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Re: Beshine says: "hi everyone"
« Reply #21210 on: February 04, 2023, 12:15:29 AM »
I was feeling better when Boobsterboobs on reply #21193 sent a peace offering and I thought that perhaps the nastiness was leaving. Then I saw reply #21195 by Paddy and it wasn't nice at all but dripping with contempt and sarcasm for others. It's depressing.  :(
Solvegas, if I reproached someone for something and that person shows me that I was wrong and he is absolutely right... I automatically apologize and I admit that he was absolutely right;  as I have done with you  I do not hide or am ashamed to admit that the other person is right, you learn from mistakes;  If I were right, I have my doubts that someone here would apologize to me or admit that I was right.

You were apologetic toward me, and I appreciate that since it shows you are not close minded. None of us here is perfect and infallible and if we disagree, let's not go totally negative. As for Beshine, since she hasn't disclosed her size information, all we can do is try to guess her size and there is no need to be negative toward each other. Peace.  :)
It really isn't about who is right and who is wrong; the matter is totally subjective at this point, it is about how we respect the opinions of others.  Sol guesses 15k and gets instantly jumped on.  I didn't even venture a guess, but supported Sol's opinion, and suddenly I'm the bad guy.  I watch the stupid cancel culture cult operate in the same way, attack anyone who may even appear to disagree.  I don't play that game.

If I am wrong, I admit it.  People have seen that here and on other threads, a misassumption and the wrong conclusion, hence my hesitancy in making assumptions, but rather ask questions.  But I rarely speak about things without doing some homework and with Beshine, I have done a lot of homework.  There are so many pictures that lend support to the math that it has become difficult to deny, even when the weight is more than I would like to believe, but just yesterday, Beshine's OF video is entirely dedicated to boob weight.  Along with "gigantic boobie adventures" it is something she mentions frequently.  A couple weeks ago it was all about the challenges faced going down stairs.  It often seems that she is responding to what is posted in this thread.

Anyone not believing what Sol mentioned above about the change of shape of her boobs over a decade or so need only go back on this thread to the 2010-11 era and look at the pictures posted.  There are front on views that are profoundly different from what they look like today on OF, not only in shape, but fullness; the once large gap between her boobs is now filled in completely, pushing her sideboobs wider.  Beshine has posted a lot of pictures about chairs with arms, her boobs resting on and even extending beyond the arms.  Measure the outside width of a quality chair arms and you will find my 6½" radius real if not conservative.  She does mention the problem with some doorways.  Like I have said, her regular site is for 'outside Beshine,' but OF dives into the everyday life of Beshine, the pictures and videos often addressing things directly or indirectly that she faces 24/7.  And then there is the endearing "and I love it" after pointing out the way her boobs prevent her from doing something normally.

I have implored others to not take my word for it, do the math themselves, but I really don't see anyone putting forth the effort.  There are 'partial sphere calculators' online which removes the geometry challenge, leaving only finding pictures with objects of a known size next to a boob for making dimension approximations.  It isn't science, but it is as close as we get and beats the hell out of "I think."  Like I said, Beshine meant something when she said that she finally hit 80 and while I am not saying I am right, the math suggest I may well be.  BTW, I did the beachball mathematics back when she said that to see if 80 could have meant what others assumed it was (bust measurement) and found it way too much, like a foot too much.  Pretty sure I did the volume at that time and it would have been close to 40k, so although I did not reply, I was self-assured her followers were likely wrong.

Always take a logical approach and where logic fails to point to a proper conclusion, allow Occam's razor to be your guide.

Duk I want to try to be a little more constructive but also want you to do so. I also will say things in this text where I ask you to think about instead off decline everything. And please don’t forget English is your native language so you can express yourself a little easier then others on this board.

It looks like you are accusing me of wokeism or cancelculture. I can tell you I’m very against it and hate all these kind of things. I’m also unvaccinated, why? Because I do not simply believe everything being told by a government or other people. I do my own research and make my decisions based on what I find about it and I feel about it.

You also accusing me I don’t see difference regarding Beshine after 2011. That’s simply not true I have said from the beginning I entered this discussion I really think she added 2 or 3k in total after her 8 to 10k fill.

