[3deroticer]

This is the second time you slander me!

[Cutter]

Different subject.  When it became available I had asked all of you here to join me with WorldCommunityGrid.org and help with the OpenPandemics-Covid-19 research project in an effort to help fight C-19.

This past Feb, 70 compounds had been selected for testing as potential inhibitors of C-19.  This is down from a group of over 20,000.  Recently 25 of those compounds were selected for lab tests.  I think this will translate to a one shot cure in the hospital for C-19 for those that had to be hospitalized.

My computers have been working on this since it started.

Yes, I am using my computer for something other than porn or playing games.

[StrikezOne]

You still didn't answer the question of how you are assuming that the stupid people are of color? What made you think that its them that are inferior? You threw in the assumption that it must be them? No where in the quote I was referring to them, you did that yourself! You threw that part in!

Heavens to Betsy....

You said you want to wait until ALL the "anti vaxxers" die off. Did you or did you not say that?
You called ALL the people who refuse the vaccine as inferior and unable to use their brain power. Did you or did you not say that?

Well guess what, there are a lot of African Americans who are refusing the vaccine. You are over here  insulting everyone, and expressing that you dont give a rats ass if they die, who is not wanting to get the vaccine which INCLULDE African Americans, which the majority of them are refusing the vaccine.

So now, I am using the liberals own logic here, and calling you out as a racist. You are a racist. And even further proof is that you defended yourself by basically saying "im not racist, I love the movie Hidden Figures." If that does not equate to a lower miserable example than the "I have a black friend," I dont know what does.

Take the L.

[3deroticer]

You assume that black people are inferior and stupid, I said there are many black people who are just as smart as the best of us. I gave you many example of black history of their contribution that refute your theory of black people. I still don't know why you assume that since I didn't even mention black people on stubborn people that wont listen to science and endangering everyone elses life. Then you assume that I must be talking about black people because you equate stupid suicidal people to them. So why do you think they are stupid and inferior?

"You said you want to wait until ALL the "anti-vaxxers" die off. Did you or did you not say that?
You called ALL the people who refuse the vaccine as inferior and unable to use their brain power. Did you or did you not say that?"

There is nothing there to point to black people!

This is the third time you call me a racist! I am offended!

[TheZookie007]

Different subject.  When it became available I had asked all of you here to join me with WorldCommunityGrid.org and help with the OpenPandemics-Covid-19 research project in an effort to help fight C-19.

This past Feb, 70 compounds had been selected for testing as potential inhibitors of C-19.  This is down from a group of over 20,000.  Recently 25 of those compounds were selected for lab tests.  I think this will translate to a one shot cure in the hospital for C-19 for those that had to be hospitalized.

My computers have been working on this since it started.

Yes, I am using my computer for something other than porn or playing games.

It's a great cause and I'm happy you shared it with us. I have it running on the same computer devoted to helping out SETI.

[salem]

Strikezone, 3deroticer, this is getting very childish.

First of all 3deroticer, stating that you want all anti-vaxxers to die off is a deplorable thing to say. I myself am vaccinated but if someone wishes NOT to be that is their choice and they have the right to their concerns. This vaccine was put together in a hurry, a fact pointed out by both Biden and Harris before the election. The fact remains that it is still a vaccine produced under Trump's watch, the difference being that there is a different administration in charge now, the buck stops with them. If Trump had won, it would most likely be the Democrats not wanting to take the vaccine, simply because Trump would be the one saying to take it. As is usually the case with these things, political posturing rules the day. If people are not going to take the vaccine based on who is President, that is the true sign of an idiot, not whether or not they feel it is safe. There is still a lot more research to be done on vaccines. It does not prevent SARS-COV-2 or stop it spreading, it wold be far better if they had simply marketed it as a 'preventative treatment' to stop hospitalizations.

Secondly, what strikezone is getting at is that a larger proportion of the black community is reluctant to take the vaccine, so by saying that you want ALL anti-vaxxers to die, by association you wish black people to die and that is why he thinks you are racist. This is of course absurd and the extrapolation is not logical. You can hardly be a racist if you are being indiscriminate in your disdain for anti-vaxxers. So in this case you are certainly right to feel aggrieved, it is a very unfair statement.

This is all getting very tiring and your constant bickering will be getting on everyone's nerves.

2 week ban for the pair of you. Let you both cool off.

[3deroticer]

I said that I do not root for the anti-vaxxer to die, meaning I still don't want people to die needlessly. But we are where we are with people refuse to listen to science and willingly clog our hospital. Now I know why This site hasn't ban misinformation about Covid, like many other site have done.

But that for the herd immunity to work, we need more people to do that, and it would be up for those that refuse to help to die off or survive for this to work.

10 years research went into the vaccine. That is the fact to say that this was rush is nonsense propaganda.

