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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #1005 on: March 20, 2009, 07:30:47 PM »
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Yano...I kinda like Obama now that people aren't lining up to kiss his ass.


Sure they are, just not as many.
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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #1006 on: March 20, 2009, 09:27:43 PM »
lol totally.  what are ideas and actions next to the way the media hype happens to rub you.  we should probably all choose our politicians the way cool k!ds choose their music...
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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #1007 on: March 20, 2009, 11:47:34 PM »
Where in my post did I say anything about the media? Here's an idea for you: just read what I write and stop making inferences, because you suck at it.

However, since I know you won't stop, allow me to make an inference of my own: you are one of those people who aren't quite smart enough to realize how stupid they are.
To paraphrase Poul Anderson, "Intelligence is a wonderful thing. It provides us with reasons for doing what we were going to do anyway."

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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #1008 on: March 21, 2009, 01:14:30 AM »
yeah, that's obvious cuz.....youre annoyed by me.

that is the litmus for stuff right?  lol sorry if im smart enough to realize that's fucking stupid.

anyways so what do you do when he gets popular again?...
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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #1009 on: March 21, 2009, 01:43:39 AM »
You just did what I told you not to do. I guess I was wrong. You're too stupid to realize how stupid you are.

As for Obama, for a while I thought he was a con artist, which didn't appeal to me, but now that I realize he's a dick, I'm okay with the guy. And I'll probably continue to be okay with him.
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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #1010 on: March 21, 2009, 01:53:43 AM »
Hey Real, since you like to read between the lines, give me your interpretation of the following quote:

"Intelligence is a wonderful tool. It allows us to rationalize the actions we were going to take anyway."
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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #1011 on: March 21, 2009, 08:56:18 AM »
how do you guess you were wrong when that was your original inference?   i mean i dont mind, the things you write on message boards leave people to make inferences about what youve said.  no matter how much you want to cry about it, or have snap about things that are completely irrelevant because behind some laughable platitudes about cetain people's merit in even addressing you; in truth youre vapid.

so mabye the stupid indictments might be saved until you can keep track of your own words.  or mabye youre just far too stupid to realize how stupid you are...
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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #1012 on: March 21, 2009, 09:45:32 AM »
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Hey Real, since you like to read between the lines, give me your interpretation of the following quote:

"Intelligence is a wonderful tool. It allows us to rationalize the actions we were going to take anyway."




sorry i didnt see that, i was brought to the end of the last page.

i dunno, mabye that both you and i have opinions. one of us states them while the other whines about having their empty talk opposed, hence your original impetus to be a cow toward me in this thread.

now that obama's not so popular so you like him, i dont even see what we disagree on so much.  except once again that i annoy you.  reading this board i will infer with the utmost confidence that that is your ultimate limtus. so really, feel free to start with the grammar police and meerkats at any time.  im not so special really...
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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #1013 on: March 21, 2009, 10:53:53 AM »
Sorry Notty.
I live in a war zone.  Baltimore City IS a war zone. Its a 3rd frelling world city. Right in my own back yard. In 2007 289 people were killed. We have some of the strictest gun permit laws in the country (Only illinois and DC are stricter) and we are Numero Uno for cities under 750k for violent crime.  

So Yes I treasure my guns. They 3x have been the only thing that has kept me and my family safe.

Once in my appartment when I was single. 2x in the house in which I now live.  Cost to me for my weapons of choice less than 500 bucks. Cost to me to remove a criminal from society $104.59 $100 of which was removing the bloodstain from a wall in my foyer. (ammo costs money and the meth head didn't stay down when I shot him in the chest.) The other times well I didn't have to shoot them only make them see the error of their ways in entering my house.

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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #1014 on: March 21, 2009, 11:02:17 AM »
Greed is good Pedon, Its what causes people to want to go out and achieve. Its what gets people working. What you are mistaking is the LEVEL of greed.

