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Boston Marathon tragedy
« on: April 15, 2013, 05:38:33 PM »
I wanted to set up a place for the latest reports we all are gathering independently. Please share here.

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Re: Boston Marathon tragedy
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2013, 07:15:49 PM »
My best guess is that it was done by some domestic terrorist / anarchist group that hates the idea of Income Tax.
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To the sound of the breezes that blow...

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DruulEmpire

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Re: Boston Marathon tragedy
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2013, 07:29:34 PM »
It's a bit after 8 PM EST and all I'm hearing so far is this.  Two dead, nearly two dozen injured, by two blasts which went off within three hours of the first runner crossing the finish line.  There was a very possibly related explosion over in the JFK Library.  The police were able to detect and neutralize two other devices.

Shades of that silly movie "Swordfish," because ball bearings were found.  Remember that business about Travolta turning people into living claymore mines?  Someone wanted to cause maximal harm.  This reeks of terrorism, quite possibly homegrown, because it's all about victims and, maybe, symbolism.

I've said it before, and it still holds -- Evil hateth few things more than a peaceable assembly. :(

rtpoe: if you're correct, then these killers are staggeringly misguided even as terrorists go.  JFK cut taxes, and if we were all running the Boston Marathon, there'd be so much less health care needed.  
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pedonbio

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Re: Boston Marathon tragedy
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2013, 01:02:33 AM »
My best guess is that it was done by some domestic terrorist / anarchist group that hates the idea of Income Tax.

Interesting observation, rtpoe. NBC News commentary notes that the act bears several hallmarks of white supremecists.
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Re: Boston Marathon tragedy
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2013, 03:57:54 AM »
Funny how so many of these acts of domestic terrorism occur in the month of April.
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Re: Boston Marathon tragedy
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2013, 05:45:48 AM »
Funny how so many of these acts of domestic terrorism occur in the month of April.
April is the cruelest month.
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DruulEmpire

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Re: Boston Marathon tragedy
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2013, 03:36:13 PM »
I always thought T. S. Eliot got that wrong.  In winter, February is my cruelest month.

Zook, it's true that a lot of groups are fascinated by Der Fuhrer's birthday, April 20 (so watch out this Saturday, everyone), but this looks like it's all about Tax Day.  Anyhow --

Another random ch1ld is killed because ... because ... because ... ??? >:(

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Re: Boston Marathon tragedy
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2013, 04:09:53 PM »
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Re: Boston Marathon tragedy
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2013, 02:22:32 AM »
"As the nation weeps for the victims of the horrific bombing in Boston yesterday, one searches for lessons amid the carnage, and finds few. That violence is unacceptable stands out as one, sure. That hatred — for humanity, for life, or whatever else might have animated the bomber or bombers — is never the source of constructive human action seems like a reasonably close second.

But I dare say there is more; a much less obvious and far more uncomfortable lesson, which many are loathe to learn, but which an event such as this makes readily apparent, and which we must acknowledge, no matter how painful.

It is a lesson about race, about whiteness, and specifically, about white privilege.

I know you don’t want to hear it. But I don’t much care. So here goes.

White privilege is knowing that even if the Boston Marathon bomber turns out to be white, his or her identity will not result in white folks generally being singled out for suspicion by law enforcement, or the TSA, or the FBI.

White privilege is knowing that even if the bomber turns out to be white, no one will call for whites to be profiled as terrorists as a result, subjected to special screening, or threatened with deportation.

White privilege is knowing that if the bomber turns out to be white, he or she will be viewed as an exception to an otherwise non-white rule, an aberration, an anomaly, and that he or she will be able to join the ranks of Tim McVeigh and Terry Nichols and Ted Kaczynski and Eric Rudolph and Joe Stack and George Metesky and Byron De La Beckwith and Bobby Frank Cherry and Thomas Blanton and Herman Frank Cash and Robert Chambliss and James von Brunn and Robert Mathews and David Lane and Michael F. Griffin and Paul Hill and John Salvi and James Kopp and Luke Helder and James David Adkisson and Scott Roeder and Shelley Shannon and Dennis Mahon and Wade Michael Page and Byron Williams and Kevin Harpham and William Krar and Judith Bruey and Edward Feltus and Raymond Kirk Dillard and Adam Lynn Cunningham and Bonnell Hughes and Randall Garrett Cole and James Ray McElroy and Michael Gorbey and Daniel Cowart and Paul Schlesselman and Frederick Thomas and Paul Ross Evans and Matt Goldsby and Jimmy Simmons and Kathy Simmons and Kaye Wiggins and Patricia Hughes and Jeremy Dunahoe and David McMenemy and Bobby Joe Rogers and Francis Grady and Demetrius Van Crocker and Floyd Raymond Looker, among the pantheon of white people who engage in (or have plotted) politically motivated violence meant to terrorize and kill, but whose actions result in the assumption of absolutely nothing about white people generally, or white Christians in particular.

And white privilege is being able to know nothing about the crimes committed by most of the terrorists listed above — indeed, never to have so much as heard most of their names — let alone to make assumptions about the role that their racial or ethnic identity may have played in their crimes..."

-- Prof. Tim Wise
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Re: Boston Marathon tragedy
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2013, 02:36:32 AM »
Well said, Zookie.
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DruulEmpire

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Re: Boston Marathon tragedy
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2013, 06:05:20 AM »
Zook, I thank you and Prof. Wise for that list.  And yes, Steve King (the politician) is an idiot.

I continue to remember Adkisson, all the more because I think of him vis-a-vis Greg McKendry, a 60-year-old man who stood up to him to save everyone else and was the sole (immediate) fatality.  We keep seeing both sides of this struggle among us.  The Toronto Star is running a decent article on four people who stepped up in the immediate wake of the Boston chaos.

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Re: Boston Marathon tragedy
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2013, 09:20:07 AM »
what a field day for the heat
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pedonbio

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Re: Boston Marathon tragedy
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2013, 02:25:53 PM »
Of course it is important to keep perspective. In much of the world three dead in a bombing is what's called a quiet day. The same day there would have been 26 deaths by gun; but Congress has decided that our felons and insane folks aren't armed well enough.
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Re: Boston Marathon tragedy
« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2013, 06:34:23 AM »
And in a way a bit of good news.  Tag and bag one of them, too bad a cop died in a shoot out with them.

Information at this time puts it as 2 Checznia (Russia) Brothers.  They stole a car and later releasing the car owner, cops took pursuit, shots fired, bombs thrown at cops.  One brother shot and later died at hospital (aww).  Other one still loose and may have explosive vest.

Boston is on lockdown.  Cops have asked no one go to work at this time, stay at home.
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Re: Boston Marathon tragedy
« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2013, 08:23:36 AM »
Surely some of our fellow members are from the Boston area. We all wish you well. Meanwhile, do as authorities ask: don't go anywhere, stay inside, and answer the door only for police.