[mofoapoo]

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Dearc said:
It makes sense to me: if you can't sustain yourself, your society, family, etc. don't have more.

...so you are telling a group of people who's only positive thing in life is sex...to not have any?

Trust me, they aren't gonna listen to you.

it's better to teach them about birth control, and in situations where it doesn't work out, abortions should be there for those who need it.

the church has tried your way for years, and it's not working.

[pedonbio]

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gOOber said:
I hope our first African American president will remind Americans to show a proper respect to a forgotten part of  our history.

gOOb, that's a great parody! Ken Burns probably wishes he had made it. I love the disclaimer at the end: "No one really caught fire in making this film."

[Dearc]

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mofoapoo said:

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Dearc said:
It makes sense to me: if you can't sustain yourself, your society, family, etc. don't have more.

...so you are telling a group of people who's only positive thing in life is sex...to not have any?

Trust me, they aren't gonna listen to you.

it's better to teach them about birth control, and in situations where it doesn't work out, abortions should be there for those who need it.

the church has tried your way for years, and it's not working.

First thing, I was trying to make the point if you can't sustain your k!ds, don't have any.

Second, if knocking the boots is the best thing in your meager existence, while still deal with famine, war, poverty and all those good things, you're better off dead anyway.

Yes, I'm also for birth control, and for those situations that make abortion necessary, too.  But I mentioned abortion first, not birth control.  Maybe you should have asked me to clarify instead of jumping to conclusions.

Third, me and the Church will RARELY agree, as that I'm an atheist.

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70ChallRT/SE said:
Dearc, I guess all others were forced by the Republicans, Christians, and Catholic church to be irresponsible and have unprotected sex? Where are the parents of these young victims of pregnancy? those who should have taught their offspring to use some discretion as they entered maturity.

Again, this is where abortion & birth control should be taught.  However, we all know the Bush Admin & the Church have refused to instruct.  So how could ignorant parents teach their sexually active ch!ldren about other options?  It's a cycle.

[pedonbio]

Americans always get wrapped up in these debates. I don't know why. The greatest single factor affecting population growth is female education. China has tried special status for one-chi1d families, forced sterilization, forced abortions, and failed miserably at controlling population. Japan educated all its women, and the population started to drop.

Of course, for the first generation a population drop is described as "an aging population".

[mofoapoo]

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Dearc said:
Second, if knocking the boots is the best thing in your meager existence, while still deal with famine, war, poverty and all those good things, you're better off dead anyway

oh, here i was taking your seriously.  I really hope you are joking or being sarcastic.  Otherwise, I still can't take you seriously because instead, that makes you a jackass.

[Dearc]

I am being serious.  You have yet to contribute to the arguement.  If you wish to resort to name calling, screw you, too.

EDIT:  I'm just trying to make a point.  Not everyone has a bleeding heart for total strangers, especially those who've given up on trying to better their situations on their own, or at least make the best of what's given them by others.  Succinctly, I'm a cold-blooded bastard sometimes.

[gOOber]

C'mon you two, if y'all get this thread locked, it'll break my heart.

[mofoapoo]

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Dearc said:
I am being serious.  You have yet to contribute to the arguement.  If you wish to resort to name calling, screw you, too.

EDIT:  I'm just trying to make a point.  Not everyone has a bleeding heart for total strangers, especially those who've given up on trying to better their situations on their own, or at least make the best of what's given them by others.  Succinctly, I'm a cold-blooded bastard sometimes.

You know what would help to better their situations?  birth control with the option of abortion if the situation comes up.

But I guess when the world around them is wartorn and plagues with famine and sickness, it's their fault and they should die?

You said another human should die because sex is the last pleasure in life they have.  you aren't being "real" or blunt.  giving these people a safe option of abortion is not stupid, and you can claim you are against the church, but the church has that same idea.

what arguement have I not given?  I agree with Obama's lifting of the ban in question.  you have not given a good reason as to why it's bad.  You act like abortions are easier than normal birth control, and that people will go around having unprotected sex with everyone.

so i stand by my name calling.  someone who thinks someone else should die for such a stupid reason is, indeed, a jackass.

[MasterDragonfly]

Female education on birth control could likely help.