You also accused me saying beshine is a lair. That’s not true also, I do have lots of questions marks by her behavior after her 8 to 10k fill. Before that she was a complete different person. I have said many times she is a goddess and can be very proud of she has achieved and also she has planted the seeds for the expander generation girls who want to go huge. She will and can’t never been forgotten for this.

And now this and I want to ask you kindly to think about it very well. I think I will say this for a couple of more in this forum but I want it to keep it personal. It’s your way of communication which is very irritating in my opinion. You do simply defend everything which is against your way of thinking or the way you see her. I have said so many things based on a facts you simply decline, it looks like you simply don’t want to think about it seriously because it doesn’t fit in your narrative or dreamworld. That is how it’s feels from this side.

I have learned that practical things or telling more about truth then theoretical or visual things. This is about numerous tests we have done with filled balloons on many different sizes. You simply throw it away and do compare it with things which are not even close to what I have done or what beshine must feel. You do it with all things others say and don’t fit your narrative. It think it’s better to open the discussion and say something like “heee that’s interesting what did you feel and think about it, what sizes did you use and for what period. Why do you think there is a physical barrier” you really throw it all overboard, at least that is how it feels to me. I did have a few former friends diagnosed with narcism I get the same feeling by reading your texts.

I really want to come this battle to an end. And try to talk and discuss things on a level we all are open for different ways of thinking and be open for different opinions.

Sol…. Your 15k claim I asked you about was never ment to offend you. If you felt it that way sorry for it.

Duk… the text above is about you. Maybe it contains things which are being hard or you being angry about. But keep in mind “the Dutch” are known for their direct and hard style of communication. And so heee I’m Dutch. This message I really ment for coming together and end the battle and be more constructive.

So I have said my things about it…. The ball is in your hands now…..
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Re: Beshine says: "hi everyone"
« Reply #21211 on: February 04, 2023, 02:52:27 AM »
Sol guesses 15k and gets instantly jumped on.  I didn't even venture a guess, but supported Sol's opinion, and suddenly I'm the bad guy.  I watch the stupid cancel culture cult operate in the same way, attack anyone who may even appear to disagree.  I don't play that game.
I just said that I doubt she was 15k, it would be very apparent in size and there has been virtually no noiceable change in volume.  I understand that we are very excited about the sizes and see how they grow and based on that, hoaxes are created that are not true as happened with Chelsea Charms, many things that she never said or did went viral and then we are upset, it is the who has fanaticism and fantasize.

But I rarely speak about things without doing some homework and with Beshine, I have done a lot of homework.
Do you think I don't, and I'm speaking here just to contradict others?

Beshine has posted a lot of pictures about chairs with arms, her boobs resting on and even extending beyond the arms.  Measure the outside width of a quality chair arms and you will find my 6½" radius real if not conservative.
You are aware that her boobs are not spherical, right? And I remind you that I sent you a screenshot of it to see.
Have you ever heard someone famous say that when they take photos they have a more photogenic pose or side and they look better or more handsome? she does exactly that, they are not spherical but from a side view that she always poses they seem rounder and bigger (don't confuse me, they are big now and always have been) if you measure the diameter like this you are falsifying the data; You say it yourself, half an inch can be hundreds of cc added and added to the impression of measuring a photograph, the margin of error is even larger.

Anyone not believing what Sol mentioned above about the change of shape of her boobs over a decade or so need only go back on this thread to the 2010-11 era and look at the pictures posted.
You are getting confused! between 2010 and 2011 if changes were appreciated that is more than evident, it went from 6k to 8k and in 2011 to 10k but after that there is nothing else, just the passage of time of a person; And I emphasize, she is not immortal and her skin, the implant and her entire body undergoes changes like all of us.

There are front on views that are profoundly different from what they look like today on OF, not only in shape, but fullness; the once large gap between her boobs is now filled in completely, pushing her sideboobs wider.
There you are wrong! That depends on how she puts her arms and squeezes her tits between them and I show you in the following image; They are all from the same year and by coincidence that space between her tits that you mention fills up more and more... they are together and tighter and then further apart; It is not an isolated case, I have several others in the same position from different years (2018, 2021) that obviously I cannot publish.

