[TheZookie007]

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JJ: The truce is over as Obama cartoonists fire away............

There was never really a ceasefire in the first place. I mean, really, those ears? Surefire comedy material right there. And on YouTube, he has been the subject of many impersonators, some of them very good ones:

YouTube: Alphacat: "Obama Picks His Cabinet!!!!"

YouTube: Alphacat: "Obama, I Can Do Whatever I Like" (spoof of T.I.'s "Whatever You Like")

[notty]

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TheZookie007 said:
I respond by wondering why out of everything I had to say, you are harping on the "Nader is an idiot" part. But well, that's your prerogative.

Because, if you're going to resort to name calling, at least be creative about it.

[notty]

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pedonbio said:
Notty has never said (that I could find) that she "likes" Nader. She has said that she "respects" him, which is the point at which we disagree. Apropos of "liking" him, those of us anywhere near the political pole notty and I are both fairly close to, know that NOBODY actually "likes" Ralph.

This is true. I respect Nader, but I like PB. Well, not the last few days, but that'll pass.

[70ChallRT/SE]

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TheZookie007 said:

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Starscream said:
I saw something on the news about Obama re-taking the oath of office "just to be safe"

Yes, he did. This is a man who dots his Is and crosses his Ts. Of course, it's not stopping some loonie bin bloggers from trying to say that he isn't president because he didn't swear on a Bible...obviously reading comprehension is a thing unknown to them, since Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution makes no mention of the necessity of swearing on a Bible. When he and the other members of the Illinois state senate were sworn in, none of them swore on Bibles either...and of course we all know people who've sworn on a stack of Bibles and still were found to be lying through their adulterous teeth.

And Chief Justice John Roberts is a poopyhead.

I bring up this point for anybody who cares.
Since we are quoting the U.S. Constitution, how about throwing this into the mix?

Section 6. The Senators and Representatives shall receive a compensation for their services, to be ascertained by law, and paid out of the treasury of the United States. They shall in all cases, except treason, felony and breach of the peace, be privileged from arrest during their attendance at the session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any speech or debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other place.

No Senator or Representative shall, during the time for which he was elected, be appointed to any civil office under the authority of the United States, which shall have been created, or the emoluments whereof shall have been increased during such time: and no person holding any office under the United States, shall be a member of either House during his continuance in office.

Basically, Obama and his team circumvented this Constitutional Amendment by having Hilary take a salary $1,400.00 less than Rice was earning before the Secretary of State salary increased earlier this month. (note that she will still earn more than her current salary as Senator)

Since there has been so much talk of "W" stepping all over the Constitution during his tenure, would it not be fair to throw Obama under the same bus? Before he was even sworn into office, he used his vast knowledge of the "piece of paper" to get what he wanted, regardless of what Constitutional Law mandates.

I don't see much in the way of "change" or "hope" to be honest, a politician is a politician. They are all liars that hold their own agenda above that of "serving" this country.  

It is not my wish to see this man fail as POTUS, rather the contrary. I hope for a better economy, a more stable future, and a safe, secure nation for my little one to grow up in. I would however like to see a politician for once following the letter of the law he has sworn an oath to uphold, rather than sidestepping them.

As a side, I have taken an oath in my lifetime to uphold the law. I followed it to the letter, and my choice to do so cost me dearly for not bowing to elected officials who would have me make certain provisions as "favors" for them. I do not regret my actions, I stood for my beliefs, and will see politicians as nothing but self serving egocentrics until I am proven wrong by seeing an honest elected official performing their duties as described.

[notty]

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70ChallRT/SE said:
As a side, I have taken an oath in my lifetime to uphold the law. I followed it to the letter, and my choice to do so cost me dearly for not bowing to elected officials who would have me make certain provisions as "favors" for them. I do not regret my actions, I stood for my beliefs, and will see politicians as nothing but self serving egocentrics until I am proven wrong by seeing an honest elected official performing their duties as described.

I definitely like you.

[70ChallRT/SE]

Thank you Notty, and I like you!
I enjoy reading every post you make, they are insightful, thought provoking, or just fun

[pedonbio]

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70ChallRT/SE said:


I bring up this point for anybody who cares.
Since we are quoting the U.S. Constitution, how about throwing this into the mix?

