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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #9735 on: September 16, 2025, 08:12:51 PM »
Let's change the topic.

What do you think of these two scenarios?

First:

A government sends its military to attack a small unarmed boat in international waters that happens to be heading in the direction of their country[1]. On seeing the military aircraft approaching, the boat turns around and heads for home[2][3]. The aircraft still attack it, sinking the boat and coming around for additional strikes to make sure there are no survivors[4]. The government says they were terrorists bringing contraband to its shores - but cannot or will not produce any evidence to support that claim.

Would you consider that an act of war? Should there at least be an investigation to what happened?

Second:

A government official introduces a measure that would allow the government to revoke the passport of anyone who it deems has lent support to a "terrorist organization"[1]. While there's already a similar measure on the books, this new measure will give the government greater powers to decide who to target[2][3], and limit the ability of the targeted party to challenge the revocation. Even more concerning, recent proclamations from the government strongly suggest that they will label any organization that supports the Opposition Party in any way - or even the Opposition Party itself[4] - as a "terrorist organization".

Isn't that something you'd expect a fascist dictatorship to do?
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« Reply #9736 on: September 16, 2025, 08:49:53 PM »
Let's change the topic.

Lets not.

THE RHETORIC OF THE DEMOCRAT PARTY AND MAINSTREAM MEDIA MURDERED CHARLIE KIRK.

The fact that you have nothing to say, much less take accountability about anything dating back to Covid, denounce the violence, and intentionally not wanting to discuss it is further proof that the Democrats are not interested in anything other than themselves, theres no such thing as "Coexist" with these people. The "tolerant left" my ass.

Here is a list of other people that the Left would celebrate and mock if they died:
Steven Crowder, Tim Pool, Milo, Russell Brand, Tucker Carlson, Laura Loomer, Alex Jones, Megyn Kelly, Glen Beck....

And by the way, a lot of these people have been harrassed, assaulted, doxxed, and even had attempts on their lives. Tell me something, isnt silencing opposing views, anyone who disagrees, murdering them for their views something a fascist would support?

Wont answer that will you? Of course not. Not going to engage in debate will you? Of course you wont.
Imagine if Obama, Kamala, or Biden survived two assassination attempts and the media not publicly destroying the reputation of everyone who issued even the most mild criticism of them and then just dropping the story completely.

Yeah, I cannot either.

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« Reply #9737 on: September 17, 2025, 08:19:10 PM »
No need to yell, you might burst a blood vessel.....

Speaking of silencing opposing views:

Jimmy Kimmel's show pulled off-air 'indefinitely' by ABC after Charlie Kirk comments
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/tv/2025/09/17/jimmy-kimmel-live-suspended-charlie-kirk-comments/86209499007/
Brendan Carr, the chairman of the Federal Communications Commission, had seemingly threatened ABC, Disney and Kimmel over his monologue about Kirk during a YouTube episode of commentator Benny Johnson's show on Sept. 17. "We can do this the easy way or the hard way," Carr said.
"There's calls for Kimmel to be fired," he added. "I think you could certainly see a path forward for suspension over this."

FCC threatens Jimmy Kimmel. ABC shamefully caves. This is a disgrace | Opinion
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/media/2025/09/17/fcc-threats-jimmy-kimmel/86206823007/

And with regards to who's doing the violence, a study published last year by the National Institute of Justice - a research arm of the Department of Justice - had this to say:

"Militant, nationalistic, white supremacist violent extremism has increased in the United States. In fact, the number of far-right attacks continues to outpace all other types of terrorism and domestic violent extremism. Since 1990, far-right extremists have committed far more ideologically motivated homicides than far-left or radical Islamist extremists, including 227 events that took more than 520 lives. In this same period, far-left extremists committed 42 ideologically motivated attacks that took 78 lives. A recent threat assessment by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security concluded that domestic violent extremists are an acute threat and highlighted a probability that COVID-19 pandemic related stressors, long-standing ideological grievances related to immigration, and narratives surrounding electoral fraud will continue to serve as a justification for violent actions."

https://web.archive.org/web/20250911165140/https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/nij/306123.pdf

Oh, by the way, you won't find that study on the DoJ website anymore (I had to use the Wayback Machine to get it). Seems it was removed from their website late last week, for no apparent reason......
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« Reply #9738 on: September 22, 2025, 02:25:09 PM »
The federal investigation concluded that the far left had no impact on Charlie Kirk. Pam Bondi removed the study that says that 75% of the shooting were from Far Right ideologist.

