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Re: Auto Image Resizing?
« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2010, 09:44:20 AM »
Well ... yeah ... that's my home computer setup except I've got a faster 2400 baud modem.

And it's amazing how XP runs on a 6502 processor once it boots up from the data cassette.
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Re: Auto Image Resizing?
« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2010, 01:10:27 PM »
We've downshifted to 400x400. Please let us know how this works for you.

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Re: Auto Image Resizing?
« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2010, 08:10:44 PM »
Q-BE Note: Post from thread The Next Food Network Star -- Aarti reposted here for on-topic discussion

Q, we just increased the size of the thumbnails to 400x400 at your request... so why have you started image-tagging your attachments? Most people can see the images just fine at 400x400. (In fact, the 400x400 image in your post looks better than the big one IMO, because they're so low-def.)

Okay, I've fixed the post. If you really want to know why I "image-tag" my attachments, I usually find that the positioning of a picture within a post can say as much as the picture itself. It's a bit frustrating to have a picture you'd like to display FIRST at the bottom (as I wanted to do in the post above).

As to the image attachment thumbnail size being changed at my request, that's news to me. I well remember the thread in which we discussed that, but I'm far from being the only one to credit (or to blame) for that particular change. If I were actually that powerful, I'd make all BEA women spontaneously grow 12 cup sizes, but as they say: wish in one hand, sh*t in the other, and see which fills first. ;)

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EDIT: Perhaps this discussion and this edited comment should go in the Site Issues thread covering this topic, however, I noticed that images that are below 400x400 in resolution default to an even smaller thumbnail size, such as my recent post of a Nanny McPhee pic in Word Association, and additionally, the picture no longer becomes a clickable link to the pop-up picture window of we all have become so fond. Just some thoughts on this perennially-frustrating code monster we call a forum. ;)
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Re: Auto Image Resizing?
« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2010, 07:22:44 AM »
Thanks for fixing your post, It wasn't broken or wrong, but we don't want to encourage people to do that, because images posted that way load twice and defeat the purpose of thumbnailing.

You make a good point about position of the image relative to text, but in a case like that, it would look better to post your attachment in a trash thread in the Off-Topic forum, then post the image-tagged link in the thread where you want it. (As we've explained before, though, if you post an image in the OTF with the intention of image-linking it in a second thread on the same day, the 1-1-1 rule applies to the image-link in the second thread because that's where you intend the image to be seen.)

Yeah, we have a couple of conflicting scripts thumbnailing images in the forum, so images smaller than 400x400 get scaled to 250x250, and external image-links get scaled to something pathetic like 150x150. It's partly the crappy forum software and partly a modification we were testing to prevent large animated gifs from slowing down the forum. It all needs to be sorted out, but you already know what sort of timetable that will happen on.  :-\
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Re: Auto Image Resizing?
« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2010, 02:35:43 PM »
Thanks for fixing your post, It wasn't broken or wrong, but we don't want to encourage people to do that, because images posted that way load twice and defeat the purpose of thumbnailing.

I've only done that a few times since I discovered that it was a work-around solution for the inability to insert images of relative size directly into the posts without the awful 150x150 image-resizing the forum does to external image links, which has occurred since we rebooted the forum after the 2009 Forum Fastapazool. :-\

You make a good point about position of the image relative to text, but in a case like that, it would look better to post your attachment in a trash thread in the Off-Topic forum, then post the image-tagged link in the thread where you want it. (As we've explained before, though, if you post an image in the OTF with the intention of image-linking it in a second thread on the same day, the 1-1-1 rule applies to the image-link in the second thread because that's where you intend the image to be seen.)

Yeah, I understand the rules of your suggested work-around perfectly, however, I've never been entirely comfortable with posting a "Trash" thread simply to attach an image to a post to which I would like to link externally in another thread. I think I take that from my early forum days, at a movies forum which shall not be named, where I tended to struggle to make on-topic posts and where threads I posted were continually scrutinized by others for appropriate content and context. Not a fun way to live, if you ask me. ::)

As an aside, do you think you mods could create an official Off-Topic Forum sticky "Trash" thread to which we users would be directed to post attachments of images which we would like to link externally in other threads. That would be, of course, provided we only post images of a reasonable size (say less than 800Wx1200H), and provided we submit links to the posts wherein our internally attached, externally linked pictures reside, subject to the 1-1-1-1 rule?

