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« Reply #5535 on: December 29, 2016, 01:18:42 PM »
Can you imagine if Trump was behind this "anti-Israel" UN resolution? I bet someone would have posted about it the very same hour it became news and shitted all over Trump. But you know, since it was Obama.... Here we are, days later and not a peep. (maybe now someone will come and justify the fuck out of it.)

And oh yeah:

Oh and Obama "the constitutional scholar" just signed Big Brother into law: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-24/obama-signs-countering-disinformation-and-propaganda-act-law

Quoted for truth.
Imagine if Obama, Kamala, or Biden survived two assassination attempts and the media not publicly destroying the reputation of everyone who issued even the most mild criticism of them and then just dropping the story completely.

Yeah, I cannot either.

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« Reply #5536 on: January 01, 2017, 11:57:10 PM »
It's only big brother if you're some shitty grassroots "news" site or a foreign hacker.

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« Reply #5537 on: January 02, 2017, 08:25:17 PM »
It's only big brother if you're some shitty grassroots "news" site or a foreign hacker.

Imagine if Obama, Kamala, or Biden survived two assassination attempts and the media not publicly destroying the reputation of everyone who issued even the most mild criticism of them and then just dropping the story completely.

Yeah, I cannot either.

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« Reply #5538 on: January 02, 2017, 08:35:12 PM »
"If you got nothing to hide, you got nothing to fear!"

"I dont own a gun so if they abolish the 2nd Amendment, who cares?"

"I dont want to hurt anyones feelings so might as well get rid of freedom of speech!"

Who would have loved to have these kind of citizens in their country? The Founding Fathers or Hitler?

Imagine if Obama, Kamala, or Biden survived two assassination attempts and the media not publicly destroying the reputation of everyone who issued even the most mild criticism of them and then just dropping the story completely.

Yeah, I cannot either.

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« Reply #5539 on: January 03, 2017, 07:14:46 AM »
"If you got nothing to hide, you got nothing to fear!"

"I dont own a gun so if they abolish the 2nd Amendment, who cares?"

"I dont want to hurt anyones feelings so might as well get rid of freedom of speech!"

Who would have loved to have these kind of citizens in their country? The Founding Fathers or Hitler?
Yes. Trump.
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« Reply #5540 on: January 03, 2017, 10:03:12 PM »
"If you got nothing to hide, you got nothing to fear!"

"I dont own a gun so if they abolish the 2nd Amendment, who cares?"

"I dont want to hurt anyones feelings so might as well get rid of freedom of speech!"

Who would have loved to have these kind of citizens in their country? The Founding Fathers or Hitler?
Yes. Trump.

Hmm.  ??? You do know that Trump is a big supporter of the US 2nd Amendment dont you? He plans on placing a more conservative in the Supreme Court to make sure the 2nd Amendment is protected. Trump also is really anti political correctness... I mean, really, Trump wants people who dont want to hurt anyones feelings? Who did the NRA support?

And on the other hand, Hillary said "The Supreme Court is wrong on the 2nd Amendment." Hillary was going to continue the "Obama legacy" which included signing 23 executive orders against the 2nd Amendment. She was all about that safe space, PC/censorship.

But hey I get it! People hear the word Hitler and they wanna say Trump! YAY! How fun! Thats a bingo!
Imagine if Obama, Kamala, or Biden survived two assassination attempts and the media not publicly destroying the reputation of everyone who issued even the most mild criticism of them and then just dropping the story completely.

Yeah, I cannot either.

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« Reply #5541 on: January 03, 2017, 10:10:05 PM »
Well, the new Congress is off to a rousing start!

In a secret session on Monday, GOP House members voted to gut the independent Office of Congressional Ethics, apparently feeling that the House Ethics Committee was good enough. But the vote got out in time to make the morning news, and there was so much outrage - even from other Congressmen - that they had to quickly beat a retreat. Even the President-Elect got on their case about it; although it must be stated that he did actually refer to the OCE as "unfair", and was only really concerned about their not dealing with more important things first.

Perhaps he was referring to their list of some 200 regulations that the House GOP would like to do away with. Gersh Kuntzman of the NY Daily News has read the list, and prepared a summary (full article here):

1. Get rid of rules calling for more nutritious school lunches.
2. Move the inspection of catfish from the USDA's Food Safety and Inspection Service back to the FDA. The change was made back in March, and made all catfish, both foreign and domestic, subject to inspection. The FDA was only covering one to two percent of foreign catfish. So in effect, going back could make the catfish we eat less safe.
3. Get rid of the Rural Utilities Services' guaranteed loan program. This program provides loans, grants, and other guarantees to small communities working to upgrade their utilities infrastructure. The GOP hates it because the program is being used to help expand clean energy generation (wind and solar).
4. Get rid of a rule that required stores participating in the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (aka Food Stamps) to stock a wider variety of healthy foods. Some retailers hate the rule because they have to get more inventory if they want to participate. But the rule also stated that junk foods like Twinkies and pork rinds could not be accepted in place of real food.
5. Stop the FDA from regulating cigars and smokeless tobacco products. The rule they want to get rid of was primarily aimed at expanding the FDA's authority to cover e-cigs, but it also gave them "additional tools to reduce the number of illnesses and premature deaths associated with tobacco product use." So the GOP prefers more deaths and illnesses from under age tobacco use.

There's more, but you get the idea.

Meanwhile, we're still waiting to hear how Trump will divest himself from his businesses. He can say he'll step aside, but that's not good enough. Especially since foreign governments are already booking rooms and scheduling events in his DC hotel in an effort to curry favor. As reported in The Atlantic, it's virtually impossible for him not to be influenced by such apparent trivialities. Study after study after study has shown that doctors are easily influenced in their prescription choices by even the most insignificant of "gifts".

