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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #195 on: October 01, 2008, 10:21:14 PM »
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For about the last 10 secs, I thought I was having technical difficulties.  Turns out the person who edited the video thought it would be beneficial to have it loop a small segment repeatedly.  


Yeah, that was messed up. Not under my control, though. Here's something to make up for it (esp. at the 1:42 mark):

Real Time with Bill Maher: "New Rules", Sept. 18 2008
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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #196 on: October 05, 2008, 05:34:52 PM »
Wow, I give you comedy, I give you boobs, and no response. Sarah Palin certainly has turned a few heads 'round here

Anyhoo:

SlateV.com: "From the Convention to the First Debate...in less than 4 minutes"
Onion News Network: "Obama Runs Constructive Criticism Ad Against McCain"
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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #197 on: October 05, 2008, 05:59:54 PM »
Oh, c'mon, Zookie! I was enjoying  Bill's new web site too much.

Oh, and I don't see any reason to end the arms race of busty weather women.
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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #198 on: October 05, 2008, 06:29:03 PM »
Wow, I thought he was joking about creating that site!
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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #199 on: October 05, 2008, 07:37:25 PM »
As crazy as it sounds, one result of the utterly putrid Millenium Electronic Property Act is that if a person mentions a web site on broadcast TV, they are legally required to own the URL. That's how  this site got started, because Conan O'Brien told a joke.
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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #200 on: October 05, 2008, 07:50:16 PM »
Barney and Barry. Separated at birth?

 
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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #201 on: October 05, 2008, 08:19:43 PM »
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pedonbio said:
As crazy as it sounds, one result of the utterly putrid Millenium Electronic Property Act is that if a person mentions a web site on broadcast TV, they are legally required to own the URL. That's how  this site got started, because Conan O'Brien told a joke.


So you mean, if I'm a man on the street, and a news reporter interviews me, and I inadvertently mention a URL, I have to purchase it if I didn't own it already? I've never even heard of the Act! This is crazy...or a fantastic opportunity.
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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #202 on: October 06, 2008, 07:21:18 AM »
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TheZookie007 said:
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pedonbio said:
As crazy as it sounds, one result of the utterly putrid Millenium Electronic Property Act is that if a person mentions a web site on broadcast TV, they are legally required to own the URL. That's how  this site got started, because Conan O'Brien told a joke.


So you mean, if I'm a man on the street, and a news reporter interviews me, and I inadvertently mention a URL, I have to purchase it if I didn't own it already? I've never even heard of the Act! This is crazy...or a fantastic opportunity.



Sounds crazy to me.  And I'll give you (literally) an example:

 According to RFC 2606, the following top level domains are reserved:

.test
.example
.invalid
.localhost

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      ".test" is recommended for use in testing of current or new DNS
      related code.

      ".example" is recommended for use in documentation or as examples.

      ".invalid" is intended for use in online construction of domain
      names that are sure to be invalid and which it is obvious at a
      glance are invalid.

      The ".localhost" TLD has traditionally been statically defined in
      host DNS implementations as having an A record pointing to the
      loop back IP address and is reserved for such use.  Any other use
      would conflict with widely deployed code which assumes this use.




Also, the IANA has the following second-level domains reserved for documentation purposes:

example.com
example.net
example.org

So if a person on broadcast TV says something like "... for example, kissingfish.example.com, ...", there's a fundamental problem in trying to legally get that domain name, and *especially* in trying to implement it technologically in such a way that it would be reachable on teh intarwebs as we know it.

I for one would get out a bowl of popcorn and a comfy cushion if someone on TV mentions a URL which fits the description listed in RFC 2606.  

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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #203 on: October 06, 2008, 09:14:30 AM »
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TheZookie007 said:
So you mean, if I'm a man on the street, and a news reporter interviews me, and I inadvertently mention a URL, I have to purchase it if I didn't own it already? I've never even heard of the Act! This is crazy...or a fantastic opportunity.




That's the way the NBC legal department interprets it, but only if you are an employee of NBC. In the man-on-the-street example it wouldn't apply unless the man-on-the-street is an NBC employee.