Curious, in the 3 photos if you look at her right breast there is a small slight ripple that always appears, in 2011, 2018 and 2021, how is it possible? if you add 5000cc that little ripple should supposedly disappear

If you actually ever were a member of her sites, you would understand this absurd prosthetic chart has nothing to do with her, her total breast shape, her bra size (totally hypothetical), nor any suggested volumes, which is why you started whining about weeks ago when Sol suggested 15k.  Contribute politely, don't demean others, opinions differ but that does not mean you are right; otherwise, you are a troll.
You'll be surprised what I can get from her.
Paddy was trying to say that 15k is quite a large size and visually it would be very noticeable and that is not the case. A change in size was noticed from 8k to 10k but from 10k to 15k practically nothing, only stability and settlement of the skin and implant and the passing of the years

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Re: Beshine says: "hi everyone"
« Reply #21212 on: February 04, 2023, 06:07:18 AM »
The vissible ripple on her right breast were discused severall times.
What could be possible (it is not prooven) that there might be some different in shape of the right implant. Maybe during manufacturing there is a slightly difference in thickness of the implant. So by stretching the sruface of the implant this area stretches not so much.

What fascinates me more are those size of these scars  :o,so they can put in really huge bags.
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Re: Beshine says: "hi everyone"
« Reply #21213 on: February 04, 2023, 08:38:20 AM »
I hope we can ALL agree on this. Since 2011, when Beshine has refused to tell us her actual size, ALL OF US have been merely guessing and speculating about her size. We know she has NOT doubled in size but that doesn't mean that her volume has not significantly increased. Remember, in a spherical object, to double the size of anything, you must increase the volume by eight times. So, if Beshine doubled the size of her breasts from 10K, her volume would be 80K, more or less. That would be a total of 160 Kilos or 352 pounds which would make her wheelchair bound. So, her size has not increased profoundly but the volume has and by my estimation, it is 15K or about 50%. I could be wrong, and I truly wish Beshine would end this speculation and then we could all go back to just admiring her in a peaceful manner.   :)

Re: Beshine says: "hi everyone"
« Reply #21214 on: February 04, 2023, 09:09:41 AM »
The vissible ripple on her right breast were discused severall times.
What could be possible (it is not prooven) that there might be some different in shape of the right implant. Maybe during manufacturing there is a slightly difference in thickness of the implant. So by stretching the sruface of the implant this area stretches not so much.

What fascinates me more are those size of these scars  :o,so they can put in really huge bags.
In my humble opinion, I think the indentation has more to do with the implant slipping out of place compared to the strap of the internal bra; early on before the implants was sufficiently filled, the strap moved from securing the base to being slightly over a rear portion of that implant, pressing down and creating the groove.  I think the entire thing may have moved slightly lateral, which explains why we see the elevated medial cord on the upper right breast leading to the point of fixation.

I agree, though it was the 3rd surgery, I guess that to be a 5" scar, perhaps 2" larger than most I have seen from a 3000cc implant.  And the thing to consider here is her expanders were flat and empty when inserted, not filled to 3000cc, so it is like, really, you still needed a incision that large?  Yeah, that must have been a huge implant, even empty.

Re: Beshine says: "hi everyone"
« Reply #21215 on: February 04, 2023, 09:41:40 AM »
I hope we can ALL agree on this. Since 2011, when Beshine has refused to tell us her actual size, ALL OF US have been merely guessing and speculating about her size. We know she has NOT doubled in size but that doesn't mean that her volume has not significantly increased. Remember, in a spherical object, to double the size of anything, you must increase the volume by eight times. So, if Beshine doubled the size of her breasts from 10K, her volume would be 80K, more or less. That would be a total of 160 Kilos or 352 pounds which would make her wheelchair bound. So, her size has not increased profoundly but the volume has and by my estimation, it is 15K or about 50%. I could be wrong, and I truly wish Beshine would end this speculation and then we could all go back to just admiring her in a peaceful manner.   :)
One of the points that seem to always be ignored; the mathematics.  Perhaps that is why those denying Beshine has filled to any real degree since 2011 do not want to engage on the only objective, fact driven argument; their argument is always subjective and they refuse to address the mathematics.  Any shape object requires increasing the volume 8x to double in size.  While a 10% difference in size would be very difficult to notice, especially at a glance, the profound difference in the shape of Beshine's breasts from 2011 is very noticeable.  So what is it, a 25% difference?  Like I have recently said, Beshine had perhaps a 23-24" width in 2011, minus a good 5" gap between her breasts, so her total was more in the 18" range when held together by a bra.  Now, without a bra, her breasts are touching in the center and appear to extend slightly beyond the arms of chairs from what can be gleaned from numerous OF photos, meaning she is very likely at least 26" wide or each breast 13".  It is hard for any intelligent person to deny the photographic evidence of her continued expansion; just the simple observational example I just cited would represent almost a 50% increase in width, which I would expect to be the largest dimension of increase.

