[Hiram]

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TheZookie007 said:

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Yahoo! News: "Obama hails 'extraordinary' moment with presidents"

The thing I most like about Obama is how carefully, and skilfully, he uses the English language.  It’s not just that he is articulate, he is, but he chooses his words so well IMO.  

Comparing him with Dubya is like light and day.

Americans chose well.

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[PregNut]

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Hiram said:

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TheZookie007 said:

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Yahoo! News: "Obama hails 'extraordinary' moment with presidents"

The thing I most like about Obama is how carefully, and skilfully, he uses the English language.  It’s not just that he is articulate, he is, but he chooses his words so well IMO.  

Comparing him with Dubya is like light and day.

Americans chose well.

It's not what he says, but how he says it.


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[midsize]

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Hiram said:

Comparing him with Dubya is like light and day.

Either you're being ironic, or that's a gem of a Bushism
 

I heard somebody on the radio the other day talking about the difference between what he called eloquence of explanation and eloquence of inspiration (or something like that). His argument was that too often eloquence is meant as eloquence of inspiration -- which can be simply rabble rousing or demagoguery. Eloquence of explanation is the ability to elegantly communicate complicated ideas and information to people in a way that they can readily grasp; his prime example being the Gettysburg Address.

If Obama possesses the eloquence of explanation, then it is about not just "what he says", but indeed also "how he says it." Pretty language and language that prettily explains tough and complicated ideas to the public are not identical, and the latter will certainly help in the next few years. Obama's detractors like to scoff at his being called eloquent, but it's not necessarily empty rhetoric if it's the right kind of eloquence.

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[TheRover]

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Hiram said:

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TheZookie007 said:

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Yahoo! News: "Obama hails 'extraordinary' moment with presidents"

The thing I most like about Obama is how carefully, and skilfully, he uses the English language.  It’s not just that he is articulate, he is, but he chooses his words so well IMO.  

Comparing him with Dubya is like light and day.

Americans chose well.

They are almost all articulate when they have prepared, rehearsed speeches.  I've seen Obama stumble at a few press conferences...let's see how some of those those go before we anoint him the next Cicero.

[Hiram]

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midsize said:

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Hiram said:

Comparing him with Dubya is like light and day.

Either you're being ironic, or that's a gem of a Bushism

Unfortunately, that was my bad syntax.

I think your point about eloquence is a good one.  But I like the preciseness of Obamas sentences, he is a lawyer afterall.

[TheZookie007]

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SwitcherX said:
   

Oh, Switcher, that really made me laugh! Thanks!

-- TheZookie "his fonts got serifs goddam" 007

[TheZookie007]

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USA Today: "Obama, Spider-Man on the same comic-book page"

In a growing world of Barack Obama collectibles, one item soon may be swinging above the rest.

On Jan. 14, Marvel Comics is releasing a special issue of Amazing Spider-Man #583 with Obama depicted on the cover. Inside are five pages of the two teaming up and even a fist-bump between Spidey and the new president.



"It was a natural after we learned the new president is a Spider-Man fan," says Marvel editor in chief Joe Quesada about reports that Obama once collected Spider-Man comics. "We thought, 'Fantastic! We have a comic-book geek in the White House.' "

The White House transition team did not respond to a question about the extent of Obama's comic-book geekiness, but Obama did mention Spider-Man during the campaign, primarily at children-oriented events. And during an Entertainment Weekly pop culture survey, Obama said Batman and Spider-Man were his top superheroes because of their "inner turmoil." (John McCain picked Batman.)

In the story by Zeb Wells, Todd Nauck and Frank D'Armata, Spider-Man stops the Chameleon from spoiling Obama's swearing-in. At one point, Spider-Man says he mistook Vice President-elect Joe Biden for the Vulture (a vintage Spider-Man villain).

The issue, selling for $3.99 at comic-book specialty shops (find one at comicshoplocator.com), is expected to be an instant sellout, especially because the Obama cover, by Phil Jimenez, is limited to half the run.

"This issue will have a lot of heat and go for premium prices. I already have people calling about it," says Alan Giroux, owner of All About Books and Comics in Phoenix. "I expect this will be on the collectors' market for $20 by the first day."

Presidents have been supporting characters in comics before: During World War II, superheroes fought Hitler as Franklin D. Roosevelt cheered them on. John F. Kennedy appeared in Action Comics #309 in 1963, when he helped protect Clark Kent's secret identity.

"If I can't trust the president of the United States, who can I trust?" Superman tells Kennedy.

That issue appeared a week after Kennedy was assassinated. DC Comics had to explain later that it was too late to recall the book.

Presidents have appeared as more shadowy figures in recent years.

"We do our best to be completely non-partisan and treat presidents with respect," Quesada says.

"This is not so much a pro-Obama statement but a tip of the hat to having a Spider-Man fan in the White House."

Would McCain have gotten a special issue had he won?

Says Quesada: "If McCain was a Spider-Man fan, I'm sure he would."

[notty]

That's pretty cheesy.

[DruulEmpire]

I think our President-elect has enough on his plate without trying to save these guys from the misfire that was the third movie.

Not sure that even looks like Obama -- and for that matter, Spidey is beginning to resemble the dreaded Red Skull.

Although -- they would have been willing to do this for McCain?  Really?  Wouldn't quite have the same vibe.  Sure, Spidey's a "maverick," but you wouldn't want to see him in prison.

[TheZookie007]

Yeah, I thought Spidey was looking a little Red Skull-y in that picture as well...and at this rate, the only way John McCain will appear in a Marvel comic is if they stick him in an issue of the old What If...? franchise.

[PregNut]

This kind of idol worship makes Obama look more and more like the leader of a brainwashing cult than the next leader of the world's most powerful nation.

[TheZookie007]

"Idol worship"? Please. Obama is not the first president to appear in a comic book, as my link showed, and he is not the first famous person to be so honored either. "Brainwashing cult leader", my ass.

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notty said:
That's pretty cheesy.

Real people in comic books always looks cheesy. The comic book style just doesn't lend itself to reality.

That's why while comic book heroes can look so cool, if they try to mimic specific actors, the characters in comic books based on movies look like horrible charicatures.

Most comic book artists tend to make everyone look like superman or batman.