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Re: Overrated - Underrated: American Historical Document
« Reply #105 on: September 21, 2010, 10:29:57 AM »
I believe the 4 states were Kentucky , Maryland , Delaware and West Virginia . Am I right ?  <img src="/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />  


Sorry if this has been corrected in the last 7 years....but that was Delaware, Maryland, Kentucky, and Missouri, and after 1863....West Virginia...technically the 5th....My impression is that WV wasnt getting the representation that it wanted in Richmond and that they seceded because they wernt as dependent on Slavery as the other side of the mountains.
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Re: Overrated - Underrated
« Reply #106 on: September 21, 2010, 11:00:28 AM »
wow, correctional ultrabump :P
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Re: Overrated - Underrated
« Reply #107 on: September 21, 2010, 10:57:10 PM »

Sorry if this has been corrected in the last 7 years....but that was Delaware, Maryland, Kentucky, and Missouri, and after 1863....West Virginia...technically the 5th....My impression is that WV wasnt getting the representation that it wanted in Richmond and that they seceded because they wernt as dependent on Slavery as the other side of the mountains.

7 years later I'm corrected.

wow, correctional ultrabump :P


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Re: Overrated - Underrated
« Reply #108 on: September 21, 2010, 11:52:47 PM »
too bad ben affleck ruined him ;)

Disagree. Affleck was fine, as was the whole cast. Mark Steven Johnson (director) and that shitty script ruined that movie. No group of actors could have made that movie good.

Overrated: Star Trek: Deep Space Nine (how the hell did that series go on as long as it did?)
Underrated: Star Trek: Voyager (it has, like, the opposite awesomeness curve as DS9)
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Re: Overrated - Underrated: American Historical Document
« Reply #109 on: September 22, 2010, 02:14:29 AM »

Sorry if this has been corrected in the last 7 years....but that was Delaware, Maryland, Kentucky, and Missouri, and after 1863....West Virginia...technically the 5th....My impression is that WV wasnt getting the representation that it wanted in Richmond and that they seceded because they wernt as dependent on Slavery as the other side of the mountains.

Two points:

1) The Proclamation was written in September, 1862, to take effect the following January 1 to apply to states, or parts of states, then in rebellion. That was a fairly static period in the war, but in a more relaxed (or litigious) time it would have been difficult to figure out whether it applied to some areas.

2) To clarify what was meant, as I recall the proclamation contains a county-by-county breakdown of Louisiana and Virginia. The Union generals in the West had undertaken a mad dash to take control of the Mississippi River in the first weeks of the war, thereby cutting off the CSA's only reliable land supply routes, and cutting off Kirby Smith's Trans-Mississippi Department, which meant taking New Orleans and several surrounding parishes. Additionally, for some reason the CSA didn't see any point in defending Portsmouth and Norfolk, Virginia, so those areas had been in Union control almost since the beginning of the war and were considered loyal, so they could keep their slaves.

But to continue in the spirit of the thread:

Over-rated: Erwin Rommel--He did spectacular, but ultimately futile, things a long way away from Hitler.

Under-rated: Friedrich von Paulus--He did small, but ultimately futile, things with Hitler on his back, and he testified for the prosecution at Nuremberg.
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Re: Overrated - Underrated
« Reply #110 on: September 22, 2010, 06:25:13 AM »
overrated: hitler
underrated: Mao
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Re: Overrated - Underrated
« Reply #111 on: September 22, 2010, 02:36:11 PM »
Over-rated: Cyber Sex

Under-Rated: the Real deal
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Re: Overrated - Underrated
« Reply #112 on: September 22, 2010, 03:49:55 PM »
overrated: Naruto
underrated: Midori no Hibi
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Re: Overrated - Underrated
« Reply #113 on: September 22, 2010, 06:34:37 PM »
Overrated: Hurricanes

Underrated: Tsunamis
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Re: Overrated - Underrated
« Reply #114 on: October 03, 2010, 03:25:22 AM »
Underrated: Jordan Lyman, Seven Days in May

...And how can you not like the movie anyway? Kirk Douglas! Burt Lancaster! Frederic March! Ava Gardner! Directed by John "The Manchurian Candidate" Frankenheimer! Screenplay by Rod Serling!

Watch the last fourteen minutes of the movie here, and see if you won't vote to re-elect President Lyman.
I didn't get a chance to do so earlier, but I just finished watching the last 14 minutes of Seven Days in May as you asked us to. And I agree wholeheartedly with your conclusion. That, my friends, is a president in action.
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Re: Overrated - Underrated
« Reply #115 on: October 03, 2010, 07:32:32 AM »
Overrated: You.
Underrated: Me.
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Re: Overrated - Underrated
« Reply #116 on: October 03, 2010, 12:16:52 PM »
Overrated: You.
Underrated: Me.

congrats you have the same sense of humor as Q_BE
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Re: Overrated - Underrated
« Reply #117 on: October 03, 2010, 01:18:31 PM »
That was absolutely serious.
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Re: Overrated - Underrated
« Reply #118 on: October 04, 2010, 08:27:07 AM »
That was absolutely serious.

congrats you have the same humor as Q_BE :P
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Re: Overrated - Underrated
« Reply #119 on: October 04, 2010, 06:41:02 PM »
Overrated: Looking at boobs.

Underrated: Playing with boobs.
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