[onionwriter]

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We do come close from time to time; recall what happened to the Japanese in WW II. We lost our nerve to go all the way to bumping them off though -- we saved the black prisoners in the Tuskeegee Experiment for that

You are right.

[mofoapoo]

I don't know, these days I think people are more scared of Muslims than they are of blacks.

Imagine, though, the backlash that would've been created if the rumors of Obama's religion were that he was a secret Jew.

I would've found it even more funny if those were the rumors, but the Jewish community would be up in arms.  Maybe, though, because the Muslim community in the US is less than 1%, but my point is valid.

[pedonbio]

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onionwriter said:

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TheZookie007 said:
We do come close from time to time; recall what happened to the Japanese in WW II. We lost our nerve to go all the way to bumping them off though -- we saved the black prisoners in the Tuskeegee Experiment for that

You are right.

I want to quibble.

First, ugly and disgusting as American racism has been, the internment program was ultimately answerable to FDR and, I know it may come as a shock, but even in government there are some things gentlemen do not do, and genocide is one of those things.

Also, there were two groups who opposed the internment, the ACLU and the American Friends Service Committee. They kept in touch with the internees to make certain that genocide didn't happen.

Finally, there was one newspaper editor who did the best thing possible. Walt Woodward owned the Bainbridge Island Beacon, a small weekly newspaper. (In case you liked  Snow Falling on Cedars, the locale of the story was really Bainbridge Island, but the names were all changed.)

Woodward editorialized against the internment, worked to help Japanese Americans arrange to keep their property, and, most importantly, after they were interned he had a stringer in each camp who reported the details of births, deaths, and sports scores, so that the internees remained a part of the community.

The paper was bought out a few years ago; now it's run out of San Jose, CA.

[Hiram]

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mofoapoo said:
I don't know, these days I think people are more scared of Muslims than they are of blacks.

Allahu Akbar.

Nope, I'm still more scared of black people.

[pedonbio]

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I don't know, these days I think people are more scared of Muslims than they are of blacks.

Allahu Akbar.

Nope, I'm still more scared of black people.

I subscribe to the Michael Moore Racial Quandry: Everybody who ever dumped me, fired me, cheated me in a deal, or divorced me was white.

White people hate me.

[TheZookie007]

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pedonbio:
I subscribe to the Michael Moore Racial Quandry: Everybody who ever dumped me, fired me, cheated me in a deal, or divorced me was white.

White people hate me.

That cracked me up, man

[TheZookie007]

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pedonbio:
Finally, there was one newspaper editor who did the best thing possible. Walt Woodward owned the Bainbridge Island Beacon, a small weekly newspaper. (In case you liked  Snow Falling on Cedars, the locale of the story was really Bainbridge Island, but the names were all changed.)

Woodward editorialized against the internment, worked to help Japanese Americans arrange to keep their property, and, most importantly, after they were interned he had a stringer in each camp who reported the details of births, deaths, and sports scores, so that the internees remained a part of the community.

The paper was bought out a few years ago; now it's run out of San Jose, CA.

That is a story that should become better known. Thank you for sharing it with us.

[TheZookie007]

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Essence.com Roland S. Martin: "Major Clinton Backer, HUGE Obama Hater, supporting McCain"

Later this morning the campaign of Sen. John McCain will hold a news conference trumpeting the endorsement of Lynn Forester de Rothschild, a major fundraiser for Sen. Hillary Clinton and a member of the Democratic platform committee.

Forester, a CEO of her own company in New York who married a British billionaire, has been blasting Obama for quite some time, calling him arrogant, elitist and out-of-touch with the common man and woman.

Wow, someone named de Rothschild trying to call Obama an elitist.

Folks, I have interview (sic) Lynn and her rationale for backing McCain is nonsensical. What she should do is just be honest: she HATES Obama and will never support this man.

She continues to be mad, angry and bitter at the fact that her candidate lost. Forrester will claim that Obama didn't attack the sexism against Clinton during the primary, and that McCain's experience is what's most important. Maybe Forrester is really ticked off because she had her sights set on being ambassador to England, and she knows all too well that she can give that pipe dream up if Obama wins.

When I interviewed her for my CNN radio show, I asked her her views on abortion, the war, the Bush tax cuts and a possible conservative majority on the Supreme Court. On EVERY issue, she stands in stark contrast to McCain.

Not only that, how in the hell can you sit on the Democratic Platform Committee, and then support someone who stands in absolute contrast to that platform?

She should be ashamed of herself for the hateful and spiteful words she has tossed out about Obama. It's clear that she is a hater of this man.

Lynn, suck it up. Your candidate got beat by Obama. He won. She lost. And you just need to get over it.

Lastly, if McCain does win and puts into place that are counter to everything Forrester claims is important to her as a woman and as a Democrat, she should shut the hell up for at least four years because she would have played a role in making it a reality.

[pedonbio]

Gawd.

A  Rothschild accusing somebody of being elitist?

Proof positive that American politics has gone totally mad!

[notty]

Whenever I think of Obama, I'm filled with loathing and disgust, yet I cannot sympathize with this woman.  She's the political equivalent of cutting off the nose to spite the face.  Bad play.

[Real]

yeah i think this election has set the new record for multi millionaires (now even billionaires) calling a self made man "elitist".

but yet again when youre running republican in the year 2008 what are you going to do?  talk about reality?...

[TheZookie007]

Loathing? Disgust? Those are strong words. I might not like his policies and I don't want him to win this election, but even I would not use such words against McCain. What is your problem with Sen. Obama?

[notty]

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Loathing? Disgust? Those are strong words. I might not like his policies and I don't want him to win this election, but even I would not use such words against McCain. What is your problem with Sen. Obama?

Obama calls himself a blank screen, but that's not quite right.  He's more like a screen full of silly platitudes, and people are so worn down by eight years of Dubya that they're lapping it up like ice cream.  It's become a game of pick-your-platitude!  Something for everyone!

Except me, I guess.  I see a congressman who wants to be President. *yawn* Same old shit, fancy new packaging.  I guess I have no problem with the old shit, it is what it is, but the packaging hurts my eyeballs.  Also, I find the cult of personality surrounding Obama rather creepy.  I wish I could go a whole day without encountering his more fervent followers either in person, in print, or on TV.  That would be nice.  I dream the dream.

[onionwriter]

I agree with everything you say. But Palin scares me -- horrifies me. I am decided.

[Real]

meh, point is its time for a democrat in the white house.  i dont really see that he speaks in generalities any more than any presidential candidate in the recent past or present.

what's creepy is mccain's vp's resume next to his platform for the first 90% of his campaign.  what's creepy is bringing up your pow experience when youre asked why you dont konw how many houses you have.  what's especially creepy is insinuating that teaching kindergarders about inappropriate touching is "sex ed" on a tv commercial.  what's creepy is that after 8 years of george bush this election is a dead heat.  at least in my opinion.

i actually usually find the criticisms of obama more vague and superficial than people accuse him of being as a politician.  to go ahead and discount someone because of their oratory is ignorant from iether side.  he reperesents your basic liberal democrat, relative fiscal responsibility and social progression.  the way that many inudstrialized nations get along in peace and prosperity....