Hey, I said it was crazy.
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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #204 on: October 07, 2008, 03:12:40 AM »
Crazy like a fox, and not a Firefox either.

Meanwhile, when a presidential candidate becomes desperate, they go for the smear and the negative campaign ad. Witness McCain's Mini-Me repeating the old "Obama pals around with domestic terrorists" lie. Barack's boys shot back with a 13-minute web video which documents the Keating 5 scandal and John McCain's role in it. These guys are on point
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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #205 on: October 07, 2008, 03:24:35 AM »
Charlie Gibson of ABC was interviewing four guys (all white, by the way) in Dayton, Ohio, about how the bad economic conditions in their area would sway their vote. One said that this was the first time in his adult life, but he was voting Democratic this year. Another one said, "I'm putting country first...and voting for Obama."

No one ever won the presidency in the past 11 elections without winning Ohio (which explains why the neocons tried so hard to rig the election in 2000)...and today Obama leads by six points in the state. Of course, four weeks is an eternity in politics, so you never know.
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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #206 on: October 07, 2008, 04:16:56 AM »
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TheZookie007 said:
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pedonbio said:
As crazy as it sounds, one result of the utterly putrid Millenium Electronic Property Act is that if a person mentions a web site on broadcast TV, they are legally required to own the URL. That's how  this site got started, because Conan O'Brien told a joke.


So you mean, if I'm a man on the street, and a news reporter interviews me, and I inadvertently mention a URL, I have to purchase it if I didn't own it already? I've never even heard of the Act! This is crazy...or a fantastic opportunity.




This is absolutely not true of print -- I've quoted probably 100 websites in the last year for daily newspapers. In fact, they want the links. I don't know where this comes from.

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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #207 on: October 07, 2008, 07:49:26 AM »
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TheZookie007 said:
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pedonbio said:
As crazy as it sounds, one result of the utterly putrid Millenium Electronic Property Act is that if a person mentions a web site on broadcast TV, they are legally required to own the URL. That's how  this site got started, because Conan O'Brien told a joke.


So you mean, if I'm a man on the street, and a news reporter interviews me, and I inadvertently mention a URL, I have to purchase it if I didn't own it already? I've never even heard of the Act! This is crazy...or a fantastic opportunity.




This is absolutely not true of print -- I've quoted probably 100 websites in the last year for daily newspapers. In fact, they want the links. I don't know where this comes from.



He never said it was true of print.

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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #208 on: October 07, 2008, 08:47:03 AM »
This is a long but important piece. Beware: incendiary words ahead.
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Jack & Jill Politics: "When Their Supporters Call Obama A Terrorist And Demand His Assassination, McCain And Palin Remain Silent"

Everyone has their threshold. I've just reached mine. Thanks to AmericaBlog for pointing me to this and this. Also a hat tip to TPM Election Central.

John "Country Last" McCain and Sarah Palin held some truly hate filled rallies on Monday. Here's a montage from McCain's hatefest 2008.

During this rally, a McCain supporter answers the question posed by Senator Country Last, "Who is the real Barack Obama?" The unmistakable answer: terrorist!

McCain says nothing.

From The Washington Post and AmericaBlog on Palin's rally:
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"Now it turns out, one of his earliest supporters is a man named Bill Ayers," Palin said.

    "Boooo!" said the crowd.

    "And, according to the New York Times, he was a domestic terrorist and part of a group that, quote, 'launched a campaign of bombings that would target the Pentagon and our U.S. Capitol,'" she continued.

    "Boooo!" the crowd repeated.

    "Kill him!" proposed one man in the audience.

    Palin went on to say that "Obama held one of the first meetings of his political career in Bill Ayers's living room, and they've worked together on various projects in Chicago."




Palin says nothing.

I understand why McCain and Palin are going negative. The economy is falling apart around us, and they have no solutions. They are losing in Colorado, Florida, Ohio, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Nevada and Virginia. Obama, despite McCain's repeated claims, understands what a surge is, because he's pulling one off right now.

