[3deroticer]

so you didn't look at snope debunking Tulsi Gabbard?
Are you having fun debating with yourself? We told you we can't debate with you, this is a one sided thread, if we debated with you on anything we get ban for a week or so. So if you wanted a rebuttal its not going to happen, but if you throw accusation at me, I can defend myself, and yes it was you that posted a graphic to make your claim, that I link you the snope debunking it.

If you look up "can Trump read", there are ton of info, of which they made a new department in the white-house that is in charge of making pictures and video for Trump because he wont read anything. They even gave him a crash course on American History. The link you included?!?!? If you included it, I did not see it, but it's already been debunk, so why would I want to read fiction at that point?

[rtpoe]

I have a simple question.

Last week, the Bureau of Labor Statistics released its revisions to the last quarter's numbers. They showed a MUCH lower number of "new jobs added", giving a significant hit to the administration's touting of a strong economy.

Now these sorts of revisions are the usual practice, as more and better figures come in. It's done every quarter, and no one blinks an eye. But this time, the revised numbers were a lot lower.

So how did Trump respond?

He fired Erika McEntarfer, the commissioner of the BLS. The reason? Without giving any evidence AT ALL, he claimed she rigged the numbers to make him look bad.

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/trump-orders-firing-bls-commissioner-weak-jobs-report-rcna222531

Here's my question. Should be a simple "Yes or No" answer.

Isn't this - firing the person who brings you news you don't want to hear - something that dictators or fascist regimes do?

A follow-up question: What happens to the economy when corporations and financial institutions cannot trust the basic numbers being given them by the government - because government officials don't want to do or say anything that will bring down the wrath of Dear Leader?

[Hiram]

Isn't this - firing the person who brings you news you don't want to hear - something that dictators or fascist regimes do?

Yes.

What happens to the economy when corporations and financial institutions cannot trust the basic numbers being given them by the government

Crash crash crash, brace for impact.

[rtpoe]

https://www.splinter.com/what-the-hell-is-going-on-at-the-texas-legislature-now

Let's see.....

In order to improve the Republican presence in the House of Representatives, Texas Governor Greg Abbott (a Republican) and the Republicans in the Texas State Legislature (with El Presidente's encouragement) want to push through an off-year redistricting plan that will eliminate some Democratic seats and give the Texas GOP as many as six more seats in Congress.

In order to do that, though, they had to call a special emergency session in the State House.

Rather than participate in that farce, and knowing they couldn't change the outcome anyway, the Democrats in the Texas State Legislature all left the state, denying a quorum, so the redistricting bill couldn't be rammed through.

Gov. Greg Abbott and Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton (also a Republican) threatened to send state police to arrest them. Which is blatantly illegal (the arresting, not leaving the state).

Well, the deadline for having that Special Emergency Session went by without anything happening. So the Texas Dems started to come back home. Once they made it back to the House chamber, though, they were forced to sign "permission slips" that gave "permission" for state law enforcement to follow them around if they wanted to leave the chamber - and arrest them if they tried to leave the state again.

"Lawmakers had officers posted outside their Capitol offices, and suburban Dallas Rep. Mihaela Plesa said one tailed her on her Monday evening drive back to her apartment in Austin after spending much of the day on a couch in her office. She said he went with her for a staff lunch and even down the hallway with her for restroom breaks."

One representative refused. Nicole Collier is, for all intents and purposes, a Political Prisoner of the State of Texas, confined to their House chambers. I suppose she's being allowed to use the nearest rest room, but still.....

HOW IS ANY OF THIS FAIR AND DECENT AND AMERICAN?

[rtpoe]

UPDATE:

[rtpoe]

Well, the Texas House went ahead and did it. They passed their redistricting plan, and kicked it up to the state Senate, where it will certainly be given the OK and handed up to Gov. Abbott to sign.

In response, California's Gov. Newsom got the state to OK a referendum on this November's ballot to allow for that state to do its own redistricting; their plan will eliminate five Republican seats.

"We got here because the President of the United States is struggling, we got here because the President of the United States is one of the most unpopular presidents in US history, we got here because he recognizes that he will lose the election," Newsom said before signing his redistricting plan into law. "He's trying to rig the elections. He's trying to set up the conditions where he can claim that the elections were not won fair and square. Open your eyes to what is going on in the United States of America in 2025."

