decided that places like the Svalbard Islands (territory of Norway, population under 3,000; no exports to the US in 2024) counted as "countries" and put them on the list.

Now it is possible that Trump really does know what he is doing, and I am too simple to comprehend his incredible genius.

Or maybe he just doesn't give a crap, and is only doing this to extort obedience out of international businesses (who are surely lining up to argue for their own special exemptions to the tariffs).
(I've also read that in the tariff announcement, Trump mentioned discussing the plan with Lee Iacocca. Since Iacocca has been dead for over five years, that's a sign that either Trump has mental powers beyond our comprehension, or that he's gone senile.)

Anyway, to get back to the main point, can someone please really explain why tariffs are being imposed on uninhabited islands?
 
More stuff on tariffs here (even though I know you're not going to read it):
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/04/donald-trump-tariffs-corruption/
https://www.vox.com/politics/406467/trump-tariffs-prices-liberation-day-economy
https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/406453/trump-tariffs-china-shock
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« Reply #9680 on: April 04, 2025, 03:48:31 PM »
All I know is that for many years the GOP were against tax and now they are promoting Tariff, which is duty tax that is pass onto the consumer. So they are now for it! The Tariff may or may not offset the deficit and pay the billionaires the subsidy that they been working hard for. The Billionaires don't pay tax, so at this point they could only be getting money shovel to them by the American people that do pay tax. They voted for this, they voted to increase the homeless population, increase the deficit, they voted for all this just to hurt people they don't like. The sad part is, they don't even know the people that they hate.
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« Reply #9681 on: April 05, 2025, 09:02:16 PM »
As expected, right on cue. Ignore all the questions I asked, ignore all the rebuttals I gave to pretty much everything you said. Never own up to anything, any mistake, and just move on to the next mainstream media story.

Anyway, to get back to the main point, can someone please really explain why tariffs are being imposed on uninhabited islands?

Easy, without the tariffs imposed on Heard Island, Australians could have shipped a shit ton of crap through the port there with no penalty.

Dont support these tariffs? Well how about this? Let your fellow Democrat leaders sell them to you(even though I know you wont watch).
Here is Nancy Pelosi urging all of Congress to back reciprocal tariffs.
Here is Obama backing reciprocal tariffs as well.

The fear isnt the tariffs. The fear is that Trump will be right. Again.
Imagine if Obama, Kamala, or Biden survived two assassination attempts and the media not publicly destroying the reputation of everyone who issued even the most mild criticism of them and then just dropping the story completely.

Yeah, I cannot either.

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« Reply #9682 on: April 05, 2025, 10:03:21 PM »
"Easy, without the tariffs imposed on Heard Island, Australians could have shipped a shit ton of crap through the port there with no penalty."

Ummm.... WHAT PORT?

The islands are UNIHABITED. And it takes two weeks to get to them, so even TRYING to ship stuff through there is pointless.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heard_Island_and_McDonald_Islands
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« Reply #9683 on: April 06, 2025, 10:55:51 PM »
lol
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« Reply #9684 on: April 10, 2025, 09:12:56 PM »
Nope. Not a Cult.

It's pure coincidence that several bigwigs on Capitol Hill have been seen wearing little golden lapel pins with El Presidente's profile instead of a flag pin, or even their "I Am A Congressperson" ID pins.

And it's also just a matter of pure chance that they strongly resemble the Mao pins that millions of ChiComs wore to profess their loyalty to the regime...

Nope. Nothing to see here. Not a Cult......

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« Reply #9685 on: April 10, 2025, 11:32:06 PM »
Nope. Not a Cult.

It's pure coincidence that several bigwigs on Capitol Hill have been seen wearing little golden lapel pins with El Presidente's profile instead of a flag pin, or even their "I Am A Congressperson" ID pins.

And it's also just a matter of pure chance that they strongly resemble the Mao pins that millions of ChiComs wore to profess their loyalty to the regime...

Nope. Nothing to see here. Not a Cult......



MAGA is very anticommunist, and they hate the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) that Mao started.

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« Reply #9686 on: April 16, 2025, 02:22:02 PM »
As expected, right on cue. Ignore all the questions I asked, ignore all the rebuttals I gave to pretty much everything you said. Never own up to anything, any mistake, and just move on to the next mainstream media story.

Anyway, to get back to the main point, can someone please really explain why tariffs are being imposed on uninhabited islands?

Easy, without the tariffs imposed on Heard Island, Australians could have shipped a shit ton of crap through the port there with no penalty.

Dont support these tariffs? Well how about this? Let your fellow Democrat leaders sell them to you(even though I know you wont watch).
Here is Nancy Pelosi urging all of Congress to back reciprocal tariffs.
Here is Obama backing reciprocal tariffs as well.

The fear isnt the tariffs. The fear is that Trump will be right. Again.

I'm just surprised the Democrats didn't fly all those Penguins into the US, put them up in hotels and try to get them citizenship. Then they could have paid them social security up until they were 150!  :)

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« Reply #9687 on: April 17, 2025, 12:52:15 AM »
This doesn't make sense, why would any Democrat try to prove that the Republican were right about any of these things.
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« Reply #9688 on: April 18, 2025, 08:24:07 PM »
It's pure coincidence that several bigwigs on Capitol Hill have been seen wearing little golden lapel pins with El Presidente's profile instead of a flag pin, or even their "I Am A Congressperson" ID pins.

To try to associate MAGA with communism is... I cant even find the words.

This is just more projection.

Ummm.... WHAT PORT?

The islands are UNIHABITED. And it takes two weeks to get to them, so even TRYING to ship stuff through there is pointless.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heard_Island_and_McDonald_Islands

Pretty much moot now.

Why dont we talk about how the Democrat party is the party of violence and destruction? Why do you guys love Hamas? Why do you guys love MS-13? Why do you guys love burning up buildings and calling for the murder of someone you dont like? Why do you guys idolize Luigi Mangione?

Fucking pathetic.

You want to see the fall of America. You dont even know what youre fighting for. You got Democrats flying over to El Salvador trying to save MS-13 gang members. What else needs to be said at this point?

Still waiting on that Covid cult like behavior apology....
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« Reply #9689 on: April 20, 2025, 11:45:41 PM »
The Supreme court 9-0 decision says he needs to be return and face due process if he is a member of a gang. As a US citizen he has a right to a fair trial before being found guilty. It isn't about him, it's about all of the US citizen have a right to a fair trial before being sentence for a crime.
"Yesterday, Reince Priebus called this whole story a 'nothing burger,'" he said. "Well these emails have turned it into an all-you-can-prosecute buffet."