It seems that the general public isn't taking Trump's word for it - or for anything else, for that matter. A Gallup Poll just released shows that most people don't have confidence in him to be able to handle an international crisis or deal with scandals in his administration. While a majority do have confidence in him to handle the economy and work with Congress, the percentage is much lower than that of our three previous presidents when they were preparing to take office.

To be fair, Gallup notes that there's a sharp divide in "confidence" when you look at the breakdown by political party, and that you have to take into account the fact that confidence in government is at a low to begin with. But it must be noted that presidents tend to take office on a high note, with "political capital" to spend on getting their major policy initiatives pushed through Congress. Trump, even if he did have any real policy initiatives, has essentially no political capital to spend....

Oh, and by the way, it kind of got shoved into the background after the election, but did they ever straighten out the mess with Melania's work visa paperwork? Last I heard, it looks like she was working as a model in the US when she wasn't legally able to do so....
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« Reply #5542 on: January 04, 2017, 07:19:19 AM »
"If you got nothing to hide, you got nothing to fear!"

"I dont own a gun so if they abolish the 2nd Amendment, who cares?"

"I dont want to hurt anyones feelings so might as well get rid of freedom of speech!"

Who would have loved to have these kind of citizens in their country? The Founding Fathers or Hitler?
Yes. Trump.

Hmm.  ??? You do know that Trump is a big supporter of the US 2nd Amendment dont you? He plans on placing a more conservative in the Supreme Court to make sure the 2nd Amendment is protected. Trump also is really anti political correctness... I mean, really, Trump wants people who dont want to hurt anyones feelings? Who did the NRA support?

And on the other hand, Hillary said "The Supreme Court is wrong on the 2nd Amendment." Hillary was going to continue the "Obama legacy" which included signing 23 executive orders against the 2nd Amendment. She was all about that safe space, PC/censorship.

But hey I get it! People hear the word Hitler and they wanna say Trump! YAY! How fun! Thats a bingo!

Yes, for his loyal fans and supporters rewarding them (as he always does people loyal to him - in other nations this is called nepotism) to have a good army of storm troops against his opposition and opposition that soon has to flee in exile.
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« Reply #5543 on: January 04, 2017, 10:28:45 PM »
Tensions between Russia and the United States died down a bit following Trumps victory. Hillary was dead set on the fight against the Syrian government (proxy war against Russia) and wanted a NO FLY ZONE.

Now we have Barack Hussein Obama going full retard pretty much trying to provoke a war with Russia before he leaves office. Troops are being stationed around the Russian border. Obama wants to kick out Russian officials, what is he xenophobic now? What else will he do before he leaves office? Maybe he will order some kind of attack on Russia.

Oh, and by the way, it kind of got shoved into the background after the election, but did they ever straighten out the mess with Melania's work visa paperwork? Last I heard, it looks like she was working as a model in the US when she wasn't legally able to do so....

That's racist.  ::)
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« Reply #5544 on: January 05, 2017, 05:22:10 AM »
It's only big brother if you're some shitty grassroots "news" site or a foreign hacker.

Gov't orders Apple to put software backdoor on their Iphone but CEO refuses. Seems real to me and everyone with an Iphone.

Whatever happen to the right of privacy? You know the 4th amendment?

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« Reply #5545 on: January 05, 2017, 02:21:43 PM »
Breitbart News which has been reporting about a burning church Dortmund (Germany) has been demasked by German police as fake news distributor. Shame on Breitbart.

Well to be more precise, they created the fake news.
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« Reply #5546 on: January 05, 2017, 09:36:48 PM »
you Dems, listen up. ya here? Obama's legacy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3DbR-fws8o
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« Reply #5547 on: January 06, 2017, 09:57:36 PM »
Sorry, I cannot take Louis Farrakhan seriously.

Meanwhile, we should by now all know about Trump's overseas conflicts of interests. Today, the Wall Street Journal published an investigation into his domestic ones:

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Wells Fargo & Co., for example, runs at least five mutual funds that own portions of Trump businesses’ securitized debt, according to an analysis of mutual-fund data conducted by Morningstar Inc. for the Journal.

The bank also is a trustee or administrator for pools of securitized loans that include $282 million of loans to Mr. Trump. And Wells acts as a special servicer for $950 million of loans to a property that one of Mr. Trump’s companies partly owns, according to securities and property filings.

Wells Fargo is currently facing scrutiny from federal regulators surrounding its fraudulent sales practices and other issues. Once he takes office, Mr. Trump will appoint the heads of many of the regulators that police the bank.


Over at The Atlantic, Conor Friedersdorf commented that since many of these types of business debts don't have to be disclosed,

"...it is easy to imagine Trump covertly benefitting or punishing one of his creditors (depending on his analysis of what’s preferable). He needn’t be in a position to directly appoint regulators to do so. He often posts tweets that laud or vilify corporations with huge consequences for their stockholders. How many corporate leaders would quietly forgive debt if the stock of their biggest competitor would be tanked, rather than their own?"

We've already seen companies' stock prices flutter on a tweet from Trump. How much profit did that make for day traders? What might they offer Trump in exchange for another tweet?

To those of you going to dismiss the WSJ as the usual liberal media, they are the exact opposite. They are the newspaper of and for Big Business. "Wall Street" is right there in their name. So when they are worried about Trump, you should be, too......
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« Reply #5548 on: January 06, 2017, 10:13:20 PM »
Hopefully he can do more good after he leaves, as Farrakhan said. I hope the good American people can stay standing during the upcoming 4 or 8 years. And I hope with my deepest hopes that Trump can't undo a single thing America has fought to hard to achieve domestically. I hope he achieves nothing he sets out to.

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« Reply #5549 on: January 07, 2017, 08:03:59 AM »
Amen to that.