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Re: The Gene Splicer
« Reply #450 on: April 01, 2011, 11:01:22 PM »
OK, the only thing I'm wondering is if the head and hair should be made a little bigger because it looks like that's a little thrown off now.  I'm not sure; maybe I'm just nitpicking.  Usually when we put Juggs in a scene, she was just bigger than everyone else size-wise.

For what it's worth, the hair color is perfect.  Galvatron always used a white-blue for her hair, I always envisioned her with electric blue hair.
  

I see what you mean, it is a bit off now. Hmmm.. Her legs are so long maybe causing a forced perspective illusion. When I change the background I will up it 5% and see if that does the trick. For the background I was thinking of maybe a cracked or crumbling wall to tie in the Juggernaut aspect of her character. Cool glad you like the hair color. I was going with the same intensity as the pink hair Natalie had in Domino One.


EDIT: Heres the background test with a 10% head increase.
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Re: The Gene Splicer
« Reply #451 on: April 02, 2011, 01:34:01 PM »
Please forgive the additional opinion, but that 10% correction changed the figure from about 10 heads tall to about 9 heads tall, while Natalie in real life is 6.5 heads tall. A good compromise height would be about 7.5 or 8 heads; otherwise, her shoulders and neck will look too broad. Also, the morph's head seems to be positioned a little too far to our left in relation to the neck.
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Re: The Gene Splicer
« Reply #452 on: April 03, 2011, 08:53:32 AM »
Please forgive the additional opinion, but that 10% correction changed the figure from about 10 heads tall to about 9 heads tall, while Natalie in real life is 6.5 heads tall. A good compromise height would be about 7.5 or 8 heads; otherwise, her shoulders and neck will look too broad. Also, the morph's head seems to be positioned a little too far to our left in relation to the neck.

8 heads is the standard proportion for an ideal model. I set up the guidelines and got just shy of 8 heads with a 5% head reduction. So I dont know how you derived 10 heads. However from the size increase of the head it was off center and too far to the left. I realigned the head back to the center line. If my guidelines are correct then she needs to be taller.
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Re: The Gene Splicer
« Reply #453 on: April 03, 2011, 09:07:08 AM »
For comparison here is the full 8 head height with her legs lengthened. Granted the bend line is not exactly at 4 but if I remember right Juggs or Not had unbelievably long legs which would throw off the ideal proportion a bit and one of the reasons why I went with Keibler as the base.
I hope this addresses your concern Gonzo and I didnt go overboard with this.

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Re: The Gene Splicer
« Reply #454 on: April 03, 2011, 02:00:29 PM »
No, it's fine either way.

Here's how I got roughly 10 heads, though... When measuring the head, I didn't include the extra height added by the hair; instead, I estimated where the top of the skull would be. And I measured with the legs straight, not spread. (Both of those adjustments are customary when measuring proportions.) I was estimating when I wrote 10 heads; actually, the original figure was about 9.75 heads. But she's wearing 4" high-heels, so call it 9.5.
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Re: The Gene Splicer
« Reply #455 on: April 03, 2011, 02:04:20 PM »
without mathematical photo analysis, the head is a bit too small ;)
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Re: The Gene Splicer
« Reply #456 on: April 03, 2011, 07:12:51 PM »
Not enough head.

Now to be fair, when drawing superheros, they do say make the head smaller and the legs longer, so...

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Re: The Gene Splicer
« Reply #457 on: April 03, 2011, 10:29:07 PM »
No, it's fine either way.

Here's how I got roughly 10 heads, though... When measuring the head, I didn't include the extra height added by the hair; instead, I estimated where the top of the skull would be. And I measured with the legs straight, not spread. (Both of those adjustments are customary when measuring proportions.) I was estimating when I wrote 10 heads; actually, the original figure was about 9.75 heads. But she's wearing 4" high-heels, so call it 9.5.


Ah okay I will wait and see what Angelus thinks.
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Re: The Gene Splicer
« Reply #458 on: April 03, 2011, 11:52:58 PM »
why do I get the feeling everyone was making fun of me the last few posts?


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Re: The Gene Splicer
« Reply #459 on: April 04, 2011, 12:04:57 AM »
why do I get the feeling everyone was making fun of me the last few posts?



No I think they were  making fun of me and my lack of knowledge on the head to body ratio. I am more intuitive not rational when it comes to my art.

Should I be afraid to post a final and move on? I got her around a 9:1 ratio.

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Re: The Gene Splicer
« Reply #460 on: April 04, 2011, 07:00:02 AM »
No I think they were  making fun of me and my lack of knowledge on the head to body ratio. I am more intuitive not rational when it comes to my art.

Should I be afraid to post a final and move on? I got her around a 9:1 ratio.


Seriously, nobody was making fun of you or Angelus. The head originally looked somewhat small to me, but it's better in the newer revision. Do what looks and feels right to you; that's what all morphers ultimately do. Please keep going!
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Re: The Gene Splicer
« Reply #461 on: April 04, 2011, 08:54:42 AM »

Seriously, nobody was making fun of you or Angelus. The head originally looked somewhat small to me, but it's better in the newer revision. Do what looks and feels right to you; that's what all morphers ultimately do. Please keep going!
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Ya in the early tests it sure did. In this final, I think I found the  balance.  8)
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Re: The Gene Splicer
« Reply #462 on: April 04, 2011, 12:04:05 PM »
I like it.  *rubberstamps and signs off*

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Re: The Gene Splicer
« Reply #463 on: April 04, 2011, 06:44:29 PM »
Please forgive the additional opinion, but...  ;D
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Re: The Gene Splicer
« Reply #464 on: April 04, 2011, 10:57:25 PM »
Please forgive the additional opinion, but...  ;D
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Didn't you fall into a firey death pit in the middle of this thread?