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« Reply #5595 on: January 23, 2017, 01:57:35 AM »
So finally Trumpel presents his alternative facts (we remember altright new speech for lies) that he doesn't want to show his tax papers.
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« Reply #5596 on: January 23, 2017, 02:06:09 AM »
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« Reply #5597 on: January 23, 2017, 09:06:11 AM »
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This was called appeasement. And it didn't work
Although, in the Middle East I think you'd agree we should have done less.  It could be argued that if Saddam was still there many French people would still be alive today.

I think I'm right in saying after WWII the Japanese constitution banned their military from operating overseas.  And we never saw German military outside Deutschland either have we.

We have seen the German army after WW II here:

fighting:
Afghanistan
Kosovo (former Jugoslawia)
Mali

Other defence and supporting operations:
Syria and Iraque (present from Turkey)
Iraque
Mediterrian Sea
Somalia
Sudan
West-Sahara

I don't say this actions where all good. Especially Iraque, Afghanistan and Syria I ask what they are doing there.
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« Reply #5598 on: January 23, 2017, 09:10:59 AM »
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Seems not correct to me. I can tell you that the complete GERMAN altright movement says: Angela Merkel is not their cancellor. Either the altright is wrong or your graphic. Solve it!

And wasn't Trumpel one of the most famous ones who said Obama isn't his president because he questioned his US citizenship and with him together the complete altright movement? I think Trumpel and his people need to accept that people say this about him. But they are hurting his ego, and this is so ... unfair.
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« Reply #5599 on: January 23, 2017, 08:44:45 PM »
Our Word For The Day:

claque  [klak]

noun

1. a group of persons hired to applaud an act or performer.

2. a group of sycophants.

Example:

President Trump uses a claque at his speeches to make it look like the audience agrees with him.

The front rows at his speech at the CIA? Supporters and staffers. The real CIA people were in the back. Also note that the speech was on a weekend, so most CIA employees would have had to make a special trip to the office if they wanted to be there......

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/01/23/this-is-how-donald-trump-engineers-applause/?utm_term=.0b1d8b31daea

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« Reply #5600 on: January 24, 2017, 07:26:15 AM »
Our Word For The Day:

claque  [klak]

noun

1. a group of persons hired to applaud an act or performer.

2. a group of sycophants.

Example:

President Trump uses a claque at his speeches to make it look like the audience agrees with him.

The front rows at his speech at the CIA? Supporters and staffers. The real CIA people were in the back. Also note that the speech was on a weekend, so most CIA employees would have had to make a special trip to the office if they wanted to be there......

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/01/23/this-is-how-donald-trump-engineers-applause/?utm_term=.0b1d8b31daea

You remember what picture I presented earlier? The majority of these people were claque. It's clear what happens.

They all voted for former GDR president Erich Honecker! Elected by 99.86% - 99.94% of the valid ballots. And 98.58 - 99.74% of all GDR citizens voted. Unbelievable how he could win the elections even he got chased away in 1990 fleeing to Moskow and later to Chile.



So much to the validity of any picture like yours. They proof nothing.

In his inauguration he said something of "handing it back to the people". Sounds good if you have a republic where the people have the say. Here is a list of them:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Republic

Impressive isn't it?
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« Reply #5601 on: January 24, 2017, 09:58:50 AM »
We have seen the German army after WW II here:

Afghanistan

I stand corrected.

Do you think Germany's involvement in Afghanistan bearing on the Christmas market attack?
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« Reply #5602 on: January 24, 2017, 10:53:05 AM »
We have seen the German army after WW II here:

Afghanistan

I stand corrected.

Do you think Germany's involvement in Afghanistan bearing on the Christmas market attack?

No, this is too far fetched. There are 1001 (non) reasons why Germany is also a target for terrorism. And you know. It can't be avoided, reduced yes but not with totalirism methods. Safety is an illusion. If we forgoe our freedom for more big brother etc. and we break out in panic, the terrorists (no matter if left, right or islamic) achieve what they want. Most important thing is that we don't give them what they want - they all want to see fear. They want to see that we stop our democratic and liberal (not as cuss like some US people use it) freedom.

Germany also did see a nazi terrorist killing 9 people last year in Munich. That guy wanted to see the fear in the faces of the people, because he was on a revenge tour for his miserable life ...
Germany also saw 122 nazi arsonist terror attacks in 2015. Other sources say 94 nazi arsonist terror attacks and 8 nazi terror  bomb attacks.
In 2016 Germany saw 66 nazi asronist terror attacks and 4 nazi terror bomb attacks.
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« Reply #5603 on: January 24, 2017, 07:36:08 PM »
I'm worried.

In a speech at the CIA, Trump blathered on about how the "media" lied about how many people were at his Inauguration. He also had his press secretary claim that the crowd there was the biggest ever.

Even given that estimating the size of a crowd is an inexact science, no sane person can agree with him. Any reasonable estimate, from Metro ridership figures to aerial photos of the Mall, show that Obama's first inauguration had around twice the attendance.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/01/21/on-day-two-of-his-presidency-trump-wages-war-with-the-media-over-the-size-of-his-inauguration-crowd/?utm_term=.af3e87ec9778

What worries me is that someone who is that delusional cannot possibly be of sound mind. We've got rules and procedures in place for dealing with a physical illness in the President, but not when he is insane.....

