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Palomine

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Yes, I know that QTVR has been around for years (way pre OSX) and that it's surely been surpassed by other things
...I was just mentioning that VR output is supported from within Canon's freebie Photostitch utility, that's all. As
mentioned, I'm just dabbling here... if it were part of my job or something I'm sure I'd enjoy it all much less than
I do.

PS: BTW what exactly makes your Linux so "busty"? Surely there's not an OS flavor tailored specifically to
folks with predelictions such as ours, is there?

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JizzTits

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oh, i certainly understand not wanting to "star over" with
lenses. hmm, i wonder if there was an adapter so that you
can used the older manual focus Canon lenses.

and yeah, i thought about doing it in sections... but PS
doesn't seem to allow you to do that as the merged images
of the sections won't have the exact same dimensions...
and PS seems to only allow you to stitch images if they're
the same dimensions and orientations.

and hmm... calling Canon tech support... i didn't think you
could call them to ask how to shoot a specific way... i
would think it's only for technical problems about the cam.

and your PS supports creation of QTVR files? if that's the
case... then i really think that i'm missing something on
my version... my PS only saves in static image files.

i remember searching online for different ways to shoot
panoramics. and one site has this 360 degree lens, and what
you do is point it straight up, and shoot. and the whole
360 degree view is saved onto that single image file.
and the software undistorts the image and saves it as a
QTVR file. it was really cool, and it's great because you
don't have to shoot in sections. especially great when
there are people or moving objects and they'll all appear
in a single shot. it was pretty damned pricey though...

and yeah Pal, it'd be awesome to see you do this on your film
cameras. i'm really wondering though... how would you
adjust for distortion in the dark room?
it sounds VERY difficult to do...

 

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Palomine

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OK, I just uploaded yesteday's shot since 24hrs have passed since my last one.

I did a little research and there were two different adapters that could possibly allow the use of old (non-AF)
lenses on Canon's current digital SLRs. However, I haven't run across any firsthand info about folks who've done
this sucessfully.... of course you'd have to manually focus, but I'm not sure if the camera's through the lens
metering would work properly at all... the adapters are very rare (one was never a commercial product, but
released only to a few pro photographers right when Canon started making digicams) and I'm not likely to try it
myself. It's a shame though since a brand-new 500mm lens is no better optically than a good 20 year old 500mm
lens.

For film VFX, lens distortion correction is routine, always handled digitally of course. As distortion can impact
live action compositing, rotoscoping, motion tracking, the addition of CG etc... it's necessary to make sure that ALL
the elements have the same distortion on them so that the match properly. Sometimes this involves removing the
distortion entirely, combining the elements and then re-introducing the distortion again... a similar thing is
sometimes done with motion tracking data for match moves... the natural movement is eliminated, the shot modified
(comped) and then the natural movement is restored.

I don't know how much was ever done to resolve lens distortion issues pre-digital. Of course, a good photographer
knows that the 'best' part of a lens is near the middle, and would thus avoid placing important content near the edge
of the frame (unavoidable with panorama shots of course). I suspect that for some specific industrial/military
scientific uses, corrective lenses were used to manipulate images... i.e.: the corrective lens would compensate for
known distortions from another optical element in much the same way eyeglasses work.

I saw that  360 degree lens too... with software already set up to flatten the resulting image for that specific lens.

Looked interesting.


PS: I'm not suggesting that it's worth trying, but if PS insists that all input images have the same rez, you could
pad the small/orig ones so that they match the pre-stitched segments... going for the highest common denominator.
This workaround would probably work, but of course you'd have to manually adjust some of the blend locations
so as to avoid having the final image contain any of the padded color (padding is just pasting an image onto a larger
image (usually just a flat color) for the specific purpose of increasing it's overall rez). Again, this is probably
not worth the effort, but just thought I'd mention it.

PPS: re: your PS not having some features... I'm using Mac version 3.1, which came bundled with a Canon G5
purchased a few months ago. If you need a newer version, I think you can DL it from Canon if you are a registered
user. Good luck!

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Quote:


PS: BTW what exactly makes your Linux so "busty"? Surely there's not an OS flavor tailored specifically to
folks with predelictions such as ours, is there?  



