[zeo]

How many times have we known or seen photos of women who have had incredible looking large breasts cut down in size and even made (much) less appealing in shape etc? Then there are those who go into showing off their breasts as much as possible.

There's a lot to be said for what happens to people based on their own experiences and how they react to them.

On another note, making fun of people who have something non-average is pretty common. Women on both sides of the breast side distribution curve get it. What I've found interesting is the difference in reaction when caught looking between the two extremes. (I'm usually one of the 'wrong' guys who isn't supposed to look which makes it interesting)

[pedonbio]

 Women who were only bosomy had rather minor careers, as in the case of one gal known simply as Dagmar back on Fifties television.

Druul, just as a reminder that it is always difficult to draw broad conclusions about aspects of culture, I am here to remind you that Dagmar had a couple of minor movie roles. Her appearance led to the naming of two symetrical nose-cone shaped protrusions from the bumbers of Cadillacs as "Dagmars". That, in turn led to the naming of the resulting shin fractures as "Dagmar fractures".

[gmantwo]

Go to a strip club some time and watch what happens when a truly big breasted women comes on stage. Guys who were previously barely noticing the dancers suddenly come to life and the wolf whistles start. Of course the gal eggs them on by providing the tease and show. My theory is that most men really do like large breasts but societal norms prevent them from acting on their feelings. How many guys here subjugate their big bust lust in front of friends and family because they don't want to appear abnormal?

I'm guessing bignats didn't intend this thread to take this direction, but it's taken on a life of it's own.

[BarneyFife]

Gmantwo, good point! I was going to mention what you described but glad you brought it up. I think strip clubs are a microcosim of what men's feelings are on big breasted women. I rarely see big breasted women at clubs however the few that show up do get the most hooping and hollering and probably make the most money. Money aside although strippers are supposed to be pretty they still get beat out by bigger busted women when it comes to many mens desires.

In regular soceity you have pretty women but the trump card usually is the breast size. A pretty women vs a pretty woman with big breasts who wins that battle? A average woman vs average woman with big breasts who wins that battle? Luckily personality and other qualities matter but just the initial desire I think big breasted women do have an advantage.

[gmantwo]

You'll notice almost all the traveling headliners at strip clubs have big boobs, the majority being implanted. I've talked to a few of them and they got the implants to become headliners.

[Pipatel]

http://beyondjane.com/women/are-big-breasted-women-more-intelligent/

So women with big breasts do have a reason to be thankful for - the boobies give them 10 IQ points more.

[RandomX]

God lord I don't sign my wife out before I post ONE time and I'll never hear the end of it.

And by the way, this conversation is dumb because we should be talking about how dudes with busty S/O's REALLY lead a charmed life.

Seriously. You post, I'll bug Proof until he replies. His response to that is always "they're already insanely jealous of me, I don't want them to HATE me!"

[RandomX]

Saying all big breasted women lead charmed lives isn't correct just like all short people live terrible lives because their always trying to prove themselves compared to a tall person who is powerful and has a presence. I am sure there are tall people that hate being tall.
 

That would be a good point except that you don't sexualize height.

I was going to mention what you described but glad you brought it up. I think strip clubs are a microcosim of what men's feelings are on big breasted women.

Perhaps, but that has nothing to do with women being treated better based on bust. All those men are whistling at are objectified women who they're now hoping to screw. Those women will then leave said stripclub, go home to their dead end lives with their daddy issues and abusive/unfulfilling relationships and do it all again the next day.

[bignatslover]

I'm guessing bignats didn't intend this thread to take this direction, but it's taken on a life of its own.

LOL you got that right.  But I definitely appreciate the big natural CEREBRAL power being flexed by our members here.  If I didn't know this was a breast forum, I would've thought I'd just walked into a MENSA meeting.

I'll try to keep my latest thoughts succinct:

• I agree that the fashion industry and the movie industry for the most part does not treat big-breasted women with favor.
• I agree that big-breasted women often get treated unkindly or with suspicion by their smaller-busted peers or from the collective public in its mob mentality.
• I agree that being big-breasted can be physically uncomfortable.
• I agree that women are human beings first, and any talk of breasts leading to the objectification of women is inherently wrong.
• I do happen to believe that almost all heterosexual men with normal hormonal makeup will tend to like big boobs over small ones (see exceptions addressed in next statement).
• I do happen to believe that a minority of such men will still insist on disliking large breasts and that, despite being hard for me to relate to, is still okay.
  
• I do happen to believe that still a portion of those men who say they dislike big boobs are letting societal conditioning or their own lack of introspection cloud their judgment.
• I do happen to believe that society's discomfort with seeing lots of cleavage (such as in the recent Lane Bryant ad) reflects a deep inner, intuitive knowledge that breasts are powerfully sexy.
• I do happen to believe that big breasts are the ultimate positive modifier in making a woman attractive, i.e. larger breasts will trump better hair, legs, skin, eyes, whatever.
• I do not believe in the inverse of the thesis; i.e. I do not believe that lacking breasts prevents a woman from having a charmed life.
• [Metaphysical weird moment] Given EVERYTHING we now know, if I had to be reincarnated as a woman, I would still want to be big-breasted over being small-breasted.
• I do not think it is easy or possibly even fair to make generalizations covering such a broad swath of humanity, which is probably why my idea that big-breasted women lead a charmed life will ultimately never be provable.

