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Re: We Are All So Adult Now - but Remember When We Weren't
« Reply #105 on: August 18, 2009, 11:45:01 AM »
It may sound crazy, but in the old days a fella had to be 18 to get his hands on prurient materials — either that or have an easily bribable older brother. Or a friend with such a brother. Or a dad with an obvious stash. Not that I know anything about such matters. ::)



Ah, the lengths we had to go to just to glimpse a bit of relatively tame porn back in those pre-web days! :D

Aside from the 'techniques' you mentioned goob, there was always the 'lurk around the newstand' at night thing in order to buy a bunch of mags when no other customers were around... only one or two of them 'happened' to be adult in nature... as if the crusty old newsguy had no idea what was going on. ;)

And in more than one urban park/wilderness area of my youth, there were also those secluded spots where a highly motivated y0ung fellow with a sharp eye could spot fragments of old mags on the ground... usually old Playboys and often in bad shape having been out in the weather for a while. A collective natural resource of sorts. ;)

Also, all those then-'mainstream' sources: your mom's Cosmo magazine, a slightly racy photo from Time (believe it or not) and one one occasion, even a pizza box top, which featured artwork of some Spanish or Italian-looking queen with a surprising amount of bosom visible beneath her royal finery. :D

Someplace, I *THINK* I have a shoebox filled with such artifacts from my mis-spent youth... and have had the idea to scan/collage them for nostalgia/pity purposes, so all you whippersnappers can SEE how good you have it now. ;) One of these days...

Added later: as I was typing this, I THOUGHT that I had written an article for our late lamented BEhavior webzine on this very topic: called "Before we had Porn" or something like that. I don't recall which issue it appeared in, but here's the link for the BEhavior archive in case anyone is interested... there's a lot of good reading there... and a few contributors are still with us, so they'd appreciate the feedback even if it's years after-the-fact:


http://www.bearchive.com/~behavior/

Added still later: mostly so I can search the forum later for my own reference (apparently, the BEhavior index itself isn't searchable) I went through the BEhavior back issues and made a list of the articles I contributed... I didn't find a "Before we had Porn" item, so I either imagined it or it's missing. Anyway, for later reference:

BEhavior articles by Palomine still available online:

THE MODERN MALE MAMMAL : WHY ASK WHY?
A Collector's Confession by PALOMINE
http://www.bearchive.com/~behavior/v3n28/p1.html
(speculation about the motivations driving the collection of online porn)

OUTED!
article by PALOMINE
http://www.bearchive.com/~behavior/v3n27/p9.html
(the true-life tale of what happens when an offline friend 'recognizes' you from your online persona)

THE MODERN MALE MAMMAL: TIME, TONE, AND LINES
article by PALOMINE
http://www.bearchive.com/~behavior/v3n25/p9.html
(my first 'older woman' experience... 20+ years ago... coincidentally, we spoke on the phone this morning!)

OLDER AND BOLDER
article by PALOMINE
http://www.bearchive.com/~behavior/v3n22/p4.html
(thoughts about the positive virtues of older women)

THE MODERN MALE MAMMAL
sighting memoir by PALOMINE
http://www.bearchive.com/~behavior/v2n19/p10.html
(Letha Weapons or her twin at a Burbank microbrewery)

DIRTY BILL'S JUST REWARD
short story by PALOMINE
http://www.bearchive.com/~behavior/v2n17/p8.html
(Halloween horror fiction)

THE MODERN MALE MAMMAL:
THE JOY OF JIGGLE by PALOMINE
http://www.bearchive.com/~behavior/v2n16/p4.html
(why the 'motion in the ocean' holds so much appeal)

THE MODERN MALE MAMMAL
by PALOMINE
http://www.bearchive.com/~behavior/v2n14/p7.html
(a popular and well-endowed sitcom actress snaps and whips it out on prime-time network TV)

THE MODERN MALE MAMMAL
by PALOMINE
http://www.bearchive.com/~behavior/v2n12/p2.html
(a day in the life of a SoCal BB enthusiast)


BEhavior issues V2N5, V2N4, V2N3 and V2N2 appear to me missing from the BEA server, so I don't know what was in those issues. :(



« Last Edit: August 18, 2009, 12:26:04 PM by Palomine »

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Re: We Are All So Adult Now - but Remember When We Weren't
« Reply #106 on: August 18, 2009, 02:42:07 PM »
* MaxBigfoot puts his hand up to the "Or a dad with an obvious stash." option.  I'd love to find an online shop that sells the Beeline Books he used to have.