Can anyone explain why school children are the targets? I'm having trouble understanding how a far right person that is supposedly pro-life would take the lives of children to make a statement of some sort, and that's what I am having trouble with, I don't understand the statement or motivation?
"Yesterday, Reince Priebus called this whole story a 'nothing burger,'" he said. "Well these emails have turned it into an all-you-can-prosecute buffet."

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« Reply #9739 on: September 23, 2025, 12:10:01 AM »
No need to yell, you might burst a blood vessel.....

Better popping a blood vessel than staying silent on something so serious.

Speaking of silencing opposing views:

Jimmy Kimmel's show pulled off-air 'indefinitely' by ABC after Charlie Kirk comments
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/tv/2025/09/17/jimmy-kimmel-live-suspended-charlie-kirk-comments/86209499007/
Brendan Carr, the chairman of the Federal Communications Commission, had seemingly threatened ABC, Disney and Kimmel over his monologue about Kirk during a YouTube episode of commentator Benny Johnson's show on Sept. 17. "We can do this the easy way or the hard way," Carr said.
"There's calls for Kimmel to be fired," he added. "I think you could certainly see a path forward for suspension over this."

FCC threatens Jimmy Kimmel. ABC shamefully caves. This is a disgrace | Opinion
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/media/2025/09/17/fcc-threats-jimmy-kimmel/86206823007/

This is rich. On so many levels.

1. The party that cries out about "dangerous misinformation" is all the sudden okay with it as long its their political ally.
2. Does this mean that Alex Jones should not have to pay billions in that Sandy Hook case? You give a flying fuck about his free speech?
3. Did you give a flying fuck about ABC firing Roseanne Barr? Or when Gina Carano got fired? Tim Allen?
4. Any Democrat give a flying fuck when people were being censored, removed from platforms, fired and banned when they questioned Covid in the slightest? How about free speech about the 2020 election?
5. Did you give a flying fuck when the President of the United States himself was deplatformed?

You want to talk about silencing opposing views? YOU HAVE ZERO CREDIBILTY. How many times do I have to repeat myself? And according to you, silencing opposing views by murdering them aint worthy of discussion.

And with regards to who's doing the violence, a study published last year by the National Institute of Justice - a research arm of the Department of Justice - had this to say:

"Militant, nationalistic, white supremacist violent extremism has increased in the United States. In fact, the number of far-right attacks continues to outpace all other types of terrorism and domestic violent extremism. Since 1990, far-right extremists have committed far more ideologically motivated homicides than far-left or radical Islamist extremists, including 227 events that took more than 520 lives. In this same period, far-left extremists committed 42 ideologically motivated attacks that took 78 lives. A recent threat assessment by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security concluded that domestic violent extremists are an acute threat and highlighted a probability that COVID-19 pandemic related stressors, long-standing ideological grievances related to immigration, and narratives surrounding electoral fraud will continue to serve as a justification for violent actions."

https://web.archive.org/web/20250911165140/https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/nij/306123.pdf

Oh, by the way, you won't find that study on the DoJ website anymore (I had to use the Wayback Machine to get it). Seems it was removed from their website late last week, for no apparent reason......

WOW. A Biden DOJ study?
We are witnessing in real time how the media is trying to frame Tyler Robinson as right wing. Is he going to be added to that "list" as right wing violence? Theres a lot I can say about this, how they skew these numbers and manipulate them. Is crime up, is it down? Do they hide certain stats?

Lets just do this:

The Uvalde shooter.
Nashville shooter.
Colorado shooter.
Minneapolis church shooter.
Steve Scalise.
Attempt on Brett Kavanaugh.
Attempt on Donald Trump.
2nd attempt on Donald Trump.
BLM riots in Ferguson.
BLM riots in Baltimore.
BLM riots in Kentucky.
BLM riots in Milwaukee.
BLM riots in 2020.
ANTIFA riots.
Burning Tesla cars.
2016 shooting of Dallas police.
Waukesha.
Healthcare CEO.
All the random attacks like throwing people into the subway, and stabbings in the subway.
Assassination of Charlie Kirk.