 Ever since I have ventured guesses, it has always been after incorporating a degree of mathematics, but it still replies on dimension estimates.  You are usually guessing in the 25% increased size, while I have usually guessed in the 33% area.  Only Beshine knows the truth.

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Re: Beshine says: "hi everyone"
« Reply #21216 on: February 04, 2023, 12:44:44 PM »
I hope we can ALL agree on this. Since 2011, when Beshine has refused to tell us her actual size, ALL OF US have been merely guessing and speculating about her size. We know she has NOT doubled in size but that doesn't mean that her volume has not significantly increased. Remember, in a spherical object, to double the size of anything, you must increase the volume by eight times. So, if Beshine doubled the size of her breasts from 10K, her volume would be 80K, more or less. That would be a total of 160 Kilos or 352 pounds which would make her wheelchair bound. So, her size has not increased profoundly but the volume has and by my estimation, it is 15K or about 50%. I could be wrong, and I truly wish Beshine would end this speculation and then we could all go back to just admiring her in a peaceful manner.   :)
One of the points that seem to always be ignored; the mathematics.  Perhaps that is why those denying Beshine has filled to any real degree since 2011 do not want to engage on the only objective, fact driven argument; their argument is always subjective and they refuse to address the mathematics.  Any shape object requires increasing the volume 8x to double in size.  While a 10% difference in size would be very difficult to notice, especially at a glance, the profound difference in the shape of Beshine's breasts from 2011 is very noticeable.  So what is it, a 25% difference?  Like I have recently said, Beshine had perhaps a 23-24" width in 2011, minus a good 5" gap between her breasts, so her total was more in the 18" range when held together by a bra.  Now, without a bra, her breasts are touching in the center and appear to extend slightly beyond the arms of chairs from what can be gleaned from numerous OF photos, meaning she is very likely at least 26" wide or each breast 13".  It is hard for any intelligent person to deny the photographic evidence of her continued expansion; just the simple observational example I just cited would represent almost a 50% increase in width, which I would expect to be the largest dimension of increase.

 Ever since I have ventured guesses, it has always been after incorporating a degree of mathematics, but it still replies on dimension estimates.  You are usually guessing in the 25% increased size, while I have usually guessed in the 33% area.  Only Beshine knows the truth.

Wooow not a single word about my last post. I tried to stickout a hand to leave things behind. Looks like it isn’t what it’s all about.

Re: Beshine says: "hi everyone"
« Reply #21217 on: February 04, 2023, 01:22:10 PM »
When y'all come here, respect the opinions of others, contribute in a positive manner, and engage in polite conversations, actually prove you are above troll mentality, you may be worth conversation, but so long as you post the garbage like you did the past 12 days, attacking me, Sol, & Miggie just because, unlike you, we support Beshine and tend to believe what she has said, you are unworthy in my opinion.  You have spent the last 3 years attacking members here rather than post anything positive or supportive.  If you actually believe you extended a hand, you have a long way to go.  Every time someone posts anything indicative of further expansions after 2011, here you are, bad mouthing them; it's the only time you show up.  Like Sol said, Beshine has explained why she would not make when fills had happened or how much, if you read the thread, you would know this; just because she didn't call you on the phone and let you know, doesn't mean nothing happened.  The degree in which you seem to have trouble understanding simple things is troubling, but I am not the one who is confused.  Point out the times & amounts of fills prior to Feb 2011.  Having trouble?  Yet you accept they happened without evidence?  You obviously don't know anything beyond a 2011 volume, nothing before, nothing after; you even mistake the picture you offer, she places her arms beneath her back boob so her boobs stand up more rather than fall to the sides.  And the indentation is not evidence she has not filled; look back at 6k and 8k pictures, it was there then.  I have already hypothesized my rationale for it being there.  How many times have I said her boobs are not spherical and said you need to calculate otherwise, best with a partial sphere calculator?  Yet here you are trying to lecture me that they are not spherical?  To that end, her boobs are far more spherical today than they were in 2011, but you probably want to deny that also, right?  Pretty sure I know where your hand has been.