Humbly submitted.

[Feral]

Maybe if you could come up with an example that doesn't involve a stripper or porn star.

I mean let's say you have two MIT grads. One is top of her class, the other mid pack. The better student has mosquito bites. The other is an F. Does the F cup woman get paid more? Does she get more job opportunities? Does she epxerience a more rewarding career and marry  a better man, have healthier kids, drive nicer cars and just live a better life?

To me that's charmed.

Saying a woman can make a thousand dollars a week or so cash under the table for about ten years just by taking her top off and swinging from a pole and then possibly end up a coke head, prostitute or go from one bad relationship to the next is not charmed.

[RandomX]

Well put Feral. And to build on that point, she absolutely could get ahead if she used her breasts to get ahead in the world. She'd never be taken seriously as a professional though. She might make more money, but people would whisper behind her back about her **83** with the boss, etc.

Obviously it isn't on as large of a scale, but in your example, compare men to women. Men DO live a charmed life in that kind of scenario. Same grades, same education, yet men can go further in the world when women will generally get paid 75 cents to the dollar and hit a glass ceiling. If larger breasted women had any advantage (like men do in this situation), then yes we would live a charmed life.

So nope. Then we don't.

[ValNTx]

To answer the original question...It depends on the entire package or parts of the rest of the package.  I've had overweight friends or not what people would call "pretty" friends with very large breasts that get no more attention than the average person.  Women with obvious larger breasts that have an attractive face and reasonably fit body definitely lead a charmed life.

[dfdf]

I'm in huge disagreement on society norms somehow putting a clamp on male's lust for busty woman. I think the questions not being asked are what is big and what is too big. Society does in fact least aesthetically favor busty women, but it's important to remember that this is mainstream busty (C-DDD). These are woman like Christiana Hendricks, kim kardashian, coco austin. Look at the women in your videogames, animation, male oriented magazines,  male oriented shows. It's perfectly normal to like big breasts, but remember big is a relative term.

I don't like the idea of trying to rationalize a fetish or kink "See! We're the normal ones! The rest of you are just repressed!", no, there are a billions reason why not to like big breasts, just as there's a billion reason to like big breasts. At the end of the day breasts are breasts, big breasts, small breasts, or average sized, they're breasts. Your preferences for a certain size can be dictated by a number of things (experience, environment, culture.......etc), so nobody's being repressed.  

To answer the original question...It depends on the entire package or parts of the rest of the package.  I've had overweight friends or not what people would call "pretty" friends with very large breasts that get no more attention than the average person.  Women with obvious larger breasts that have an attractive face and reasonably fit body definitely lead a charmed life.

This is true. hate to break to people but most women with big breasts look nothing like Christiana hendricks or Merilyn Sakova. They're often times pretty heavy set women with big breasts but the breasts do nothing for their figure. Of course there are exceptions and those are the one's we generally lust over.

Again let me just reiterate attractiveness is no measurement for the quality of someone's life or a gauge for their happiness. It is naive  and a little silly to think that a big breasted woman - her breast size being one aspect of her life - has a charming life, especially in this day and age, where the popular opinion is the opposite.

[Feral]

I agree with dfdf.

I think to be an actress, a C cup might get you ahead of most and you can still be considered a "good girl" actress and available for any role. So you will generally see a lot of women get implants to achieve this, like Kate Hudson. D cups are borderline too big for most mainstream actresses. And DD is definitely too big - so actresses like Jennifer Connelly, Mimi Rogers, Katherine Heigl and Drew Barrymore either get them reduced or starve themselves into smaller cup sizes so they will not be typecast into bimbo roles.

Outside of Hollywood you can just about add 1 or 2 cups sizes before you get into what the normal mob mentality considers obscene or too big. I think depending on a woman's frame, F and G cups are just plain big and will get the attention of most guys and be openly lusted after - like September Carrino. I think once you get beyond that or if the woman is a BBW or light plumper, a lot of guys wouldn't openly admit they are attracted to her, unless (maybe if) they were in a strip club atmosphere - maybe. So yeah, most J, K, L cups are going to be considered obscene, or guys afraid of being typecast as weird will loudly proclaim the woman is fat or disgusting no matter what her body type. Assholes.

[Feral]

To answer the original question...It depends on the entire package or parts of the rest of the package.  I've had overweight friends or not what people would call "pretty" friends with very large breasts that get no more attention than the average person.  Women with obvious larger breasts that have an attractive face and reasonably fit body definitely lead a charmed life.

Interesting. I think you are the first woman to agree to this. Can you elaborate?