Yeah, we have a couple of conflicting scripts thumbnailing images in the forum, so images smaller than 400x400 get scaled to 250x250, and external image-links get scaled to something pathetic like 150x150. It's partly the crappy forum software and partly a modification we were testing to prevent large animated gifs from slowing down the forum. It all needs to be sorted out, but you already know what sort of timetable that will happen on.  :-\
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Well, at the very least, I'd like to see the script fixed that borks attachments smaller than 400x400 and prevents them from being made clickable by which they would be opened into our wonderful pop-up image window. It would be a start. :P

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« Last Edit: August 24, 2010, 02:39:07 PM by Q_BE »

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Re: Image Attachment Thread
« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2010, 04:59:47 PM »
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Re: Auto Image Resizing?
« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2010, 05:04:23 PM »
As an aside, do you think you mods could create an official Off-Topic Forum sticky "Trash" thread to which we users would be directed to post attachments of images which we would like to link externally in other threads. That would be, of course, provided we only post images of a reasonable size (say less than 800Wx1200H), and provided we submit links to the posts wherein our internally attached, externally linked pictures reside, subject to the 1-1-1-1 rule?

Done. It's (unimaginatively) titled "Image Attachment Thread". The mods will have to discuss whether the 1-1-1 rule also applies inside that thread. For the time being, assume that it does.

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Re: Auto Image Resizing?
« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2010, 07:33:02 PM »
Done. It's (unimaginatively) titled "Image Attachment Thread". The mods will have to discuss whether the 1-1-1 rule also applies inside that thread. For the time being, assume that it does.

Hmm, that IS an interesting conundrum. It would be difficult to have ONE thread be different. On top of that, it would be even more work for you mods to ascertain that every photo is legitimately part of another thread. I think we may really be making the problem worse than better. I think sticking to 1-1-1-1 inside that particular thread should be the rule because it's just easier that way. For those who may use it, it might only be once a day anyway, so there you go.

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Re: Image Attachment Thread
« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2010, 08:24:53 PM »
Gonzo is in heaven !  ;) ;D

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Re: Auto Image Resizing?
« Reply #24 on: August 25, 2010, 07:18:11 AM »
After thinking about it, I tend to agree that 1-1-1 should apply in both the Image Attachment Thread and the thread where you link to your attached image. The "one exceptional thread" confusion you mention is one reason. Another is that we'd like this "linked image from OTF" method to be something people use only when it's justified (so that it won't undo the loading-speed gains derived from thumbnailing). Limiting users to one of them per day (by asserting 1-1-1 inside the OTF thread) gives everybody the option to use it, but not the option to overuse it.
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Re: Image Attachment Thread
« Reply #25 on: August 25, 2010, 02:38:31 PM »
Great idea Gonzo.  This has been on my mind for a while.

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Re: Auto Image Resizing?
« Reply #26 on: August 25, 2010, 02:39:26 PM »
After thinking about it, I tend to agree that 1-1-1 should apply in both the Image Attachment Thread and the thread where you link to your attached image. The "one exceptional thread" confusion you mention is one reason. Another is that we'd like this "linked image from OTF" method to be something people use only when it's justified (so that it won't undo the loading-speed gains derived from thumbnailing). Limiting users to one of them per day (by asserting 1-1-1 inside the OTF thread) gives everybody the option to use it, but not the option to overuse it.

This is pretty much the same logic I've been using in this situation. The only thing I am a little bummed about is the idea that the picture "to be linked" applies to 1-1-1 in both the thread it's attached (the Image Attachment Thread) and also the thread in which it is subsequently linked full-size (for effect). You're basically getting only 1 image for the price of two.

I was thinking maybe a slight modification in the rules of the game whereby you can post exactly 2 images per 24 hours in the Image Attachment Thread, to make up for that shortfall. If you didn't want to do that, maybe you could exclude the 1-1-1 for images specifically linked from the Image Attachment thread when users additionally provide the appropriate "post link" reference (located in the title of every post) to the picture in the Image Attachment thread. This would function somewhat similarly to what users do in asserting copyright (because they place information about their copyright in the post of the pictures they want omitted from the 1-1-1 rule).

Let me know if either of those two ideas seems feasible to you.

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Re: Image Attachment Thread
« Reply #27 on: August 25, 2010, 02:45:10 PM »
Great idea Gonzo.  This has been on my mind for a while.

It was my idea, actually, but I don't care who gets the credit. This is awesome. 8)

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Re: Image Attachment Thread
« Reply #28 on: August 25, 2010, 02:53:20 PM »


An image posted in this thread counts as your one-post-per-24-hours in this thread AND in the thread where you post the image-link to it.

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counts as your one-post-per-24-hours in this thread AND in the thread where you post the image-link to it.

That seems kind of harsh but it is your house not mine.


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Re: Image Attachment Thread
« Reply #29 on: August 25, 2010, 02:55:32 PM »
counts as your one-post-per-24-hours in this thread AND in the thread where you post the image-link to it.

That seems kind of harsh but it is your house not mine.

I'm still discussing options with Gonzo in the "Auto Image-Resizing" thread. Stay tuned.

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