On a more pleasant matter of crowds, anyone catch any of the many Women's Marches? The main one in DC had about twice as many people as the Inauguration - and as far as is known, not a single arrest. Not one. Or at least none related to the March that I've read of.

Marches took place around the world. Auckland, New Zealand. Barcelona, Spain. Accra, Ghana. Berlin, Germany. Prague, Czechia.

Some photos showing the size of the crowds (yes, the snow in Boise ID didn't keep people away. And the crowd in Chicago was so huge that they actually had to call off the "march" portion of it because they couldn't move):
We also had a huge march here in MN yesterday. It was really empowering. :)

Was that were Madonna made those threats? People actually clapping the idea of blowing up the White House? Pretty insane. No one worried? Imagine if someone like Kid Rock wouldve said the exact same thing during Barack Obamas time. Oh, you dont want to imagine that and you just want to crawl back to your safe space do you?

Didnt see very many "pro-life" women there. Mustve been a pro choice march?

Linda Sarsour was one of the organizers wasnt she? Pretty sure she loves Sharia law.

And then there was this. And self proclaimed "anarchists" asking police officers to make arrests.

But pretty empowering nonetheless.
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Imagine if Obama, Kamala, or Biden survived two assassination attempts and the media not publicly destroying the reputation of everyone who issued even the most mild criticism of them and then just dropping the story completely.

Yeah, I cannot either.

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« Reply #5604 on: January 25, 2017, 12:26:52 AM »
I'm worried.

In a speech at the CIA, Trump blathered on about how the "media" lied about how many people were at his Inauguration. He also had his press secretary claim that the crowd there was the biggest ever.

Even given that estimating the size of a crowd is an inexact science, no sane person can agree with him. Any reasonable estimate, from Metro ridership figures to aerial photos of the Mall, show that Obama's first inauguration had around twice the attendance.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/01/21/on-day-two-of-his-presidency-trump-wages-war-with-the-media-over-the-size-of-his-inauguration-crowd/?utm_term=.af3e87ec9778

What worries me is that someone who is that delusional cannot possibly be of sound mind. We've got rules and procedures in place for dealing with a physical illness in the President, but not when he is insane.....

On a more pleasant matter of crowds, anyone catch any of the many Women's Marches? The main one in DC had about twice as many people as the Inauguration - and as far as is known, not a single arrest. Not one. Or at least none related to the March that I've read of.

Marches took place around the world. Auckland, New Zealand. Barcelona, Spain. Accra, Ghana. Berlin, Germany. Prague, Czechia.

Some photos showing the size of the crowds (yes, the snow in Boise ID didn't keep people away. And the crowd in Chicago was so huge that they actually had to call off the "march" portion of it because they couldn't move):
We also had a huge march here in MN yesterday. It was really empowering. :)

Was that were Madonna made those threats? People actually clapping the idea of blowing up the White House? Pretty insane. No one worried? Imagine if someone like Kid Rock wouldve said the exact same thing during Barack Obamas time. Oh, you dont want to imagine that and you just want to crawl back to your safe space do you?

Didnt see very many "pro-life" women there. Mustve been a pro choice march?

Linda Sarsour was one of the organizers wasnt she? Pretty sure she loves Sharia law.

And then there was this. And self proclaimed "anarchists" asking police officers to make arrests.

But pretty empowering nonetheless.

What a comical situation. Roland Emmerich blew up the White House many times in his movies - especially in "Independence Day". And this was called a patriotic movie. And now this ...
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« Reply #5605 on: January 25, 2017, 03:55:56 AM »
Safety is an illusion. If we forgoe our freedom for more big brother etc.
There is a balance to be struck.  In the UK where I live there is a plethora of surveillance - yet we have, so far, escaped mass terrorism (in recent years).  I'm probably tempting fate by saying that now.   

Most important thing is that we don't give them what they want - they all want to see fear. They want to see that we stop our democratic and liberal
I completely agree with you on that.
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« Reply #5606 on: January 25, 2017, 12:14:32 PM »
I wish government would let women control their own bodies.


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« Reply #5608 on: January 26, 2017, 11:05:07 PM »
This is Section 4 of the Twenty-Fifth Amendment:

Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.


Otherwise known as "How to Remove a President Who is Batshit Insane Without Having to Go Through an Impeachment".

Keith Olbermann explained it last November:



Mike Pence is looking better and better by the day. He may be "lawful evil" on domestic social issues and unknown on everything else, but he's not Insanely Chaotic Evil.
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« Reply #5609 on: January 28, 2017, 12:31:26 PM »
Our Word For The Day:

claque  [klak]

noun

1. a group of persons hired to applaud an act or performer.

2. a group of sycophants.


Like DNC hiring paid actors to fill in dozens of empty chairs after Hillary cheated half of the base that left the convention in disgust?

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Example:

Nominee Hillary Clinton uses a claque at her speeches to make it look like the Democratic party was united at the convention in July before Trump did it.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-28/did-dnc-hire-actors-below-minimum-wage-work-convention