And trust me theres plenty more.
How many buildings burned after Charlie was murdered? How many riots were there? None. Just vigils.
Imagine if Obama, Kamala, or Biden survived two assassination attempts and the media not publicly destroying the reputation of everyone who issued even the most mild criticism of them and then just dropping the story completely.

Yeah, I cannot either.

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« Reply #9740 on: September 24, 2025, 09:47:05 PM »
Well what do you know, another day, more left wing political violence. This time they aimed at ICE agents. Now where in the world do you think they were motivated to do such a thing?

Also, anyone one remember this:

I don't understand how people can support this Nazi Trumpelstilsken. By supporting him or trying to find non-exsistent positive aspects they become Nazi animals themselves.
Why I write this? Since October 2017 by Trumpelstilskens initiative they are separating children (700 by now) a hundred below 4 years from their parents. The parents are sent back over the boarder, the children also get stored away in private prisons, some even in prison cells and even in cages. This is what jurists/lawyers say.

Historians compare this with the Nazis under Adolf Hitler.

Trumpelstilsken supporters are animals!


Did any of you guys call this shit out? Did anyone ever say "hey tone down the rhetoric"? Silence is compliance, right?

The Democrat Party is the party of hatred, violence, and murder.
Imagine if Obama, Kamala, or Biden survived two assassination attempts and the media not publicly destroying the reputation of everyone who issued even the most mild criticism of them and then just dropping the story completely.

Yeah, I cannot either.

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« Reply #9741 on: September 25, 2025, 08:54:54 PM »
You know, you should really offer your services to the FBI since you can so quickly determine the motive of every single shooter in the country.....
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« Reply #9742 on: September 26, 2025, 08:09:05 PM »
OK, ok. We can all agree that calling for violence against people on the other side is Double Plus Ungood, right?

Surely none of us want something like this to happen again.

So if a person in a position of authority, responsibility, and public trust calls for the execution of a member of Congress, they should be penalized in some fashion, right?

Even if they are a Republican?

https://azmirror.com/2025/09/25/john-gillette-gop-lawmaker-calls-for-democratic-congresswoman-to-be-executed-for-urging-trump-protests/
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« Reply #9743 on: October 06, 2025, 10:09:14 PM »
You know, you should really offer your services to the FBI since you can so quickly determine the motive of every single shooter in the country.....

If a transgender shoots up a catholic school and a manifesto is found, it aint difficult to figure out the motive. You dont need to be in the FBI to recognize patterns. But apparently you need to be in denial to ignore them. You should offer your services to late night comedy shows, since you seem more interested in sounding smug rather than being honest.

OK, ok. We can all agree that calling for violence against people on the other side is Double Plus Ungood, right?

Ok, ok? Double Plus Ungood? Yeah, its all one big joke to you aint it?

Surely none of us want something like this to happen again.

How many FBI agents were undercover here? Where they the agitators? Why did Nancy decline National Guard? It might be in your best interest as a Democrat to actually stop bringing this up. Similar to Covid, which by the way, nothing to say about that do you?

And funny enough, Democrats today are behaving VERY much like the Confederates in the 1860's. They are trying to preserve their slave-class as they see them and are actively defying federal authority. They are openly engaging in literal treasonous/seditious insurrection.

So if a person in a position of authority, responsibility, and public trust calls for the execution of a member of Congress, they should be penalized in some fashion, right?

Even if they are a Republican?

https://azmirror.com/2025/09/25/john-gillette-gop-lawmaker-calls-for-democratic-congresswoman-to-be-executed-for-urging-trump-protests/

Why dont you focus your attention on fixing your side, calling them out, apologizing on their behalf, literally anything, instead of trying to shift the blame? Theres a mountain of a problem on the left but you want to talk about the anthill of a problem on the right. "...people like this, that advocate for the overthrow of the American government are tried convicted and hanged..." Traitors to the country punished by death? Is that the extent of it?

You address ANY of the videos/times where Dems are calling for violence?