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Re: Beshine says: "hi everyone"
« Reply #21218 on: February 04, 2023, 02:02:22 PM »
When y'all come here, respect the opinions of others, contribute in a positive manner, and engage in polite conversations, actually prove you are above troll mentality, you may be worth conversation, but so long as you post the garbage like you did the past 12 days, attacking me, Sol, & Miggie just because, unlike you, we support Beshine and tend to believe what she has said, you are unworthy in my opinion.  You have spent the last 3 years attacking members here rather than post anything positive or supportive.  If you actually believe you extended a hand, you have a long way to go.  Every time someone posts anything indicative of further expansions after 2011, here you are, bad mouthing them; it's the only time you show up.  Like Sol said, Beshine has explained why she would not make when fills had happened or how much, if you read the thread, you would know this; just because she didn't call you on the phone and let you know, doesn't mean nothing happened.  The degree in which you seem to have trouble understanding simple things is troubling, but I am not the one who is confused.  Point out the times & amounts of fills prior to Feb 2011.  Having trouble?  Yet you accept they happened without evidence?  You obviously don't know anything beyond a 2011 volume, nothing before, nothing after; you even mistake the picture you offer, she places her arms beneath her back boob so her boobs stand up more rather than fall to the sides.  And the indentation is not evidence she has not filled; look back at 6k and 8k pictures, it was there then.  I have already hypothesized my rationale for it being there.  How many times have I said her boobs are not spherical and said you need to calculate otherwise, best with a partial sphere calculator?  Yet here you are trying to lecture me that they are not spherical?  To that end, her boobs are far more spherical today than they were in 2011, but you probably want to deny that also, right?  Pretty sure I know where your hand has been.

Who are you talking to?? Me and boosterboobs are not the same person? You mix things up….

But fine do what you think is good. I didn’t troll anyone beside you a little. That part I explaned in my former message. If you like to continue that way it’s up to you. I send a seriously message to end it you don’t accept it. Fine it is saying something over your intensions.

Re: Beshine says: "hi everyone"
« Reply #21219 on: February 04, 2023, 02:15:48 PM »
Bombayduk is a perfect example of https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

Re: Beshine says: "hi everyone"
« Reply #21220 on: February 04, 2023, 02:41:58 PM »
Like I said, polite conversation, positive input. Some just don't know how to do anything beyond ad hominem because they have nothing intelligent to say.  The posts speak for themselves.

Re: Beshine says: "hi everyone"
« Reply #21221 on: February 04, 2023, 03:48:20 PM »
The vissible ripple on her right breast were discused severall times.
What could be possible (it is not prooven) that there might be some different in shape of the right implant. Maybe during manufacturing there is a slightly difference in thickness of the implant. So by stretching the sruface of the implant this area stretches not so much.

What fascinates me more are those size of these scars  :o,so they can put in really huge bags.
That rippling 100% has all the characteristics to be it. and possibly did some treatment to improve because before it was more visible

I hope we can ALL agree on this. Since 2011, when Beshine has refused to tell us her actual size, ALL OF US have been merely guessing and speculating about her size. We know she has NOT doubled in size but that doesn't mean that her volume has not significantly increased. Remember, in a spherical object, to double the size of anything, you must increase the volume by eight times. So, if Beshine doubled the size of her breasts from 10K, her volume would be 80K, more or less. That would be a total of 160 Kilos or 352 pounds which would make her wheelchair bound. So, her size has not increased profoundly but the volume has and by my estimation, it is 15K or about 50%. I could be wrong, and I truly wish Beshine would end this speculation and then we could all go back to just admiring her in a peaceful manner.   :)
Yes, Solvegas, I have never said that it is double what it is now, if it had been so it would be very evident