I remember hearing on the Tom Leykis show that a woman which Tom knew was under the belief that the pill is only taken when having unprotected sex.  (I don't recall whether he had had relations with her, or whether this was casual conversation, or what.)

So if she didn't have sex for a week?  No pill during that week.  If she had sex 4 times in a day?  She took a pill each of those times.

Yeah, I was astonished too.

[TheZookie007]

pedonbio is right, and so are you, MasterD. Female education is the key to controlling the size of the population. Empower women with the tools that will enable them to make decisions regarding their bodies, and give them marketable skills in the workplace, and they will be able to do great things. It is the number one means of reducing poverty, teenage pregnancy, death from childbirth, etc. "The hand that rocks the cradle," and all that.

Now, to return to the main topic of this thread:
Huffington Post: "Obama's First Air Force One Trip: Comments On Pilot's Looks, Orders Dinner (VIDEO)"

Note: although the headline is technically incorrect -- Air Force One is the call sign of ANY aircraft which has the President as a passenger; there is more than one aircraft in the presidential fleet and therefore not just one Air Force One; and at the time that this video was made, Obama was still the President-Elect (as a matter of fact, this flight was taking him to the Inauguration) -- since the pilot himself said "Welcome to Air Force One", who am I to nitpick?

[TheZookie007]

Daily Mail (UK): "Meet Obama's bodyman, the White House 'Chief of Stuff'"

[ROUNDandHEAVY]

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mofoapoo said:

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Dearc said:
I am being serious.  You have yet to contribute to the arguement.  If you wish to resort to name calling, screw you, too.

EDIT:  I'm just trying to make a point.  Not everyone has a bleeding heart for total strangers, especially those who've given up on trying to better their situations on their own, or at least make the best of what's given them by others.  Succinctly, I'm a cold-blooded bastard sometimes.

You know what would help to better their situations?  birth control with the option of abortion if the situation comes up.

But I guess when the world around them is wartorn and plagues with famine and sickness, it's their fault and they should die?

You said another human should die because sex is the last pleasure in life they have.  you aren't being "real" or blunt.  giving these people a safe option of abortion is not stupid, and you can claim you are against the church, but the church has that same idea.

what arguement have I not given?  I agree with Obama's lifting of the ban in question.  you have not given a good reason as to why it's bad.  You act like abortions are easier than normal birth control, and that people will go around having unprotected sex with everyone.

so i stand by my name calling.  someone who thinks someone else should die for such a stupid reason is, indeed, a jackass.

I have to agree. This attitude that they might as well be dead because their life sux so bad is the worst kind of bourgeois, shortsighted attitude.

If we spent a tenth of the money on feeding an educating poor people around the globe as we do firing really expensive munitions at them, the world would be a much safer and nicer place to live in.

[TheZookie007]

Hey, have you seen this kid who wants to interview Barack Obama? He's a 10-year-old 5th grader from Florida, and he's already interviewed Caroline Kennedy and Joe Biden. Some old grumpy-fish at the Huffington Post are bitching that the kid referred to the vice-president as "my homeboy", which I think is just sour grapes. I mean, he's just a kid, what does he know from protocol? I hope he gets his wish. I also hope he improves his delivery a bit since he slurs his words a tad (or maybe it's his accent, I don't know).

"Damon Weaver interviews vice-presidential candidate Joe Biden"

[Dearc]

If and when bc can be provided to those most unfortunate people in such ready abundance, then yes, by all means.  So yes, education should be priority before abortion; I conceed to that.

Jackass or not, apathy is a trait I've learned to embrace.  It's funny, being called the name of the mascot of Mofo's political affiliation to be taken as an insult, I'd rather acknowledge being an asshole. lol  The other posts are more correct than my own, but I never post to win a pissing match.  Someone here used the analogy of a movie scene to describe their character, and I thought, "Wow, I did the same thing."

"Last of the Mohicans."  Magua (Wes Studi) just killed Uncas (Eric Schwieg) and threw him over the cliff side.  Alice Munro (Jodhi May) steps out onto the edge, staring at Magua.  He lowers the hand with the knife, extends his other, offering to bring her back.  She looks back out over the edge, and falls.  He just watches her fall and leaves.  That's what I'm like; there are times I just don't care.

[Shara]

obama really loves the children, and the children love obama