[andrat2000]

LONDON

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-39359158

What shall we do with the **93** western? 

Aircraftcarrier sent to the Middle East and carpet-bombing?

Or negotiations?

Maybe or maybe not this was a islamistic terror attack. But you already speculate to bomb or negotiate with Middle East? Really?

[andrat2000]

I think it is apparent by now that you just don't care about what is happening to your country, and are willing to justify whatever this man does to an absurd degree, simply because "your guy" has "won", and because you irrationally hate Hillary Clinton, liberal Democrats, and perhaps even the idea of democracy itself. 

Good luck to you, and I hope you get exactly what you wish.

Got to the same conclusion. I tried it several times, but got denied any discussion based on democratic values. Especially when he started to post far below 18 years pictures with a clearly racistic intention to make his point and support his previous opinions with it.

[TheZookie007]

Maybe or maybe not this was a islamistic terror attack. But you already speculate to bomb or negotiate with Middle East? Really?

But of course. I mean, why bother with trying to determine who exactly is responsible for this, and determining what their affiliation is, when one can instead go straight to the knee-jerk reaction of "it was a terror attack, therefore it MUST be from a Mooslem turrist"? 

It may be, or it may not be. Let's find out first. Get the facts, and then determine a course of action, and then act.

[andrat2000]

Maybe or maybe not this was a islamistic terror attack. But you already speculate to bomb or negotiate with Middle East? Really?

But of course. I mean, why bother with trying to determine who exactly is responsible for this, and determining what their affiliation is, when one can instead go straight to the knee-jerk reaction of "it was a terror attack, therefore it MUST be from a Mooslem turrist"? 

It may be, or it may not be. Let's find out first. Get the facts, and then determine a course of action, and then act.

That's our idiotic times. Not waiting for results of the investigations. Blurting out every BS.

3+ hours ago they believed they knew who it is. But then another information came up that the suspect is still being in prision ...

If you search for the name google immediately turns out Russia Today, a known extremist right wing blog about Berlin (which is registred in Delaware and the author is a pseudonym) and an austrian online newspaper that is known for clickbait. And certainly not to be missed is the leading extremistic right wing German and muslim hater website PI News.

As I said idiotic times.

[StrikezOne]

Apparently disliking the fact that the United States has meddled in dozens of other countries elections makes me lack democratic values. Yeah, that dumbass liberal logic.
Anyone got the cojones? I took some Qs out as to not trigger anyone.

3. What is the difference between what is being alleged Russia did in the elections to what CNN actually did? CNN hosted and moderated a debate

4. How many countries's elections has the United States meddled in?

5. Has there been any evidence proving Russia "hacked" the elections?

7. Why is Wikileaks completely ignored when they release material proving the CIA/NSA has capabilities of being able to hack and leave a trail back to Russia?

8. How many foreign donors did Hillary Clinton and her campaign/foundation have?

[rtpoe]

Let the Brits handle it. They got worse from the IRA.....

[andrat2000]

Let the Brits handle it. They got worse from the IRA.....

That's true. They have the experience.

[andrat2000]

Of course, a few hours before this happened, her father went on to Twitter, lied about it, and then deleted the tweet in question.

This is not normal.

You know the most astonishing thing is. This Trumpel, his consultants and his junta government lies when they open the mouth. Every time. And not small lies, no small incorrectnesses, no just universum sized lies ... that can cause really bad trouble, extreme trouble, up to nuclear holocaust. And they deny to learn out of it. They never say sorry it was a mistake. They always say it was the others fault, never their own. No single self-reflection.

But then their supporters go out into the Internet and find small little pieces of Obama and his people or president candidate Clintion and try to tell me they are evil, they lied, they caused amaggedon ....

... then I take a second. Look at the last 10 years and see nothing of this acutally even remotely happend the last 10 years. Well, what do I think of these supporters of Trumpel & Co.? I better don't tell because it is against rules.

[StrikezOne]

And not small lies, no small incorrectnesses, no just universum sized lies ... that can cause really bad trouble, extreme trouble, up to nuclear holocaust.

Fallacy. Again.

But then their supporters go out into the Internet and find small little pieces of Obama and his people or president candidate Clintion and try to tell me they are evil, they lied, they caused amaggedon ....

... then I take a second. Look at the last 10 years and see nothing of this acutally even remotely happend the last 10 years.

Really? So everything I showed about Obama and Hillary that was a negative thing has been a lie? It must be so nice to live in such a warped little bubble.

You talk about self reflect but exhibit ZERO amount of it. I can find plenty of things to criticize Trump about, like the fact that he doesn't put a complete halt to the NSA data mining, some nepotism,  his aggression in Yemen....

But clearly leftists cannot do the same with Obama or Hillary. They want to hyperventilate at EVERYTHING Trump does. I showed Obama and Hillary in their own words backing more or less a border for illegal immigration, liberals ignore it but have a seizure because Trump actually does something.

Get over yourselves.

[andrat2000]

LONDON

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-39359158

What shall we do with the **93** western? 

Aircraftcarrier sent to the Middle East and carpet-bombing?

Or negotiations?