One of the points that seem to always be ignored; the mathematics.  Perhaps that is why those denying Beshine has filled to any real degree since 2011 do not want to engage on the only objective, fact driven argument; their argument is always subjective and they refuse to address the mathematics.  Any shape object requires increasing the volume 8x to double in size.
Who says it has double? that term is more than clear; It would be very obvious if it had double.
While a 10% difference in size would be very difficult to notice, especially at a glance, the profound difference in the shape of Beshine's breasts from 2011 is very noticeable.

Like I have recently said, Beshine had perhaps a 23-24" width in 2011, minus a good 5" gap between her breasts, so her total was more in the 18" range when held together by a bra.  Now, without a bra, her breasts are touching in the center and appear to extend slightly beyond the arms of chairs from what can be gleaned from numerous OF photos, meaning she is very likely at least 26" wide or each breast 13".  It is hard for any intelligent person to deny the photographic evidence of her continued expansion; just the simple observational example I just cited would represent almost a 50% increase in width, which I would expect to be the largest dimension of increase.
It is difficult to demonstrate with 2 photographs in a similar position a difference in size the variable could be large, but you continue taking measurements and percentages directly from a photograph/video, without knowing what lens, distance or type of camera and to that add that their breasts , and I have repeated it to you several times and I have shown it to you, they are not round/spherical, they are oval, they are totally wrong measurements and they are very distorted.
Show it with photos what you say, post a photo to know how you measure it, from where you measure and to where; Show me photographically that increase.
I read a lot of theory but I don't see proof of how it's done and what photos of bases.

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Re: Beshine says: "hi everyone"
« Reply #21222 on: February 04, 2023, 05:06:31 PM »
The vissible ripple on her right breast were discused severall times.
What could be possible (it is not prooven) that there might be some different in shape of the right implant. Maybe during manufacturing there is a slightly difference in thickness of the implant. So by stretching the sruface of the implant this area stretches not so much.

What fascinates me more are those size of these scars  :o,so they can put in really huge bags.
That rippling 100% has all the characteristics to be it. and possibly did some treatment to improve because before it was more visible

I hope we can ALL agree on this. Since 2011, when Beshine has refused to tell us her actual size, ALL OF US have been merely guessing and speculating about her size. We know she has NOT doubled in size but that doesn't mean that her volume has not significantly increased. Remember, in a spherical object, to double the size of anything, you must increase the volume by eight times. So, if Beshine doubled the size of her breasts from 10K, her volume would be 80K, more or less. That would be a total of 160 Kilos or 352 pounds which would make her wheelchair bound. So, her size has not increased profoundly but the volume has and by my estimation, it is 15K or about 50%. I could be wrong, and I truly wish Beshine would end this speculation and then we could all go back to just admiring her in a peaceful manner.   :)
Yes, Solvegas, I have never said that it is double what it is now, if it had been so it would be very evident

One of the points that seem to always be ignored; the mathematics.  Perhaps that is why those denying Beshine has filled to any real degree since 2011 do not want to engage on the only objective, fact driven argument; their argument is always subjective and they refuse to address the mathematics.  Any shape object requires increasing the volume 8x to double in size.
Who says it has double? that term is more than clear; It would be very obvious if it had double.
While a 10% difference in size would be very difficult to notice, especially at a glance, the profound difference in the shape of Beshine's breasts from 2011 is very noticeable.

Like I have recently said, Beshine had perhaps a 23-24" width in 2011, minus a good 5" gap between her breasts, so her total was more in the 18" range when held together by a bra.  Now, without a bra, her breasts are touching in the center and appear to extend slightly beyond the arms of chairs from what can be gleaned from numerous OF photos, meaning she is very likely at least 26" wide or each breast 13".  It is hard for any intelligent person to deny the photographic evidence of her continued expansion; just the simple observational example I just cited would represent almost a 50% increase in width, which I would expect to be the largest dimension of increase.
It is difficult to demonstrate with 2 photographs in a similar position a difference in size the variable could be large, but you continue taking measurements and percentages directly from a photograph/video, without knowing what lens, distance or type of camera and to that add that their breasts , and I have repeated it to you several times and I have shown it to you, they are not round/spherical, they are oval, they are totally wrong measurements and they are very distorted.
Show it with photos what you say, post a photo to know how you measure it, from where you measure and to where; Show me photographically that increase.
I read a lot of theory but I don't see proof of how it's done and what photos of bases.