Tell me just ONE top Democrat official who has NOT called the right; fascist or nazi. Just ONE.
Imagine if Obama, Kamala, or Biden survived two assassination attempts and the media not publicly destroying the reputation of everyone who issued even the most mild criticism of them and then just dropping the story completely.

Yeah, I cannot either.

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« Reply #9744 on: October 12, 2025, 12:17:34 PM »
Just a reminder that Trump calls his own party fascist, and that all who are against fascism is a terrorist! No need to call them that, when he does it for you !
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« Reply #9745 on: October 12, 2025, 02:25:04 PM »
Just a reminder that Trump calls his own party fascist...

Another asinine comment. Go figure.
"Calls" as in multiples times. And when exactly has he done that?

The constitution also calls for the right to an equal education, which our govt has violated by with holding funding for the public schools. The court has ordered the gov't to pay for the education.

And your not going to get away with this. Where does it say this in the Constitution?

We disagree on the privileged of owning a gun, as in the constitution says a "well regulated Militia" and it's been known disagreement of that terminology of many political scholars....

Conservatives think guns are for hunting, protecting our families and defending ourselves from tyranny because thats what we use them for.

Liberals think guns are used to murder people… because thats what they use them for.
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Yeah, I cannot either.

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« Reply #9746 on: October 12, 2025, 07:46:48 PM »
Brown v. Board of Education

Even if you don't read, they made countless movies and documentary on this!
This is why nobody debates with you!

Meanwhile, in Portland the antifa is terrorizing the city of one block with this angry mob!
And even had a wedding ceremony at the protest! Thank goodness we have the National Guard protecting us from them!
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« Reply #9747 on: October 13, 2025, 12:11:56 AM »
Brown v. Board of Education

Even if you don't read, they made countless movies and documentary on this!
This is why nobody debates with you!

There is no fundamental right to education in the Constitution. You were NOT focusing on equality in education like racial segregation or equal access. You were arguing that education itself is a right. Your response was essentially saying that the government has a Constitutional obligation to provide public education.

The constitution also calls for the right to an equal education, which our govt has violated by with holding funding for the public schools. The court has ordered the gov't to pay for the education.

Even if you cant write in proper English to express your thoughts, there is plenty translators online!
This is why its so easy to debate with you!

You want to go down that Antifa route, I wouldnt advise it. But since you provided a picture.... Check out this video of one of them.
Imagine if Obama, Kamala, or Biden survived two assassination attempts and the media not publicly destroying the reputation of everyone who issued even the most mild criticism of them and then just dropping the story completely.

Yeah, I cannot either.

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« Reply #9748 on: October 14, 2025, 09:42:46 PM »
MEANWHILE,
Because you surely missed it:

The remnants of Typhoon Halong battered western Alaska recently. Homes, with people in them, have literally been swept into the Bering Strait. It has to be mentioned that the affected communities are so remote that you can't get there by road. Sea and air only. Same for getting out.

State authorities and the Coast Guard are doing their best to help, but there's no sign of FEMA.

You'd expect that agency to be on top of things, but given what the current administration thinks about them, and the level of competence of the people in charge of that agency.....

It could also be noted that the people in those small communities of largely indigenous people generally rely on their local - and only - radio station, one that's part of the NPR "network", for news and information. But that network's been defunded, because El Presidente and his council believe NPR does nothing but spread "antifa" and Marxist propaganda....

Oh, it should really be noted that the storm shifted significantly from its predicted track. Perhaps if NOAA hadn't had its funding slashed for being an unnecessary extravagance, weather balloon observations in the region might have been frequent enough to spot the signs in time to warn people....

But it's more important that El Presidente go on a self-congratulating tour of the Middle East (for being in the room while a cease-fire between Israel and Hamas was worked on (one that might not last the month week)) and giving a posthumous medal to someone than do give a crap about American citizens.

Kipnuk, Alaska after the storm passed:
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« Reply #9749 on: October 15, 2025, 12:22:54 AM »
"The constitution also calls for the right to an equal education, which our govt has violated by with holding funding for the public schools. The court has ordered the gov't to pay for the education"

You quoted me that I said it? and now you say that I didn't ?!?!?!?

This is why I don't debate you!
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"Yesterday, Reince Priebus called this whole story a 'nothing burger,'" he said. "Well these emails have turned it into an all-you-can-prosecute buffet."