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Re: We Are All So Adult Now - but Remember When We Weren't
« Reply #107 on: August 18, 2009, 08:39:51 PM »
At least no one has become addicted to internet pornography. 8)
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Re: We Are All So Adult Now - but Remember When We Weren't
« Reply #108 on: August 20, 2009, 02:55:57 PM »
At least no one has become addicted to internet pornography. 8)

He's a WoW fanatic.

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Re: We Are All So Adult Now - but Remember When We Weren't
« Reply #109 on: September 30, 2009, 07:54:35 PM »
When I was a wee lad, we had beetles the size of Volkswagens infest our garage every fortnight and when we went out back to kill them with our flyswatters they would just kill us. Deader than a doornailed dust mite (which was called dust mighty for obvious reasons). Then the red and black ants would disembowel our carcasses and feed 'em to the dung beetles. Why, I was disemboweled sixteen times before my seventh birthday.
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Re: We Are All So Adult Now - but Remember When We Weren't
« Reply #110 on: October 01, 2009, 03:49:24 PM »
When I was a wee lad, we had beetles the size of Volkswagens infest our garage every fortnight and when we went out back to kill them with our flyswatters they would just kill us. Deader than a doornailed dust mite (which was called dust mighty for obvious reasons). Then the red and black ants would disembowel our carcasses and feed 'em to the dung beetles. Why, I was disemboweled sixteen times before my seventh birthday.

I just laughed so hard I scared my family.   ;D

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Re: We Are All So Adult Now - but Remember When We Weren't
« Reply #111 on: October 01, 2009, 09:06:10 PM »
Ah, the lengths we had to go to just to glimpse a bit of relatively tame porn back in those pre-web days! :D

Aside from the 'techniques' you mentioned goob, there was always the 'lurk around the newstand' at night thing in order to buy a bunch of mags when no other customers were around... only one or two of them 'happened' to be adult in nature... as if the crusty old newsguy had no idea what was going on. ;)


...

Thanks for your lengthy story, Palomine. You've answered quite a few questions about responding to a "discovery" of your online persona in real life, and made me laugh reading about how hard it was to get pornography back in the day. :P

Makes me appreciate the BEA even more. :)

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Re: We Are All So Adult Now - but Remember When We Weren't
« Reply #112 on: October 05, 2009, 06:06:26 PM »
Hey Goober - hope all your working parts survived the onslaught of the beatles -

Reading Palomine's tales of odd places to FIND men's magazines, as well as the furtive outright purchases of these kinds of magazines, reminds me of a couple of related tales. First there were the half size cartoon books. I can't remember a single brand name of these sexy cartoon compilations but I do recall that Bill Ward's work was a recurring staple. And he would usually have six to 12 of his busty dream girl visions in each one of these.

I discovered these items that were so very interesting on a foray into Manhattan, which was for a kid growing up in Long Island. a trip to the porn capital of the entire world. This was pre-internet and pre-personal computers, and even pre-VHS. Seeing a Ward beauty with those cavernous cleavages along with the most extreme carnal cravings was more than a young college kid like me had run-across in real life in those days.

But it was an hour or more away by train, or at least an hour's drive to park in the Queen's Boulevard Alexander's store parking lot,  then take the E Train into Manhattan. So a closer point of purchase was needed. Lo and behold, I discovered that the most local of all the magazine and cigarette stores in my town carried the smaller and tamer comics - obviously not the bigger Bill Ward Specials that could only be found in the sex shops on the Deuce (the 42nd Street/Times Square Area). That was the good news.

The bad news was that my next door neighbor was the owner of the shop. I couldn't imagine for one second that I could buy sexually oriented publications from him. So I discovered a news and magazine store two towns away that carried the same items. A trip to go out to buy cigarettes usually meant I'd be back home in not less than 90 minutes rather than the expected 10 minutes.

Years later I discovered that Woody Allen, the comedian and then later the film auteur had the same urges and desires. He even put a scene of this nature into his very first movie which was called Bananas(1971) . Which I saw in a revival movie house years later. Allen's character, Fielding Mellish, no doubt a play on the word nebbish which was an exact description of the character - nowadays -he would be called a geek -had the same urges and desires, just like me, and just like most males of a collegiate age (18-21). And he lived in Manhattan which meant easy access to porn.