But the current political environment does not excuse remaining silent when a candidate for president is referred to as a "terrorist" in your presence. A desire to win does not excuse remaining silent during a threat on the life of a U.S. Senator at one of your rallies. There are no excuses for evil such as this. John McCain and Sarah Palin, the GOP and all who support them have lost all rights to legitimate argument. They are liars. They are wrong. They are evil. Yes, evil. They are one small step short of inciting violence at their rallies. They are letting physical threats go unchallenged.

I was at Obama's rally at Independence Square in Philadelphia back in April. When he mentioned Hillary Clinton's name, the crowd booed, and he told them to stop. Barack Obama intervened when his supporters booed his opponent. He called for civility. Yet, when faced with supporters who label senators terrorists and call for their assassination, John McCain and Sarah Palin said nothing.

This is how evil spreads, from domestic violence to genocide. People in a position to stop it choose to do nothing.

John McCain is obsessed with his own honor. No one believes in the myth of the maverick as thoroughly as he does. He's called for civility in campaign tactics while lying about Obama's position on sex education. That's ok. It's politics. If he weren't a bit of a hypocrite, I would get suspicious. But the man who would make his name synonymous with honor stoked hatred in his rally today and let one of his senate colleagues be referred to as a terrorist.

We know what America does to terrorists.

And while Obama and William Ayers served on a board together, this is nothing like McCain's pro-terrorist history. He voted repeatedly to protect domestic terrorists who bomb abortion clinics. He counts as an "old friend" one G. Gordon Liddy, an ex-convict who served time for the Watergate break-in, plotted to kill journalists, firebomb a think tank and called for violent resistance against the U.S. government. While Obama and Ayers's relationship is minimal and old news, McCain was on Liddy's show this year during the campaign and has accepted $1,000 from him as recently as February. So who's the terrorist?

Now to Sarah Palin.

This simple-minded, overwhelmed, frightened, delusional nitwit thinks she's doing "big things" by going on "the attack." She presumes to challenge Obama at his level as if she had earned her position rather than having been selected by an old white man for the job. She is filled with pride and self-adoration. She is a fool.

This weekend, she said Obama was "paling around with terrorists." (a lie debunked by CNN). The irony is almost crippling to my mental functions. This is from the woman whose church says terrorism vs. Israel is God's judgment. This is a woman who was so close to the radical, separatist Alaska Independence Party, that people thought she was a member. She spoke to their convention, and her husband was a seven-year member of this organization whose founder was killed in a "plastic explosives deal gone bad."

Palin would know about "paling around with terrorists." She fornicates with one.

A few weeks ago CPL posted a story which seemed plausible but couldn't be verified. It said Palin was a racist. While the specific truth of that story is still unsettled, the pattern is clear: this ticket is painting Obama as the "other" and someone to be feared. This campaign is counting on stoking prejudice and racism. The McCain-Palin campaign is grotesque and dangerous. They are picking up where Hillary left off, but have gone much, much farther. They are presiding over hate rallies where people feel free to yell out murderous threats, and the candidates smile it off and keep going, essentially endorsing such mob mentality.

I want to know who still supports this ticket. I want to know because if anything should happen to Barack Obama. If he so much as slips on the jetway or stubs his toe playing basketball, I'm holding John McCain and Sarah Palin responsible, and I'm holding those who vote for them responsible for doing nothing to stop an atmosphere of violence. Enough is enough.

Those of you who have retained your soul and your senses, I ask you do to the following in response to this insane and hate-filled campaign.

1. Make sure you are registered to vote. Go to voteforchange.com

2. Volunteer. The campaign built on hope, rather than hate, needs election poll workers in key states like Virginia and Pennsylvania (big up Voter Suppression Wiki!). We need phone calls from home. Donate money.

3. Spread the word about McCain and Palin's dangerous beliefs and outlandish hypocrisies. Send these to your undecided or right-leaning friends in swing states.

4. Pray, meditate or otherwise send positive vibes to protect Obama and our country from these forces of darkness masquerading as legitimate political candidates.

Don't be one of those people that recognizes wrong and evil and does nothing to stop it. We are all responsible for creating the world we want to see. Let's go about doing that.


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« Reply #209 on: October 07, 2008, 08:58:50 AM »
Some of this is Secret Service stuff. It's not right for either campaign. I hope these haters are being arrested.