But hey You ban me for comparing Trump to NAZI's and ban me for that , and while ignoring name calling and NAZI comparison by Strikezone. I kind of knew you what your position would be. I find it interesting that just stating that "I am offended in being called a Racist" would be construe as bickering. You will notice that Strikezone cutoff the sentence in bold letter to make it sound like I was rooting for all people to die. That the part you read.

The scientist that researched for a vaccine had left the country because of Trump obstruction for the research. To say he had credit in helping is a joke. Biden stated that to start production was rush and got the FDA approval afterward.

[salem]

I said that I do not root for the anti-vaxxer to die, meaning I still don't want people to die needlessly. But we are where we are with people refuse to listen to science and willingly clog our hospital. Now I know why This site hasn't ban misinformation about Covid, like many other site have done.

But that for the herd immunity to work, we need more people to do that, and it would be up for those that refuse to help to die off or survive for this to work.

10 years research went into the vaccine. That is the fact to say that this was rush is nonsense propaganda.

How can there have been 10 years research into a vaccine for a novel virus that has been around for less than two years? There has been vaccine research on SIMILAR viruses, but this a novel (new) virus.

[solvegas]

I said that I do not root for the anti-vaxxer to die, meaning I still don't want people to die needlessly. But we are where we are with people refuse to listen to science and willingly clog our hospital. Now I know why This site hasn't ban misinformation about Covid, like many other site have done.

But that for the herd immunity to work, we need more people to do that, and it would be up for those that refuse to help to die off or survive for this to work.

10 years research went into the vaccine. That is the fact to say that this was rush is nonsense propaganda.

You have just been banned for two weeks man. Don't make it permanent because I enjoy your video morphs so don't stir any more shit for a couple of weeks, ok.

[salem]

No-one will be getting permanently banned, sol. I encourage free speech, I am just tired of the two of them and their endless bickering.

[TheZookie007]

I said that I do not root for the anti-vaxxer to die, meaning I still don't want people to die needlessly. But we are where we are with people refuse to listen to science and willingly clog our hospital. Now I know why This site hasn't ban misinformation about Covid, like many other site have done.

But that for the herd immunity to work, we need more people to do that, and it would be up for those that refuse to help to die off or survive for this to work.

10 years research went into the vaccine. That is the fact to say that this was rush is nonsense propaganda.

How can there have been 10 years research into a vaccine for a novel virus that has been around for less than two years? There has been vaccine research on SIMILAR viruses, but this a novel (new) virus.

The technology that was used to create the vaccines against COVID-19 has been in development for around 10 years. This was the first time it had to be deployed against this particular novel coronavirus:

The rapid development of COVID-19 vaccines in under a year has raised concerns, which can lead to vaccine hesitancy. But AMA member Peter Hotez, MD, PhD, reassures that while the COVID-19 pandemic has spurred global cooperation for vaccine research and distribution, it has been a decade in the making.

“We created a center here in Texas to develop vaccines that the big pharma companies are not in a position to make because there's not a financial model for the shareholders,” Dr. Hotez said during a recent episode of the “AMA COVID-19 Update” about his 10 years of work with coronaviruses. He is the dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine, and professor of pediatrics and molecular virology and microbiology at Baylor College of Medicine in Houston.

“About 10 years ago, we got connected to  a virology group at the New York Blood Center led by Shibo Jiang, MD, PhD, and Lanying Du, PhD, who had a pretty good idea for coronavirus vaccines,” said Dr. Hotez who is also co-director of the Center for Vaccine Development with Maria Elena Bottazzi, PhD at the Texas Chi!dren’s Hospital. “At the time, interest in coronavirus vaccines was not high. They were sort of orphaned, so we adopted it just like we adopted Chagas disease vaccines and leishmaniasis vaccines.”

“We formed a consortium, together with the Galveston National Laboratory (Kent Tseng, PhD) and Walter Reed Army Institute of Research,” he said.

Groundwork for COVID-19 vaccine

“With coronaviruses, these are pandemic threats, so they seem to arise out of nowhere and cause explosive epidemics and pandemics,” Dr. Hotez said, noting that this was happening with the severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) in 2002, which “rose out of Southern China” and affected “Ontario and shut down Toronto.”

In 2012, middle eastern respiratory syndrome (MERS) “did a lot of damage on the Arabian Peninsula and in South Korea, so we adopted this coronavirus vaccine program and we've learned a lot over the last decade,” he said. “We learned that the spike protein is the soft underbelly of the virus. And we showed that if you deliver the spike protein as a vaccine, it's highly effective—induces what are called virus-neutralizing antibodies.”

“All that work we did over the last decade has laid the groundwork for our current generation of COVID-19 vaccines,” said Dr. Hotez, adding that “the vaccines for Operation Warp Speed build on our research, and my colleagues’ research over the last decade, showing how we can deliver the spike protein—it’s a 10-year R&D program just like any other vaccine.”