The state GOP, naturally and hypocritically, is crying "foul":

"Governor Newsom has signed into law a blatant power grab, rushed through in secret by Democrats in the very kind of backroom process Californians voted to abolish when they created the independent Citizens Redistricting Commission," Rankin said in a statement. "Voters established the Commission to guarantee fairness and transparency, and Democrats just shredded it to protect their own power."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/08/21/california-gavin-newsom-redistricting-vote-texas-republicans/85768112007/

[rtpoe]

Are you feeling Great Again?

Federal agents arrest firefighters working on WA wildfire
https://archive.ph/0EQZ8
Over three hours, federal agents demanded identification from the members of two private contractor crews. The crews were among the 400 people including firefighters deployed to fight the wildfire, the largest active blaze in Washington state.
The firefighters requested anonymity because they feared retaliation from federal agencies for talking to the media.
While they were waiting for their division supervisor to arrive, federal law enforcement showed up around 9:30 a.m.
Federal law enforcement asked the crews to line up to check their IDs, according to the firefighters.
One of the firefighters said members of the crew were told not to take video of the incident.
“You risked your life out here to save the community,” the firefighter said. “This is how they treat us.”
According to one of the firefighters, they were denied the chance to say goodbye to the detained crew members.
“I asked them if his (family) can say goodbye to him because they’re family, and they’re just ripping them away,” the firefighter told the Times. “And this is what he said: ‘You need to get the (expletive) out of here. I’m gonna make you leave.'”

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DHS moves to bar aid groups from serving undocumented immigrants
https://wapo.st/3Jy4ptv
The Department of Homeland Security is now barring states and volunteer groups that receive government funds from helping undocumented immigrants, according to a Washington Post analysis of updated guidelines and interviews with Federal Emergency Management Agency employees. The new rules also require groups to cooperate with immigration officials and enforcement operations.
By accepting the federal grants and awards, the new documents state, volunteer organizations that help after disasters must agree to not “operate any program that benefits illegal immigrants or incentivizes illegal immigration.”
That could put groups that provide food, housing, mental health support and other assistance in disaster-stricken states in the position of having to verify aid recipients’ legal status before providing assistance, experts said.
“So will our government now deprive a household with a citizen member of assistance because undocumented people live in the household, too?” asked a state VOAD chair who spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of retribution. “Is the federal government saying that a disaster case manager can’t even advise someone where to get help if they are undocumented or their family is? Is that really what we’ve come to?”
(Just think - you've lost your home and everything in a fire/flood/hurricane, and you can't get federal help unless you can prove you're a citizen with papers you lost in the disaster......)


And meanwhile, National Guard troops are cleaning up litter and tending gardens in DC - because the National Park Service, who would normally be doing that, has been decimated by El Presidente's cuts.....

[StrikezOne]

according to NIH our govt own branch of health, reports  Expressed in terms of predicted probabilities, the probability of left-wing attacks resulting in fatalities was 0.23, that of right-wing attacks was 0.35, and that of Islamist attacks was 0.55.

I don't know what you plan to do with this topic. Or point you want to make?

What the fuck do you have to say now?

Are you feeling Great Again?

Are you feeling fucking great now?

The Democrat party in the United States is effectively the party of hatred, the party of violence and the party of murder. All the Democrats have now is resorting to violence. We have seen this coming a mile away with the rioting and looting and that is what they are NOW. They have no way to engage life or debates other than with immature tantrums or hate filled violence.

The only way to prevent physical violence, civil war is through discourse and a degree of negotiation. How do we (people on the right) have discourse with people that we cant even politely speak to, which is what Charlie Kirk did, without them wanting to put a bullet in your neck for disagreeing? People are celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk. This is disgusting and is no longer a political divide. This is about right and wrong, good and evil. People are laughing and celebrating a father dying in front of his chi1dren because he disagreed with their world view.

This is a genuine question, how do you exist among people who want you to die? How do you live in a country where half the people you walk past want you DEAD?

Democrats want Elon dead, they want Ben Shapiro dead, they want Donald Trump dead, they want Matt Walsh dead, they want JK Rowling dead, they want Andy Ngo dead. And when these people do die, and others like JD Vance and Candice Owens, there are going to be large celebrations from the left. Because again....

The Democrat Party is the party of hatred, violence and murder!

[solvegas]

As an NRA member, I can see why the left wishes to take our defense weapons away from us so they can kill us.

[3deroticer]

Turns out that the shooter was more likely a Trump fan! We still don't know his motivation, but he turn himself in to be arrested to his father who is the sheriff, and both parents are Republicans. But let me make this clear I don't advocate violence nor revel in it, and I don't lump all Republicans as violent group of people. I still believe in spite of our differences that we all basically want the same thing, and that we are more alike than different, not everyone wakes up every morning makes a enemy list. Democrats have not propose a bill to take guns away, we just want the same treatment of owning a gun as owning a car.

