[Palomine]

But the winter of 2012/2013 was recorded as the most 5th heaviest snowfall on record in North America...

I'll respond to your implication that a recent heavy snowfall disproves climate change by quoting my own response to a similar suggestion in another OTF thread:

LOL!

Ah, the sterling influence of Faux Nooz continues to be felt far and wide, even years after the fictionalized drivel from Roger Ailes' paid propagandists has been objectively and repeatedly disproved. "Global warming" doesn't mean that it gets hotter every place on the planet every year... how many times does someone have to explain that?! Though the average global temperature has been steadily increasing over time (and there's no meaningful percentage of scientists who disagree with that fact, nor with the conclusion that it's due at least in part to human actions) climate change and natural variations are such that some places will get hotter and some colder, some wetter and some drier... and yes, extreme weather events are more common.

I love it whenever Sean Hannity or another Fauxy nincompoop relates a story about how cold it is someplace (i.e.: like your aunt)... since I can't bring myself to believe that he actually doesn't understand the difference between statistically valid and anecdotal evidence, I can only surmise that he knows what he's saying is utter bull$hit, but he's happy to lie to the public over and over again, simply for his own financial gain (his paycheck, earned furthering the political agenda put forth by his boss Roger).

There are plenty of things that can be disagreed upon by sincere, learned people on both sides of an issue... I'm sorry to tell you that the existence and cause of climate change isn't one of them.

Not to offend, but the idea that because it was cold/snowy in some specific area during some specific recent time period somehow puts the kabosh on climate change is just beyond silly... it demonstrates the worst kind of myopia/misinformation. You might as well declare that access to affordable health care is a non-existent problem just because you happen to have insurance from work, or that terrorism/hunger/discrimination/illiteracy/whatever is a non-issue just because you don't happen to have suffered from any of those things yourself. I mean, by that reasoning, the earth is still flat for crissakes!

The world is bigger than the radius any of us travel to/from work, and statistically proven global trends aren't disproved by how much any particular fella had to shovel his sidewalk last winter.    

[Palomine]

Stop **94** the Kool-aid.

icecap.us

Tugboat"Real science, not the fake science the UN and other folks are making millions off of decrying Global Warming"Cap!

Again no offense intended Tug, but you're just embarrassing yourself.

Your source: icecap.us is a propaganda instrument almost entirely devoid of actual facts. It appears to be funded almost exclusively by the fossil fuel industry.

If a person can't bothered to spend 30 seconds checking the provenance of their 'sources' then they deserve to be led around by a ring in their nose. With such a complete lack of common sense and an unwillingness to expend even the tiniest effort to think for oneself being so popular, it is any wonder that Faux Nooz is as successful as it is?!

Whois on the domain: http://www.whois.net/whois/icecap.us The contact person in the domain registry is Joe D'Aleo, who is one of that 1% of fringe scientists who purport to disbelieve any man-made role in climate change. The fact that he and icecap.us get their funding from big oil companies/cartels is surely just a matter of coincidence!

Funding sources for icecap.us, which apparently include ExxonMobil, the British Coal Corporation, Cyprus Minerals and OPEC: http://www.toxicworldbook.com/?p=110 Their funding sources are a matter of public record, you can use another source to verify them if you prefer.

BTW, I love your accusation about how the "UN and other folks are making millions" in the promotion of 'fictional' global warming... I can just picture your outstretched finger pointing horrifically, like Donald Sutherland at the end of Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Are you serious? Do you really believe that? Which is more likely: climate change is a scam for the "UN and other folks" to make your theoretical "millions" (how exactly, t-shirt sales? ) OR what 99% of scientists agree is happening is true: that climate change exists and that the industrial revolution and transfer of carbon from the ground to the atmosphere in the years that followed is a contributory factor and that oil companies (who actually DO make billions of dollars every single year) are more than happy/willing to spend a tiny fraction of their profits attempting to disprove the irrefutable facts of the matter?

Think for yourself for a change... who knows, you might actually enjoy it!

[Palomine]

You're right.  I'm wrong.  Never mind the TRUE science and facts to the contrary.  I know, I'm wrong no matter what and you're always right.  You would NEVER be wrong, you're opinion is always the right one, anyone else on this board says something contrary to what your beliefs are they are always WRONG!

It's nice to know you are the know-all go-to expert on every subject...

Tugboat"Typical Liberal Know-it-all"Cap!


Oh, and I guess the HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS of dollars in potential Carbon Trading proposed by the UN to redistribute wealth isn't a valid reason to promote false science...

I know, I'm wrong, you're ALWAYS right.. I'll go be a good little Conservative and bow down to you big bad Condescending Liberal Know-it-all...NOT!

LOL!

I see you've availed yourself of that final refuge: you're essentially closing your eyes, sticking your fingers in your ears and crying aloud 'Laa-laa-laa-laa-laa" so as to ignore anything that doesn't already align with your chosen worldview, the FACTS be damned! It was silly of me I suppose to expect anything else, considering your extremely selective and personally-tailored use of the words 'science' and 'facts.' According to you, I'm a big bad liberal and you're a poor little persecuted conservative... therefore, you're obviously the wronged party and I'm an ogre. LOL!