And now? The amok driver is born and raised in Great Britain? Is the Royal Airforce now going to carpet bomb England? And will Mrs. May negotiat with herself?

Gosh ...

[rtpoe]

"...Trump actually does something."

Like what?

What has he accomplished in his first two months in office?

There are some 550+ federal positions where he needs to appoint someone, and get Congressional approval. So far, he hasn't even come up with nominees for 497 of them.

The only pieces of actual legislation he’s signed involve 1) Rolling back a regulation that made it harder for mentally ill people to buy guns. 2) Renaming a veteran’s health clinic. 3) Signing two purely symbolic bills about encouraging women in science and technology. His many executive orders are all show and no substance.

The GOP's replacement for the Affordable Care Act looks dead in the water. Trump’s budget proposal is just that  - a proposal - and it doesn't look like it's going anywhere. The latest version of his order about travel restrictions from Islamic countries is held up in court. Trump may have signaled shifts in policy, but he has yet to make any real changes — like passing (or even PROPOSING) actual laws — that will actually MAKE a difference.

Do not mistake "activity" for "accomplishment".

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/03/trump-still-hasnt-done-very-much-214932

If he actually has accomplished anything, it's diminishing respect for the Presidency.

TIME Magazine just published and extensive and wide-ranging interview with Trump. Here's how he ended the interview:

MICHAEL SCHERER: But you are saying to me now, that you don't believe the intelligence community when they say your tweet was wrong.

DONALD TRUMP: I'm not blaming. First of all, I put Mike Pompeo in. I put Senator Dan Coats in. These are great people. I think they are great people and they are going to, I have a lot of confidence in them. So hopefully things will straighten out. But I inherited a mess, I inherited a mess in so many ways. I inherited a mess in the Middle East, and a mess with North Korea, I inherited a mess with jobs, despite the statistics, you know, my statistics are even better, but they are not the real statistics because you have millions of people that can't get a job, ok. And I inherited a mess on trade. I mean we have many, you can go up and down the ladder. But that's the story. Hey look, in the mean time, I guess, I can't be doing so badly, because I'm president, and you're not. You know. Say hello to everybody OK?

(emphasis mine)

Great god in heaven, you actually expect him to be going "Nyah, nyah, you're a loser!" like some spoiled nine year old!

Look, it comes down to a matter of trust.

Our allies need to trust us to keep our promises. NATO countries need to know that we've got their back if Russia gets uppity again. Japan and South Korea are counting on our assistance when North Korea rattles its saber. Can they trust a president who can't even speak in reasonably coherent sentences?

The American public also needs to be able to trust the President. He's the one who gets to order us into wars, and rallies public support for policy proposals. Though we were hesitant (with good reason) when George W. Bush said that Sadaam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, we gave him the benefit of the doubt because he was the president, and you have to be able to trust the president. When Barack Obama was trying to persuade us that the Affordable Care Act was a good thing, he told us "If you like your plan, you can keep it." When things didn't work out that way, he took a severe credibility hit that he has yet to recover from. We trusted him....

Can we trust a president who blatantly lies, then when called on them, doubles down again and again, never admitting that just maybe he might have been mistaken?

In case you weren't paying close attention earlier this week, there's a ban on laptops on airline flights originating from certain areas in the Middle East. Apparently, raids in Yemen picked up intel that suggests that terrorists can "weaponize" laptop batteries in a way that gets past current security procedures. So all laptops and tablets on those flights have to be stowed in checked baggage.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/03/21/what-triggered-the-laptop-ban-on-flights-answers-don-t-add-up-yet.html

It's a relatively minor thing in and of itself, so we can grudgingly deal with it.

But what if, for example, the NSA finds information that North Korea has a nuke that will fit onto a missile that can reach not only Japan, but parts of Alaska? Could we trust President Trump when he tells the world that we need to take action NOW, and that economic sanctions aren't going to be enough??

Can we ever trust him to tell the truth about anything?

[StrikezOne]

@rtpoe

Well you showed much maturity and I applaud you for that.

I misspelled what I was trying to say when it came to talking about illegal immigration. I meant that Trump seems to be dead set on his word about doing something there.

Nonetheless, you have your reasons why you dont support Trump and I can at least, judging by your last comment, understand why.

As far as what he has "accomplished" in his first two months in office... Do you think the executive orders have been all show? If that were the case then that travel ban wouldnt get so much attention.

He has taken steps, at least IMO, to do something about lobbyists in Washington... with the 5 year ban and lifetime ban on behalf of foreign governments.

I know for sure that the United States has pulled out of the Trans Pacific Partnership. Hillary would have green lit that. If you ask me, the TPP is a big difference.

He has nominated a rather conservative Supreme Court justice. And I know the left isnt happy about that but at least the left can say that he kept his word on that.

I am not going to defend his behavior and his speaking mannerisms but I will say that a lot of people were sick of a robotic, lifeless politician on camera. We can at least agree that he truly is being himself and not some teleprompter puppet.... some people just like that but again... I can understand why some do not.

And you know what, I am glad that someone at least was able to recognize a flaw or a lie that came from the Holier than thou, Obama.

[rtpoe]

It's over. Obamacare is here to stay.