But in those days one had to be circumspect when buying such materials. And it could never, never be left anyplace where one's mother might find it. So Allen portraying a left-wing, artsy, liberal, intelligent, smart-assed, smart-mouthed, sexually obsessed, and callow youth made his way to his favorite magazine store. As always he had to keep up appearances - so he picked up The Saturday Review, Harpers Magazine, and a few other high-brow movie magazines from the UK and France plus one other magazine that he shuffled towards the bottom of the stack.

Then he had to wait until most of the store's patrons left so he could bring his purchases to checkout without any untoward events happening. Just as the cashier began to ring up the magazines - a few groups of women walked in. So the cashier is checking his stuff through = Saturday review  3-50, Harpers -4 dollars, Cineaste, 7-75 - and then - the worst thing possible. The cashier holds up the magazine and shouts loud enough for everyone in the whole store to hear,

"Hey Seymour - how much for ORGASM Magazine!!!"

Well Allen's Mellish was mortified beyond belief. And me, I howled in laughter having gone to such lengths (nearly) myself. So thanks Palomine for bringing it all back to me today.
 

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Re: We Are All So Adult Now - but Remember When We Weren't
« Reply #113 on: October 06, 2009, 11:41:15 AM »
Mike,

As I'm also old enough to have started indulging my carnal interests well before the web, I distinctly recall being dragged by my mother to the Alexander's on Queens Blvd. many times for clothes. I even recall having eaten in the luncheonette in the store (inside and to the right of the **103** and down a couple of steps if you came in on the parking lot/Long Island Expressway side). I can't recall what I ate there, but it was probably grilled cheese (which I still enjoy). I'm also fairly certain that I spent some time discreetly oogling women there too, though any such images that I attempt to dredge from the recesses of my memory in that regard feel imagined rather than actually recalled... after all, more than 30 years have passed since then. ;)

It's been at least 20 years since I last saw Woody Allen's "Bananas" so I'm a bit foggy on the furtive newstand scene, but it doesn't surprise me at all as I imagine it to be a fairly common thing for men of a certain age. ;) Of course, Woody would exploit and exaggerate it for maximum comedic effect.

Thanks for the memories (and this thread)! :D

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Re: We Are All So Adult Now - but Remember When We Weren't
« Reply #114 on: October 06, 2009, 07:31:05 PM »
I remember downloading nude pics of Wendy Whoppers and Celeste in computer class the year the internet came to our highschool like 92 or 93 on 5.25''? floppy discs and takin em home!!!


Teacher was kinda hot in there too now that i remember...... ::)

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Re: We Are All So Adult Now - but Remember When We Weren't
« Reply #115 on: November 08, 2009, 11:21:55 AM »
It may sound crazy, but in the old days a fella had to be 18 to get his hands on prurient materials — either that or have an easily bribable older brother. Or a friend with such a brother. Or a dad with an obvious stash.
Or you found some.  I remember finding a porn mag on a bit of waste ground and taking it home and drying out all the pages so I could read it.
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Re: We Are All So Adult Now - but Remember When We Weren't
« Reply #116 on: January 06, 2010, 08:34:26 AM »
I don't remember any of these situations. When I worked at a gas station (attendant) as a 14 yr old I could read ANY magazine we sold.... I abused that right to its fullest
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Re: We Are All So Adult Now - but Remember When We Weren't
« Reply #117 on: January 08, 2010, 12:10:16 AM »
I don't remember any of these situations. When I worked at a gas station (attendant) as a 14 yr old I could read ANY magazine we sold.... I abused that right to its fullest

I don't know what's more mind-blowing...imagining you reading porn at 14, or imagining you at 14...

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Re: We Are All So Adult Now - but Remember When We Weren't
« Reply #118 on: May 14, 2010, 11:39:41 AM »
In olden days a glimpse of stocking was looked on as something shocking...  :o ::)
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Re: We Are All So Adult Now - but Remember When We Weren't
« Reply #119 on: May 27, 2010, 09:00:15 AM »
I don't know what's more mind-blowing...imagining you reading porn at 14, or imagining you at 14...

Q-"Does that constitute ex post facto jailbaiting?"-BE :o

well as a 14 yr old I was probably still taller than you :P
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