It looks like we have to ask Duk what we can say or not. Only he has al truth in his pocket. He is the spokesman of beshine. If anybody does try to come together only he can grand that part. He does aprove what others might say or think

Re: Beshine says: "hi everyone"
« Reply #21223 on: February 04, 2023, 06:42:41 PM »
When y'all come here, respect the opinions of others, contribute in a positive manner, and engage in polite conversations, actually prove you are above troll mentality, you may be worth conversation, but so long as you post the garbage like you did the past 12 days, attacking me, Sol, & Miggie just because, unlike you, we support Beshine.
I think you are confusing "disagreeing with someone" and "being attacked"
People who disagree with certain things that are said here without evidence or based on assumptions do not mean that they are against Beshine or we do not support it; you get confused.
we support Beshine and tend to believe what she has said, you are unworthy in my opinion.

What did he really say? nothing!
It only refers to his state at that moment, it is you who reads between the lines and interprets it in your own way that you believe; any comment he makes you twist to show that he has had another increase.
You have spent the last 3 years attacking members here rather than post anything positive or supportive.  If you actually believe you extended a hand, you have a long way to go.  Every time someone posts anything indicative of further expansions after 2011, here you are, bad mouthing them; it's the only time you show up.

I can say what I want without offending anyone; in the same way that you do not stop repeating the same thing over and over again, over and over again ..... and I have not complained.
"Support and nothing positive" if he does not share your ideas, that is not giving support and not being positive, I am unworthy and I am the devil personified.
just because she didn't call you on the phone and let you know, doesn't mean nothing happened.  The degree in which you seem to have trouble understanding simple things is troubling, but I am not the one who is confused.  Point out the times & amounts of fills prior to Feb 2011.  Having trouble?  Yet you accept they happened without evidence?  You obviously don't know anything beyond a 2011 volume, nothing before, nothing after;

Do you realize that this game of not revealing ccs has been doing it since its inception? That game makes this thread active and I know that she follows it and reads it and proof of this is that certain things that are said here are reflected in comments at the OF photo caption or its web page that you later expose here as evident proof of increase; what a coincidence!!! He doesn't really need to reveal anything, just the curiosity of the fans is enough.
She doesn't have to call me to announce a raise; I accept those fillers because I confirm it and it is written in this thread and the proof is the photos after that filler where there is a difference in size.
Show me a photographic proof where she is bigger than 2011.
Be careful because 10k to 12k can be quite noticeable but comparing 10k to 15k is a considerable increase not to notice.
you even mistake the picture you offer, she places her arms beneath her back boob so her boobs stand up more rather than fall to the sides.  And the indentation is not evidence she has not filled; look back at 6k and 8k pictures, it was there then.  I have already hypothesized my rationale for it being there.  How many times have I said her boobs are not spherical and said you need to calculate otherwise, best with a partial sphere calculator?  Yet here you are trying to lecture me that they are not spherical?  To that end, her boobs are far more spherical today than they were in 2011, but you probably want to deny that also, right?  Pretty sure I know where your hand has been.

I may have misunderstood you when reading your post, but you must understand that we don't all speak English here and to be able to express something and to understand each other we have to translate from our native language to English and from English to our native language and in that process aspects are lost. or the semantics are not adequate and there is a misunderstanding.
An image would help in these cases.

Re: Beshine says: "hi everyone"
« Reply #21224 on: February 04, 2023, 08:31:45 PM »
You guys can answer your own questions if you just followed advice, did your homework, and looked at this thread from the beginning or at any point in time under question.  You make the same false claims when the evidence is right in front of you, so stop with the show me this BS and that BS and look for yourself.  Babysitting is not my job.