In the real world disagreements are won or lost on the basis of provable facts, and the politics of the participants involved has no bearing whatsoever. But of course, that entire concept is anathema to Faux Noozies... they're too busy suckling on Rupert Murdoch's saggy, hairy geriatric teat to actually stop and think for themselves.

You parrot a foolish and easily disproved assertion and with less than a minute of effort I thoroughly refute it and provide specific citations, both of which can be confirmed from other sources. I don't get or deserve any credit whatsoever for that, since your claim (and its corporate propagandist source) is equivalent to insisting that the earth is flat or the moon made of cheese... anyone could have shot your point down without breaking a sweat, including any intellectually honest conservative.

But you go right ahead and keep swearing that climate change is a UN conspiracy scheme... but be sure to remember that you're aiding OPEC & Co. every time you do... and that's fine of course since OPEC's gotta have your (and America's) best interests at heart, right?

You're as welcome as anyone else to spout outlandish and unsubstantiatable theories, but you ought (have) to expect people to disagree with you, regardless of the venue or their personal/political/religious affiliations.

Take it easy 'cap!

[salem]

*Why are white people never considered terrorists?*

Obviously you have never watched a Die Hard movie!

[Palomine]

*Why are white people never considered terrorists?*

Obviously you have never watched a Die Hard movie!

Which reminds me: I disagree with the original premise of this thread. Terrorism is defined by the act and intention, not by the color of the perpetrator(s) skin. We grow some of our very own mightee fine ter'rists right here in 'merica sho 'nuff!

[salem]

Which reminds me: I disagree with the original premise of this thread. Terrorism is defined by the act and intention, not by the color of the perpetrator(s) skin. We grow some of our very own mightee fine ter'rists right here in 'merica sho 'nuff!

I have to agree. As a citizen of the United Kingdom we had to put up with terrorist acts perpetrated by the IRA for years.

[Palomine]

I have to agree. As a citizen of the United Kingdom we had to put up with terrorist acts perpetrated by the IRA for years.

I was living in the UK during the 90s and more than once I was pulled aside for extra questioning/searching while at Heathrow or Gatwick, presumably because I looked suspicious to airport security. In their defence (see how I spelled that? ) this was around the time that the IRA was busy lobbing mortars at the runways.

[gOOber]

^

You were detained for looking Irish?

[pedonbio]

I was living in the UK during the 90s and more than once I was pulled aside for extra questioning/searching while at Heathrow or Gatwick, presumably because I looked suspicious to airport security. In their defence (see how I spelled that? ) this was around the time that the IRA was busy lobbing mortars at the runways.

I have been intrigued by things like this. Ages ago I worked in an office in a large mall. One day as I was walking toward the office a middle-aged woman stopped and addressed me in German, asking where the nearest restroom was. I told her, and asked how she knew I spoke German. She said that I looked German.

[luvdemwhoppers]

they're to bizzy fukin white women. hello?

[pedonbio]

I remain intrigued by the original question as it has been rephrased by the various posters in this thread.

We are now faced with Frazier Glenn Cross, a longterm member of perhaps the oldest terrorist organization still active, a grand old 'Murrikan institution, and he is charged with three murders, aggravated as a "hate crime".

One cannot miss the irony that a man who boiled with antisemitism finally expressed it by killing two Methodists and a Catholic.

[Zorro]

Senator Harry Reid recently proclaimed that the supporters of the Nevada rancher were "domestic terrorists."

"Yippie-Ki-Yay Motherfucker!" - Bruce Willis in Die Hard.

[3deroticer]

white terrorist?

[TheZookie007]

Check your newsfeed. See how much of it is filled with news from Paris, and how much of it is filled with news from Colorado Springs.

World.Mic: "One Tweet Perfectly Sums Up the Big Problem With How We Talk About Terrorism"

[Palomine]

Check your newsfeed. See how much of it is filled with news from Paris, and how much of it is filled with news from Colorado Springs.

World.Mic: "One Tweet Perfectly Sums Up the Big Problem With How We Talk About Terrorism"

The difference in the scale/outcome of the events is likely responsible for the difference in media coverage between them, not some conspiratorial double standard about what's called "terrorism" being based on the skin tone of the perpetrators.

A white guy who leaves a bomb outside of an NAACP office is a terrorist if the NAACP was his intended target.

"Brown" guys (to quote the tweet you linked to) who murder cops and unarmed civilians in the name of jIhad are also terrorists.

The fact that the Paris incident(s) are still in-play, with not one but two separate hostage stand-offs still unresolved even as I type this, likely accounts for the much greater media coverage being paid to the terrorist incident in France today, compared to the one in the U.S. (along with the differences in scale/cost in human lives mentioned earlier of course).

For anyone to try to assert that the difference in coverage is due to an unwillingless in the media to call white perpetrators of terrorism "terrorists" is, in my opinion, both myopic and foolish, and if done with an intent to equate the events in France and Colorado, it's disingenuous as well. If such comments are made by someone employed in commercial journalism, they would seem to lack the good judgement and common sense that God gave chickens and are thus grossly under-qualified to work in news media.

If Jami1ah Lem1eux, the senior digital editor of Ebony responsible for those tweets had an ounce of self-respect or journalistic integrity, she would publicly apologize and then immediately resign for her exploitative and profoundly stupid comments. She can then continue to demonstrate her willingness to exploit human tragedy for her own political ends as a private citizen.