[Hiram]

Yes. Places like Debenhams do up to H cups and M&S do up to J/K cups. You just have to look.

I only have a look at bras when I'm with a woman - even then I'm conscious of not looking at the really big sizes.  Women can see out of backs of their heads.

I have some PDF files somewhere of Freemans catalogues from the 80s. I ordered them years ago for some research I was doing about bra sizing charts. There’s nothing beyond DD anywhere in them.

I used to love those thick paper catalogues that my mum would get.  It would have been the first time I'd ever seen lingerie probably.

This woman’s bra is pretty poor for her size.

The straps are digging in - that is going to get uncomfortable after a short while.  The nearest I get to this feeling is with a heavy backpack on - discomfort in the Trapezius is horrible.  Do women with a large bust get this as well as back problems?   I guess this is where a well fitted bras with tight band come in - so all the weight is taken by the band.

[Hiram]

I don't think Abbi cared about the proper fit for that photo

Probably not - but you can imagine the bra was made to be worn for longer than a photo shoot.

[Hiram]

What do you think about this ensemble?

[Margaret]

What do you think about this ensemble?

>Sigh< It’s really lovely, isn’t it? When I was a bit younger, I used to get besotted with things like this - and I’d buy them and wear them once or twice - then they’d lie in my drawer for years. The only way I can describe it is like this; you see it, you just want to look that good, and you buy it and go home and put it on and you feel absolutely amazing - I can’t emphasise that enough; the feeling of having it on is so rewarding, and when you see yourself in the mirror, you feel so sexy. Then you go out, and it’s all a bit fiddly and awkward (because you’re not used to wearing complicated things like that) - and, unless you’re undressing to please someone, you’re kind of keen to get out of it. But, I can tell you this… the reaction on the face when you take off your clothes is difficult to beat 😘😘

[Hiram]

>Sigh< It’s really lovely, isn’t it?

I thought so too.  I find this sort of thing much more alluring than nakedness.

When I was a bit younger, I used to get besotted with things like this - and I’d buy them and wear them once or twice - then they’d lie in my drawer for years. The only way I can describe it is like this; you see it, you just want to look that good, and you buy it and go home and put it on and you feel absolutely amazing - I can’t emphasise that enough; the feeling of having it on is so rewarding, and when you see yourself in the mirror, you feel so sexy.

You've articulated that very well.  I know exactly what you mean - not that as a man I've ever felt sexy; but I did like to look good.   Anecdotes I've heard from women have said that same.  I don't think men can really experience that feeling, at least not the way women can.

But, I can tell you this… the reaction on the face when you take off your clothes is difficult to beat 😘😘

I've said wow a number of times - the mutual appreciation and shared experience is fantastic in that situation.

More of the girl above - no nakedness - just nice lingerie pics -- https://www.reddit.com/user/Powerfull_xo/submitted/?sort=top

[Margaret]

>Sigh< It’s really lovely, isn’t it?

I thought so too.  I find this sort of thing much more alluring than nakedness.

When I was a bit younger, I used to get besotted with things like this - and I’d buy them and wear them once or twice - then they’d lie in my drawer for years. The only way I can describe it is like this; you see it, you just want to look that good, and you buy it and go home and put it on and you feel absolutely amazing - I can’t emphasise that enough; the feeling of having it on is so rewarding, and when you see yourself in the mirror, you feel so sexy.

You've articulated that very well.  I know exactly what you mean - not that as a man I've ever felt sexy; but I did like to look good.   Anecdotes I've heard from women have said that same.  I don't think men can really experience that feeling, at least not the way women can.

But, I can tell you this… the reaction on the face when you take off your clothes is difficult to beat 😘😘

I've said wow a number of times - the mutual appreciation and shared experience is fantastic in that situation.

More of the girl above - no nakedness - just nice lingerie pics -- https://www.reddit.com/user/Powerfull_xo/submitted/?sort=top

She’s a pretty lady. OnlyFans really is a huge thing now, isn’t it.

[Margaret]

I thought you’d be interested to see this - both from a social/historical perspective and from an aesthetic point of view. See attached.

This is from a Freemans (UK) catalogue in the mid-80s. I had some of these items (I was a teenager at the time). Look at the size availability; nothing beyond a so-called “DD” cup.

I say “so-called” because this was relying on the +4 sizing method, so you often ended up with a bra that the back band was too tight/too loose on, or you were relying on the shoulder straps to hold your boobs up. I recall my boobs bouncing all over the place in those days.

Still, some of the items are pretty (and, reasonably well-made underwired bras). Gossard still make really terrific bras and other lingerie - I don’t think Kayser exists though (I don’t recall ever buying their stuff). I tended to purchase Gossard, Lovable, Warners, Fantasie and the odd Playtex item (when they started doing “younger” stuff). Sometimes Lejaby, and, of course Marks and Spencer.

[Hiram]

She’s a pretty lady. OnlyFans really is a huge thing now, isn’t it.

Yeah it is - and people do make some significant sums doing it. 