Ahahaha I'm using a custom distribution with an assortment of busty wallpapers .. that's why I called Busty Linux
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Palomine

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Ah, I see... and here I was imagining some permutation of Linux (which I like, but don't use myself) that maybe had been modified to provide for the image/news searching/sorting needs of us kinds of fellows. BTW, let me take this opportunity to tell you how much I like your avatar... it's so easy to recognize your posts in a thread.

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(I just wanted to make you guys look even harder for the reply button...)

Palomine, surely you haven't forgotten about BeOS...
Here's another take on the hawk-
 
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Palomine

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Even cleaner... thanks! Yes, BeOS OUGHT to be our 'national' OS... and Bea Flora ought to be our figurehead.

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JizzTits

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yeah, there aren't any differences between the old and new
lenses... just more bells and whistles. too bad Canon
didn't have a bigger release for the adapters for the new
lenses.

and yeah, a corrective lens to compensate distortions
would be so sweet. but isn't that also the reason Canon
has so many damned lenses? i thought some of them are
supposed to display the image as accurate and undistorted
as possible.



and wow, it's an older version too? i'm using the one for
Windows that came with the Digital Rebel... i've never
registered on their site or anything though. but i guess i
can give it a shot and see if there's anything new.

   

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You know guys, I was in SF on the 4th. I should have thought to try and contact you...
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Ah, I see... and here I was imagining some permutation of Linux (which I like, but don't use myself) that maybe had been modified to provide for the image/news searching/sorting needs of us kinds of fellows.



Well it's kind of tailored toward multimedia and networking, as well as development -being a programmer myself- as of now usually it's as good as media reproducer as any windows system with a good codec pack, has a nice dvd ripping tool, a wine tailored to make usable photoshop 7 & paint shop pro under linux as well as forte agent and xnews.

Quote:

BTW, let me take this opportunity to tell you how much I like your avatar... it's so easy to recognize your posts in a thread.  



Thank you, your compliment is really appreciated. I modelled after a shield of arms, with a twist.
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Palomine, surely you haven't forgotten about BeOS...
Here's another take on the hawk-





Hahaha, you're right it should be our OS of choice too bad openBEos is still in it's infancy, and Zeta it's nowhere as stable as it should be
 
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BeOS? Casey James used it!
« Reply #41 on: July 17, 2004, 10:23:57 AM »
One is reminded of the picture of Casey James at her computer in 1997 with a boxed copy of BeOS on the shelf just over her head.

If I can find a copy of the picture, I will post it.


1739, same as Strider but he gets a custom tagline and I don't.  


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Re: Panoramic software and a sample
« Reply #42 on: July 17, 2004, 08:09:28 PM »
I use a Cannon Power Shot S30, a bit older but it
 allows for point-and-shoot all the way to
 completely manual. Yes, the camera is the
important thing. Yet, as Palomine has
 demonstrated, if you use basic photographic steps
 you can get decent images, regardless of the
 simplicity of the digital camera.


I used Ulead Cool 360 for the attached image. It
 came free along when I purchased Photo Explorer
 so I do not know the street cost. It is decent
 and allows for most of the adjustments mentioned
 here.

After playing with it I now feel that some photo
 editing software would still be needed to fix the
 few inevitable errors (from the low approximate
 focal length of 28 mm). Yes, overlap is the key.


Anyway - here is Kansas City, Missouri as taken
from the Liberty Memorial and looking north into
 downtown. Interstate 35 comes in from the left,
 Union Station is in the lower center, with the
 Hyatt Regency and Crown Center (Hallmark, Inc.)
 to the right. The base of the Memorial can be seen at
the extreme right.

As you can see, KC is built on several hills. It
 is not flat here. Especially with Keisha, Sasha,
 Buffie, and Kithara in town!  
 
 
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Palomine

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Re: Panoramic software and a sample
« Reply #43 on: July 17, 2004, 08:32:22 PM »
Nice work there N... the quality of the photos you and JT post humble my poor little camera... when I shoot at the highest setting 2MP/fine, they look ok on my monitor but by the time I compress them down enough for the forum, they're all crappy. Even at highrez, they're a little soft, which I presume has to do with the cut-rate optics.

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Nimrod

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How could this image have been lost? The integrity of the Forum is obviously suspect.
Good thing I have a long memory and nearly 10 year old media.

Not so much thread necromancy but more like thread reconstitution if I say so myself.
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