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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #180 on: September 28, 2008, 07:53:11 AM »
Liquidity problem could be solved by taking centi-millionaire Paulson and kicking him in the ass a couple of times, along with the CEOs who ran their companies into the ground...ain't gonna happen though.

Obama won that debate, but McCain gave a surprisingly good fight, despite his refusal to look at Obama almost the entire time (Lehrer tried his best), and despite his constant lies. McCain kept on harping on his POW experience and was name-dropping foreign leaders' names like they'd paid him or something. Experience is one thing, but experience in the wrong things wouldn't help us -- and most of McCain's experience led us to the wrong war in the wrong country the wrong way.

NBC's Saturday Night Live: "1st Presidential Debate"
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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #181 on: September 28, 2008, 01:06:59 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH5R1s5_w5E&eurl=http://www.crooksandliars.com/

David Letterman says of John McCain that something smells bad and now John Kerry sums it up pretty much the rest of it.

Interesting to note that Barack Obama didn't try to use his official position to steal the limelight on the financial crisis and spread credit where credit is dued, and even then some to John McCain for showing up.

Kind of like the debate, When Obama could have delt the condescending card and came back harsh on John McCain. He didn't want it and pass up the negativity and stayed on the positive.

Watch for the gallup polls on Monday 29th of Sept. The first polls to reflect the debate!
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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #182 on: September 28, 2008, 02:11:06 PM »
not to be rude to anyone, but I think "the US financial crisis" is a hoax...and the the media world is buying it.
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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #183 on: September 28, 2008, 03:25:36 PM »
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not to be rude to anyone, but I think "the US financial crisis" is a hoax...and the the media world is buying it.



i agree i think its a hoax, and the govt. controls the media to further its agenda
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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #184 on: September 28, 2008, 05:47:44 PM »
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PET said:
not to be rude to anyone, but I think "the US financial crisis" is a hoax...and the the media world is buying it.



I agree in the sense that I don't think it's a crisis and that the US will crumble because of it.  They just call it a crisis so people will be like "SHURE U CAN GIEF 700 BILLION DOLLAR 2 COMPANY 2 SAV AMURICA FRM TERORISTS!"

I mean, it's a bad situation, and not doing anything would fix it.
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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #185 on: September 29, 2008, 08:18:58 AM »
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pedonbio said:In short, despite claims to the contrary, the two-party system was written into the Constitution. And for third-party fans, get a clue: There is no easy way to build a majority. Working with the raw material of history is a messy and sometimes dangerous job.



Indeed, history is messy. I do think that a 3rd party will help bring balance to the system at some point - unfortunately, I don't think it rise in popularity so much by building a majority through awareness as the messy self destruction through corruption of the existing 2 parties.
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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #186 on: September 29, 2008, 09:41:31 AM »
yeah, as sad as it is that all people's views are supposed to be represented by these 2 narrow parties, its not like you can run a minority government in the republic system you have running.  the only thing a 3rd party would do, depending on where along the political spectrum it was based, is hand the congress and white house to one of the 2 existing parties every time by vote splitting...
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« Reply #187 on: September 29, 2008, 11:25:57 AM »
I think a 3 party would be just more mess. The corporation will be able to outspend the public no matter how many party the system support.

Make lobbying for cash illegal, and then the public will be heard again.
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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #188 on: September 29, 2008, 04:30:35 PM »
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pedonbio said:
In short, despite claims to the contrary, the two-party system was written into the Constitution. And for third-party fans, get a clue: There is no easy way to build a majority. Working with the raw material of history is a messy and sometimes dangerous job.



I like it messy.  You're getting pretty ornery these days, PB.

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ChrisR1

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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #189 on: September 29, 2008, 05:34:06 PM »
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3deroticer said:
I think a 3 party would be just more mess. The corporation will be able to outspend the public no matter how many party the system support.

Make lobbying for cash illegal, and then the public will be heard again.



And therein lies the rub - it's not in the interest of those in charge to pass that sort of legislation. And all to often when these moves come up to vote (and now I'm talking on the California state level, for example), they fail after being blasted by groups that the general public mistakenly holds in high esteem - the teacher's union, the nurse's union, the public employee's union... When in fact the  union doesn't necessarily represent the views of teachers, nurses, etc.
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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #190 on: September 30, 2008, 01:03:58 AM »
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« Reply #191 on: September 30, 2008, 01:19:19 AM »
The color of money.

 
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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #192 on: September 30, 2008, 01:38:41 AM »
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Good one, gOOb!
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« Reply #193 on: October 01, 2008, 02:36:17 AM »
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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #194 on: October 01, 2008, 08:08:08 AM »
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Real Time with Bill Maher: "New Rules", Sep. 9, 2008


Nice.

For about the last 10 secs, I thought I was having technical difficulties.  Turns out the person who edited the video thought it would be beneficial to have it loop a small segment repeatedly.  

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