[Hiram]

I thought you’d be interested to see this - both from a social/historical perspective and from an aesthetic point of view. See attached.

It is interesting to see how things have changed - and to reminisce.  I think it is also interesting to see how the physique of the models have changed. This may be down to fashion though and not necessarily how women were back then.  I do think women and men are broader than they used to be.

This is from a Freemans (UK) catalogue in the mid-80s. I had some of these items (I was a teenager at the time). Look at the size availability; nothing beyond a so-called “DD” cup.

Ah yes Freemans, forgot about them.  That's how I remember it, nothing over DD. 

I say “so-called” because this was relying on the +4 sizing method, so you often ended up with a bra that the back band was too tight/too loose on, or you were relying on the shoulder straps to hold your boobs up. I recall my boobs bouncing all over the place in those days.

An ill-fitting bra, not only uncomfortable, but damaging to the breast tissue I'd expect.  The good thing about the modern world is things are generally better designed, albeit not necessarily better made.   Didn't stockings used to have seams, and now they don't? 

Still, some of the items are pretty (and, reasonably well-made underwired bras). Gossard still make really terrific bras and other lingerie - I don’t think Kayser exists though (I don’t recall ever buying their stuff). I tended to purchase Gossard, Lovable, Warners, Fantasie and the odd Playtex item (when they started doing “younger” stuff). Sometimes Lejaby, and, of course Marks and Spencer.

I'll have to look up some of the brands you mention, I'm only really familair with Gossard and Playtex.  What was the slogan Playtex had, something about crossover?

Edit: I'm sure I know the name of the model too.  I just can't think if it.

[Hiram]

For comparison: Freemans today.

[Margaret]

For comparison: Freemans today.

Much better! And much more representative. I do like a Fantasie bra - they were expensive back in the 80s/90s - but much more competitively priced now. Really decent quality bras.

I’ve always wanted to know where the various big-boobed models from the late 80s/90s purchased their bras. Many of them must have been custom - or modified - or just smaller bras they forced themselves into. I’ve looked at a lot of photos of models like Sarenna Lee, Traci Topps and Tiffany Towers, and just can’t identify the brands. They’re probably long gone now.

[solvegas]

For comparison: Freemans today.

Much better! And much more representative. I do like a Fantasie bra - they were expensive back in the 80s/90s - but much more competitively priced now. Really decent quality bras.

I’ve always wanted to know where the various big-boobed models from the late 80s/90s purchased their bras. Many of them must have been custom - or modified - or just smaller bras they forced themselves into. I’ve looked at a lot of photos of models like Sarenna Lee, Traci Topps and Tiffany Towers, and just can’t identify the brands. They’re probably long gone now.

Don't forget that most bras in the 80's and 90's were manufactured in the USA and Europe to fit their women but the Chinese, thanks to slave wages and subsidies by their government were able to take over the market and so many western manufacturers are gone. 

[Margaret]

For comparison: Freemans today.

Much better! And much more representative. I do like a Fantasie bra - they were expensive back in the 80s/90s - but much more competitively priced now. Really decent quality bras.

I’ve always wanted to know where the various big-boobed models from the late 80s/90s purchased their bras. Many of them must have been custom - or modified - or just smaller bras they forced themselves into. I’ve looked at a lot of photos of models like Sarenna Lee, Traci Topps and Tiffany Towers, and just can’t identify the brands. They’re probably long gone now.

Don't forget that most bras in the 80's and 90's were manufactured in the USA and Europe to fit their women but the Chinese, thanks to slave wages and subsidies by their government were able to take over the market and so many western manufacturers are gone. 

True. Almost all bras in the UK/US market are made in China now - although most of the brands are IK/EU/US companies. I know brands like Curvy Kate use Chinese companies for their manufacturing. A tortuous process, from what I understand - but the results are mass-produced, quality garments that can be changed to other designs/specs almost overnight.

[Hiram]

Tiffany Towers, and just can’t identify the brands. They’re probably long gone now.

I think the only time I have seen Tiffany Towers in a bra that I can remember is in Scene 1 of the porn movie Boobarella (1992).  It always stuck in my mind.  It is one of my favourite scenes.

https://tubepornclassic.com/videos/1010436/tiffany-towers-in-boobarella/

I'm not sure it is that helpful to identify the bra she is wearing.

I'm surprised bras are not made in Bangladesh these days - China is too expensive now.

[Margaret]

Tiffany Towers, and just can’t identify the brands. They’re probably long gone now.

I think the only time I have seen Tiffany Towers in a bra that I can remember is in Scene 1 of the porn movie Boobarella (1992).  It always stuck in my mind.  It is one of my favourite scenes.

https://tubepornclassic.com/videos/1010436/tiffany-towers-in-boobarella/

I'm not sure it is that helpful to identify the bra she is wearing.

I'm surprised bras are not made in Bangladesh these days - China is too expensive now.

I’ve seen a few photos of her in a bra. I did an assessment of her on her thread a while back.