When it became clear that the GOP didn't have the votes to pass the AHCA, Ryan gave up and pulled it. And from the way he was speaking, it will be a long, long time before the GOP tries again.

LOSERS:

Paul Ryan. Ending Obamacare was the big thing he wanted to get done. He practically staked his career on it. Now that he's got the stench of failure on him, he'll have a hell of a time getting any of his other big plans through.

Donald Trump. Despite all his browbeating, he couldn't get enough Republicans to commit to the AHCA. He won't admit failure, of course, but for someone who promised SO MUCH WINNING that we'd get tired of it, it reflects very badly on his deal-making abilities. In business, if a deal falls through, you can find other people to deal with. There's only one Congress.....

The GOP. Gee, they tried so often to repeal Obamacare when they were in the minority, and didn't control the White House. Now, with control of BOTH Congress AND the White House, they couldn't pull it off.... The party split between the moderates who thought the AHCA went too far, and the reactionaries who thought it didn't go far enough. Can they heal the rift? Maybe it's covered under the ACA.....

WINNERS:

Barack Obama. Duh. The longer his signature accomplishment stays in place, the more people get used to it, and the harder it will be to change it. He's got to be smiling.

The Democrats. Duh. Thanks to the GOP surrender, they've got a huge victory. It bodes well for them in the future, if they can keep up the energy (and don't wait for the GOP to fall over itself).

The people who showed up at the many "town halls" and let their Representatives have it. Gee, where did those "moderate" Republicans come from? Maybe some of them saw and heard what their constituents were saying about the ACA? http://twitter.com/IndivisibleTeam

FACTOID OF THE DAY:

Number of days the Democrats spent working on the ACA (from the initial proposal to the final passage): 383

Number of days the Republicans spent working on the AHCA: 36

[andrat2000]

It's over. Obamacare is here to stay.

When it became clear that the GOP didn't have the votes to pass the AHCA, Ryan gave up and pulled it. And from the way he was speaking, it will be a long, long time before the GOP tries again.

LOSERS:

Paul Ryan. Ending Obamacare was the big thing he wanted to get done. He practically staked his career on it. Now that he's got the stench of failure on him, he'll have a hell of a time getting any of his other big plans through.

Donald Trump. Despite all his browbeating, he couldn't get enough Republicans to commit to the AHCA. He won't admit failure, of course, but for someone who promised SO MUCH WINNING that we'd get tired of it, it reflects very badly on his deal-making abilities. In business, if a deal falls through, you can find other people to deal with. There's only one Congress.....

The GOP. Gee, they tried so often to repeal Obamacare when they were in the minority, and didn't control the White House. Now, with control of BOTH Congress AND the White House, they couldn't pull it off.... The party split between the moderates who thought the AHCA went too far, and the reactionaries who thought it didn't go far enough. Can they heal the rift? Maybe it's covered under the ACA.....

WINNERS:

Barack Obama. Duh. The longer his signature accomplishment stays in place, the more people get used to it, and the harder it will be to change it. He's got to be smiling.

The Democrats. Duh. Thanks to the GOP surrender, they've got a huge victory. It bodes well for them in the future, if they can keep up the energy (and don't wait for the GOP to fall over itself).

The people who showed up at the many "town halls" and let their Representatives have it. Gee, where did those "moderate" Republicans come from? Maybe some of them saw and heard what their constituents were saying about the ACA? http://twitter.com/IndivisibleTeam

FACTOID OF THE DAY:

Number of days the Democrats spent working on the ACA (from the initial proposal to the final passage): 383

Number of days the Republicans spent working on the AHCA: 36

Let's simplify it: "all talk, no action" and when he tries action by bypassing parliaments he fails anyway. It's time he fires his whisperes in the background like Steve Bannon. Those are only hot air. They never understood the world works different and is much more complex than it works in their heads.

[TheZookie007]

It's over. Obamacare is here to stay.

When it became clear that the GOP didn't have the votes to pass the AHCA, Ryan gave up and pulled it. And from the way he was speaking, it will be a long, long time before the GOP tries again.

Not so fast. Although someone who is even closer to the legislation than I am agrees with you, I don't trust Rep. Ryan as far as I can throw him. This Repubican-led Congress can still pull a fast one somewhere down the line, unless people continue to lean on them.

These people have wasted the past seven years on trying to get rid of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, even in the face of its undoubted popularity with their citizens. You would think they would say to themselves, "OK, our constituents think this is a good thing, maybe we shouldn't mess with it." But that would mean that they suddenly grew a heart or a conscience...and when you have the Speaker of the House bragging in public about dreaming about wanting to kick poor people off of Medicaid since he was a college frat boy, that seems unlikely.

FACTOID OF THE DAY:

Number of days the Democrats spent working on the ACA (from the initial proposal to the final passage): 383

Number of days the Republicans spent working on the AHCA: 36

Strangely enough, during that year and change when they were working on the PPACA, I seem to remember a certain Congressman railing against how it was being rushed and crammed down our throats. How soon they forget. (The same day he gave this fiery speech, March 21, 2010, was the same day the House of Representatives voted 219-212 to pass the bill, sending it to President Obama's desk for signature.)