[Real]

people who need to act like there is some sort of parallel in comparing a black versus a white person to a chimp make me laugh.

sorry, but if you earn a living a satirist and you draw that cartoon and look at it and say to yourself "now that's not going to have al sharpton picketing my lawn tomorrow..."  then you are beyond a blithering idiot.  

i think its obvious that there was no racist intent.  

just as its obvious that a klan member could hand that to his buddy and legitimately have a laugh through an entirely different yet valid interpretation based on the art....

[TheZookie007]

"44 Presidents"

[TheZookie007]

The more things change, the more they stay the same...

Nas protests Fox News, July 23, 2008

CBS News: "NY Post Obama Cartoon Slammed by Protestors", February 19, 2009

[TheZookie007]

Wow, Q_BE, talk about a near word-for-word rehash of the Republican talking points on this topic. Incredible.

And for those who earlier might have thought that I was insulting the third panelist of the Anderson Cooper 360 discussion by calling him Mr. Cross-Eye, here is the video.

[TheZookie007]

Could this be the reason why Obama won the election? Or was it because of this?

[Q_BE]

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TheZookie007 said:
Wow, Q_BE, talk about a near word-for-word rehash of the Republican talking points on this topic. Incredible.

Wow, Zookie. Talk about a complete avoidance of the substance of the post, just like a liberal Democrat. Incredible.

You sound like someone who knows I'm right and is afraid to engage me in the discussion.

Q-"Try me"-BE

[notty]

An evangelical Christian vs. a liberal know-it-all. This ought to be entertaining. Proceed, gentlemen!  

[3deroticer]

I have seen that show on morning Joe and Pat Buchannon discussing with 2 other white guys about the same talking point that the republican use, even the word "vitrolic" was thrown about.

almost word for word about the NY post of the dead monkey shot by policeman.

I would like to see you try to call a Afro-American a monkey in public, and see how far that will get you. But I will give you that Bush has been called a Chimp.

[Real]

again, the thing about the cartoon is that you dont even have to misinterpret it to see something racist.

nothing in the world is offensive if you dont feel like being offended by it.  fact is a cop shoots a monkey then insinuates obama's bill needs re-writing.  intentions aside, as a piece of art "racist" is a completely valid interpretation.

you know like no one forced all these christians to think a lady in a veil on the cover of playboy had to be the virgin mary, it was just something that should have been/was seen for what it was before being published.  you know, common sense.

and again speaking of common sense, i think pretending like you think calling george bush and ape and calling barack obama and ape carries the same intonations is just plain wierd and frankly very often in my experience latently racist.

[3deroticer]

Rupert Murdock has issue an apology for his heavy handed liberal bias newspaper he own for the comic racist intent drawing of the shot monkey.

 I hate to see what a conservative paper would look like if someone who own it was a conservative from Murdock liberal point of views?

[TheZookie007]

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me: Wow, Q_BE, talk about a near word-for-word rehash of the Republican talking points on this topic. Incredible.

Q_BE: Wow, Zookie. Talk about a complete avoidance of the substance of the post, just like a liberal Democrat. Incredible.

You sound like someone who knows I'm right and is afraid to engage me in the discussion.

And you make a fatal assumption: that I am a liberal Democrat.

[TheZookie007]

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Real: again, the thing about the cartoon is that you dont even have to misinterpret it to see something racist...

and again speaking of common sense, i think pretending like you think calling george bush and ape and calling barack obama and ape carries the same intonations is just plain wierd and frankly very often in my experience latently racist.

Thank you for making this point.

Speaking of people saying stuff: the chairman of the Republican National Convention called Rush Limbaugh an entertainer, and then retracted those statements and instead claimed that Limbaugh was a leader of the Republican Party. So did Gov. Bobby Jindal. Incredible. That just plain killed any sort of credibility that Michael Steele ever thought he had right there: "I'm just a figurehead, that radio talk show host guy is the real boss around the RNC". Two interesting comments:

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bracken: I think the only response to Rush Limbaugh should be, "Rush Limbaugh? Rush Limbaugh? You listen to Rush Limbaugh? Rush LIMBAUGH? What office does Rush Limbaugh hold? What resume does Rush Limbaugh have in government? You listen to, let me get this straight--Rush Limbaugh? The drug-addicted mattress and vitamin seller from the radio?"

Disbelief and scorn are the only things with which to address anyone who quotes Rush, talks about Rush, refers to Rush. Let anyone know who thinks Rush is a player that you hold that thought in greatest contempt. Listening to Rush Limbaugh should be on a par with believing that WWF Raw is real.

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womponnim: Rush made an interesting analogy in his CPAC speech I would like to point out. He explained his wishing for Obama to fail in a classic sports analogy. He spoke of being a fan of the Pittsburgh Steelers and that at the end of the Super Bowl when Kurt Warner, quarterback for the opposing Arizona Cardinals, had the ball with 15 seconds left Rush hoped Warner would fail.

I think this important to note for two points. First we already played the proverbial big game - the election - and Obama won. Therefore Rush calling for Obama's failure is like wanting Warner to get hurt in the off-season just because he beat your team. Second, in this game the winning quarterback becomes your quarterback, which makes Rush's hoping for Obama to fail more egregious because now its no longer about the good of the team but more about Rush's preferences.

For Rush (and most of the Republicans) winning is the most important thing. Winning is the be-all end-all. The greater good of America be damned. His views highlight the divide, and the danger, of those who follow Rush - winning at any cost often costs more than a team can afford.

[gOOber]

Rush Limbaugh is a dangerous, scary clown.

 

[notty]

I think people far overestimate Limbaugh's influence. There's a reason Obama et al. named him the leader of the Republican party. I'll give you a hint: it wasn't because he's the leader of the Republican Party.

[3deroticer]

Do you think the Democrat want the people to link Rush Limbaugh the leader of the Republican party because he would be an easy target to pick apart of whats wrong with the party values?
Drugs addiction, [censored] girls in the Caribbeans, making fun of people who are disable are all Rush's character flaws.