Note how the ecconomic growth  of the US was virtually stagnant from the mid 60s to the late 70s. That is in a war economy AND a technological race to the stars with the Soviet Union. Without Defense and Space Spending the US was in a almost dead flat economic growth pattern. (remember Stagflation)

The Greed that erupted in 80s Wall Street is what Finally pulled out  The economic slump that was the period.

What you are seeing now is the consequence of shedding all the manufacturing and industrial capability of the US that has been occurring for the last 40 years. All these services and nobody can afford the services because we aren't producing anything. This is where the Excessive greed comes in Moving manufacturing over seas to increase the short term profitability of a company kills the company by removing chunks of its user base. Henry Ford was a smart man Pay the people that work for him a decent wage so they could buy some of the cars that they are making. Create Product loyalty in house.

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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #1015 on: March 21, 2009, 11:49:35 AM »
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how do you guess you were wrong when that was your original inference?




This is my point. Inferences are usually wrong. I probably shouldn't make them and you definitely should not.

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i mean i dont mind, the things you write on message boards leave people to make inferences about what youve said.




I don't think that's necessary. They'd certainly be better off if they didn't. Applying one frame of reference to another is a recipe for failure.

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no matter how much you want to cry about it, or have snap about things that are completely irrelevant because behind some laughable platitudes about cetain people's merit in even addressing you; in truth youre vapid.




Who's crying? Who's snapping? I'm telling you how it is, and you're not listening.

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so mabye the stupid indictments might be saved until you can keep track of your own words.  or mabye youre just far too stupid to realize how stupid you are...




Gosh, you sure told me!
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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #1016 on: March 21, 2009, 12:00:35 PM »
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i dunno, mabye that both you and i have opinions. one of us states them while the other whines about having their empty talk opposed, hence your original impetus to be a cow toward me in this thread.




Oh, snap! He called me a cow.

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now that obama's not so popular so you like him, i dont even see what we disagree on so much.  except once again that i annoy you.  reading this board i will infer with the utmost confidence that that is your ultimate limtus. so really, feel free to start with the grammar police and meerkats at any time.  im not so special really...




Yes, you annoy me. Probably more than any other person on the forum at the moment. I should not allow you to annoy me, because you are a waste of my time, but as anyone who knows me will attest, I'm always spoiling for a fight.

You annoyed me from the start. When you wrote that voting 3rd party was a waste of a vote, I thought it was one of the most asinine things I'd ever read. Unfortunately, nothing that you've said in the meantime has changed my opinion of you.
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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #1017 on: March 21, 2009, 01:38:21 PM »
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Pedonbio was totally a hippie!




It's that obvious, is it, notty? Staying poor in my profession is hard, but I manage.
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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #1018 on: March 21, 2009, 01:44:04 PM »
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Greed is good Pedon, Its what causes people to want to go out and achieve. Its what gets people working. What you are mistaking is the LEVEL of greed.






I don't think I'm mistaking anything. I don't remember Michael Douglas (or Michael Milkin, who really said it) adding a clause about greed in moderation being good. Cafeteria philosophy is as bad as cafeteria religion.
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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #1019 on: March 21, 2009, 05:09:23 PM »
wow 2 seperate posts and 6 broken down quotes, we really are riled up arent we?  fact is this whole back and forth came from your ignorant inference that i had no sense of humor. and just like a good message board battle-tard that's the first thing you want to cry about when someone argues with you lol.

some of us are here for on topic discussion, and some of us are here to be the resident stereotypical sour cow that every board needs.  and i dont begrudge you even, keeps things moving lol.

but now that we've been through the broad stroke inferences begun by you, the grammar police, the quoting of each phrase to branch out on a seperate tangent for argument's sake, before we hit the requisite rock bottom pancakes layer of your vapid facade, i grow weary.  

ill be back when i have something relevant to say to the topic, feel free to quote and fire back your self satisfied irrelevance for each sentence once more tho...


....and to that; americans do need to start batting an eye at the fact there's almost 10 000 gun murders a year, but its deeper than gun control.  we have about a gun a person in canada and nowhere near the same situation....
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