[Scarface]

Don't know his motivation? Seriously? You obviously didn't listen to the press conference or chose to ignore what they said because it doesn't fit your narrative.

[StrikezOne]

Turns out that the shooter was more likely a Trump fan!

The glee and joyous tone in this statement is palpable, holy shit. But youre wrong.

But let me make this clear I don't advocate violence nor revel in it, and I don't lump all Republicans as violent group of people.

No, you dont lump them as a violent group, but what you did do is call them fascists over and over. And complained that you cant call them Nazis anymore on this forum after doing so for years. And you pretty much practically called them and treated them as sub human during Covid, did you not?

I still believe in spite of our differences that we all basically want the same thing, and that we are more alike than different

And where in the blue fuck was this mindset the past 10 years? Show me just ONE example of you approaching any conversation to prove this.

Democrats have not propose a bill to take guns away, we just want the same treatment of owning a gun as owning a car.

This is absolutely asinine.
So constant "assault weapons ban" demands just magically never existed? Mandatory buyback programs being discussed by people like Beto Orourke never happened? Blue states having extremely strict gun laws?

You do realize that owning a gun is a Constitutional right and owning a car is a privilege? Owning a car is not a right protected by the Constitution. You want to equalize them? Okay I guess no more background checks to buy a gun anywhere according to you.

THE RHETORIC OF THE DEMOCRAT PARTY AND MAINSTREAM MEDIA MURDERED CHARLIE KIRK.

[3deroticer]

I have not listen to the press conference as of writing at the time. But yes I have heard that the shooter felt that Charlie Kirk wasn't conservative enough. I called Trump fascist and a NAZI, that is true. But I am mindful that I have relative that are old time Republicans, and they also fought against the NAZI's and also did not vote for Trump, for the first time not voting for a Republican. So I can not nor condone calling all of them NAZI and Fascist. Generalizing a group to demonizing them is what got FOXnews and Trump in trouble for jumping the gun before they had the facts, and generalize all liberals as radical leftist as being dangerous to the country. We disagree on the privileged of owning a gun, as in the constitution says a "well regulated Militia" and it's been known disagreement of that terminology of many political scholars, it is a amendment, which means someday it can be change. The constitution also calls for the right to an equal education, which our govt has violated by with holding funding for the public schools. The court has ordered the gov't to pay for the education.

[Hiram]

As an NRA member, I can see why the left wishes to take our defense weapons away from us so they can kill us.

Could be this though.

[StrikezOne]

I have not listen to the press conference as of writing at the time. But yes I have heard that the shooter felt that Charlie Kirk wasn't conservative enough.

Think about how absurd this is.
Imagine a Miami Dolphins fan. He tours the country to talk about the Dolphins and convince people that theyre a good team. He knows the players, the stats, the history and is out there promoting them. Then some fucking guy, also a Dolphins fan but just sits at home, decides he wants to kill the guy who goes around the country because he "isnt a big enough Dolphins fan."
The only thing more ridiculous about this statement is that you actually believed it, and thought it had merit.

I called Trump fascist and a NAZI, that is true. But I am mindful that I have relative that are old time Republicans, and they also fought against the NAZI's and also did not vote for Trump, for the first time not voting for a Republican. So I can not nor condone calling all of them NAZI and Fascist.

You and a good portion of the left called all Trump supporters either fascists, racists, nazis, white supremacists, you name it. What do you think will happen when thats all the Left says to describe conservatives. The left is not capable of conversation and debate, I mean you literally said this like a month ago:

Are you having fun debating with yourself? We told you we can't debate with you, this is a one sided thread, if we debated with you on anything we get ban for a week or so. So if you wanted a rebuttal its not going to happen, but if you throw accusation at me, I can defend myself, and yes it was you that posted a graphic to make your claim, that I link you the snope debunking it.

Instead of saying some roundabout crap about "oh, well Trump this, Trump that," how about you acknowledge how violent the left has gotten, take accountability, say no one should celebrate death and that you will call out anyone who does so?

We disagree on the privileged of owning a gun, as in the constitution says a "well regulated Militia" and it's been known disagreement of that terminology of many political scholars....

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.

The constitution also calls for the right to an equal education, which our govt has violated by with holding funding for the public schools. The court has ordered the gov't to pay for the education.

And where exactly does it say that, Mr "Trump cant read"?