Section 6.

No Senator or Representative shall, during the time for which he was elected, be appointed to any civil office under the authority of the United States, which shall have been created, or the emoluments whereof shall have been increased during such time: and no person holding any office under the United States, shall be a member of either House during his continuance in office.

Basically, Obama and his team circumvented this Constitutional Amendment by having Hilary take a salary $1,400.00 less than Rice was earning before the Secretary of State salary increased earlier this month. (note that she will still earn more than her current salary as Senator)  
 

Before you get too worked up about that, your complaint is really with Thomas Jefferson, who first did that in order to appoint James Madison to his cabinet.

Jefferson and Madison, who had a significant hand in writing the Constitution, interpreted that paragraph to mean what every scholar since has agreed with: It is an awkwardly worded way to prevent politicians from raising the salary of an office, then being appointed to the office.

One irony of the awkward wording is that it doesn't matter that the politician might have voted against the raise, or might have voted to abolish the office (as happened, I think, to an Eisenhower cabinet member).

[70ChallRT/SE]

Point taken Pedonbio.

I respect your knowledge of law, and your well informed response to my post.

The fact still remains, they took measures to circumvent this amendment, otherwise a reduction in salary for that particular seat would not have been taken. That raises a red flag for me on the basis of common sense.
I did not agree with many decisions made by Bush, nor do I subscribe to the policy of misinterpretation as an "out" for knowingly violating law. Bush had no right to do it, nor does any other person who holds a position in Government.

Surprising this "Emolument clause" hasn't been amended to prevent further controversy.

[gOOber]

I hope our first African American president will remind Americans to show a proper respect to a forgotten part of  our history.

[Dearc]

I have to admit that I overwhelmingly approve of Obama's order to reinstitute abortion funds.  Republicans, Christian right and the Catholic church forced millions of young women to bear ch!ldren they may not have been willing, able or ready to have.  Of course, let's not forget the victims of sexual assault and medical issues.  

In many 3rd world countries, overpopulation is one of many devastating problems.  Before mentioned groups response:  GOD LOVES YOU! Have MORE ch!ldren.  Just my 2 cents...

[70ChallRT/SE]

Dearc,
I would also overwhelmingly support funding for those in the last groups you mentioned, assault victims and those with medical problems.
I guess all others were forced by the Republicans, Christians, and Catholic church to be irresponsible and have unprotected sex? Where are the parents of these young victims of pregnancy? those who should have taught their offspring to use some discretion as they entered maturity.

[TheZookie007]

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gOOber: I hope our first African American president will remind Americans to show a proper respect to a forgotten part of  our history.

Now that was excellently done!

-- TheZookie "But seriously Sarah it's as cold as fuck up here " 007

[TheZookie007]

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pedonbio: By the way, Zookie, did you compare Nader to Alan Keyes? Better not tell Keyes that!  

The only thing I'd ever tell that Ultimate Playa Hata is, as Bossip does, "Ho, Sit Down"

Real Time with Bill Maher: "New Rules", Nov. 09, 2008

[Janus]

 Yeah... I'm an atheist, and I'm not sold on abortion, but please...continue to view people as one-dimensional or know their argument beforehand.

J- Yeah, odd duck is apt for me, I guess.

[Dearc]

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70ChallRT/SE said:
Dearc,
I would also overwhelmingly support funding for those in the last groups you mentioned, assault victims and those with medical problems.
I guess all others were forced by the Republicans, Christians, and Catholic church to be irresponsible and have unprotected sex? Where are the parents of these young victims of pregnancy? those who should have taught their offspring to use some discretion as they entered maturity.

It'd be easy to think of most women needing/wanting abortions because they can't handle the responsibility to have a ch!ld, or because they like to have so much sex, it finally caught up with them.

In case you missed it, I mentioned  3rd world countries.  These are countries with massive overpopulation, famine, disease, war of every type.  It makes sense to me: if you can't sustain yourself, your society, family, etc. don't have more.

As for young teens & 20 somethings hitting the beds, I  PERSONALLY believe they should bear it, and abortion should be only for medical reasons and/or special exceptions.  If they made it perfectly legal for all, I guess I wouldn't care.  But let's not forget one thing:  it's up to the women having them.