Dr. Hotez said the decade-long history of research and development behind the safe and effective vaccines going into Americans’ arms has not been adequately publicized.

“That’s unfortunate because if more people knew that, then more people would be accepting of COVID-19 vaccines,” Dr. Hotez added. 

Read about what doctors wish patients knew about COVID-19 vaccination.

[BacE]

Thank you TheZookie007, for making this clear.

[TheZookie007]

Thank you TheZookie007, for making this clear.

You are welcome, BacE. The only way we can get out of this crisis is to be sure to amplify the truth, based on science and data. We cannot afford to allow agents of disinformation to continue to do their evil work. This is literally a matter of life and death.

[TheZookie007]

Some positive news:

The New York Times: "In Portugal, There Is Virtually No One Left to Vaccinate"

Portugal’s health care system was on the verge of collapse. Hospitals in the capital, Lisbon, were overflowing and authorities were asking people to treat themselves at home. In the last week of January, nearly 2,000 people died as the virus spread.

The country’s vaccine program was in a shambles, so the government turned to Vice Adm. Henrique Gouveia e Melo, a former submarine squadron commander, to right the ship.

Eight months later, Portugal is among the world’s leaders in vaccinations, with roughly 86% of its population of 10.3 million fully vaccinated. About 98% of all of those eligible for vaccines — meaning anyone over 12 — have been fully vaccinated, Gouveia e Melo said.

“We believe we have reached the point of group protection and nearly herd immunity,” he said. “Things look very good.”

On Friday, Portugal ended nearly all of its coronavirus restrictions. There has been a sharp drop in new cases, to about 650 a day, and vanishingly few deaths.

Many Western nations fortunate enough to have abundant vaccine supplies have seen inoculation rates plateau, with more than 20% of their populations still unprotected. So other governments are looking to Portugal for possible insights and are watching closely to see what happens when nearly every eligible person is protected.

False dawns in the coronavirus pandemic have been as common as new nightmare waves of infection. So Portugal could still see a setback as the delta variant continues to spread globally.

There have been worrying signs from Israel and elsewhere that protection offered by vaccines can fade over time, and a worldwide debate is raging over who should be offered booster shots and when.

Portugal may soon start offering boosters to older people and those deemed clinically vulnerable, Gouveia e Melo said, and he was confident they could all be reached by the end of December.

But for the moment, as bars and nightclubs buzz with life, infections dwindle and deaths plummet, the country’s vaccination drive has succeeded even after encountering many of the same hurdles that caused others to flounder.

The same flood of misinformation about vaccines has filled the social media accounts of the Portuguese. The country is run by a minority left-wing government, a reflection of its political divisions. And, according to public opinion polls, there was widespread doubt about the vaccines when they first arrived.

Gouveia e Melo has been credited with turning it around. With a background working on complicated logistical challenges in the military, he was named in February to lead the national vaccination task force.

Standing 6 feet, 3 inches, the admiral made it a point to wear only his combat uniform in his many public and television appearances as he sought to essentially draft the nation into one collective pandemic-fighting force.

“The first thing is to make this thing a war,” Gouveia e Melo said in an interview, recalling how he approached the job. “I use not only the language of war, but military language.”

While politicians around the world have invoked a similar martial rhetoric, he said it was critical to his success that he was widely seen as detached from politics.

He quickly assembled a team of some three dozen people, led by elite military personnel — including mathematicians, doctors, analysts and strategic experts from Portugal’s army, air force and navy.

Asked what other countries can do to bolster their own vaccination efforts, he did not hesitate to offer his best advice.

“They need to find people who are not politicians,” he said.

Before the pandemic, Portugal was fortunate to have a robust national vaccination program. It grew out of the country’s devastating experience battling polio, which was still affecting the country after Gouveia e Melo was born in 1960. He recalls when the daughter of a family friend fell ill from the disease and the suffering that followed.

Manuela Ivone da Cunha, a Portuguese anthropologist who has studied anti-vaccination movements, said that “vaccine doubters and anti-vaxxers are in the minority in Portugal, and they are also less vocal” than they are in many other countries.

[TheZookie007]

You are welcome, BacE. The only way we can get out of this crisis is to be sure to amplify the truth, based on science and data. We cannot afford to allow agents of disinformation to continue to do their evil work. This is literally a matter of life and death.

Case in point: while Tuckums and company blatantly lie to their audience and put their lives in danger, this is a scene from the Faux News bureau in Washington DC.

If a person cannot get vaccinated for legitimate medical reasons, OK. But if that person not only is vaccinated and works in a business where their mask mandates are even more stringent than the president is asking, and goes on TV every night to lie and lie and lie...there's a special place in Hell for such a person.