[Bombayduk]

Clearly, you are mistaken what a internal bra actually is; think along the lines of a shelf, like a sling or hammock, fastened on either side, medial and lateral.  It is not bra shaped; there are no cups.  It hold the base of the implant in place to avoid the gradual, and inevitable, effects of gravity.  It is constructed from pigskin, which grows into the under-breast skin, adding extreme strength.  It was taken from the strategy used in difficult abdominal hernia repairs.  The internal bra allows for continued implant expansion because it is not attached to the implant nor does it in any way constrain the implant; it only creates a set height for the inferior aspect of the implant.

Today, a slightly older picture.

[phonehome1]

Clearly, you are mistaken what a internal bra actually is; think along the lines of a shelf, like a sling or hammock, fastened on either side, medial and lateral.  It is not bra shaped; there are no cups.  It hold the base of the implant in place to avoid the gradual, and inevitable, effects of gravity.  It is constructed from pigskin, which grows into the under-breast skin, adding extreme strength.  It was taken from the strategy used in difficult abdominal hernia repairs.  The internal bra allows for continued implant expansion because it is not attached to the implant nor does it in any way constrain the implant; it only creates a set height for the inferior aspect of the implant.

Today, a slightly older picture.

OK so it is a "shelf"

To put a visual on it we will say there is a shelf made from a 4 inch bord, it will easily hold a tennis ball and even a soft ball  and a nerf ball the size of large grape fruit or cantaloupe but a volley ball or soccer ball either barely does not fall off or is just slightly too big but a basket ball  it is not even close

So now change to a water balloon which is basically what an expander implant is   You start out the water balloon sits on the shelf just fine  and you keep filling it and sooner or later it gets so big that is pushes itself off the shelf

Now if you are telling me that the 4 inch board can magically "grow" all by itself into a 6 inch board to hold the soccer ball , a 8 inch board to hold the basketball and a 12 inch board for a beach ball

Like I said, if we were in the later 90's with large fixed sized implants like Kayla Kleevage or Casey James , just to name a few examples had,   that were put in with old fashioned surgery then yes it would be a good idea but for the expander girl starting out at 2000 CC who wants to go to 6000 or beyond sooner or later that shelf is not big enough anymore  and the water balloon falls to the floor and goes splat

[Bombayduk]

Clearly, you are mistaken what a internal bra actually is; think along the lines of a shelf, like a sling or hammock, fastened on either side, medial and lateral.  It is not bra shaped; there are no cups.  It hold the base of the implant in place to avoid the gradual, and inevitable, effects of gravity.  It is constructed from pigskin, which grows into the under-breast skin, adding extreme strength.  It was taken from the strategy used in difficult abdominal hernia repairs.  The internal bra allows for continued implant expansion because it is not attached to the implant nor does it in any way constrain the implant; it only creates a set height for the inferior aspect of the implant.

Today, a slightly older picture.

OK so it is a "shelf"

To put a visual on it we will say there is a shelf made from a 4 inch bord, it will easily hold a tennis ball and even a soft ball  and a nerf ball the size of large grape fruit or cantaloupe but a volley ball or soccer ball either barely does not fall off or is just slightly too big but a basket ball  it is not even close

So now change to a water balloon which is basically what an expander implant is   You start out the water balloon sits on the shelf just fine  and you keep filling it and sooner or later it gets so big that is pushes itself off the shelf

Now if you are telling me that the 4 inch board can magically "grow" all by itself into a 6 inch board to hold the soccer ball , a 8 inch board to hold the basketball and a 12 inch board for a beach ball

Like I said, if we were in the later 90's with large fixed sized implants like Kayla Kleevage or Casey James , just to name a few examples had,   that were put in with old fashioned surgery then yes it would be a good idea but for the expander girl starting out at 2000 CC who wants to go to 6000 or beyond sooner or later that shelf is not big enough anymore  and the water balloon falls to the floor and goes splat

I'm getting the idea that you are being intentionally naive or just argumentative; internal bras have been around for 25 years and their construction is not a secret.  If you really wanted to understand how they work, you could simply research them on the internet.  There is no magic, they don't grow in size, they have one specific purpose, to hold the base of the implant in place, to prevent it from dropping downward.  The only conceivable way the lattice moves once it has grown into the skin is if the skin adjacent to where it is attached is stretched, which could certainly be in the case as huge expanders; I can see the tissue with the lattice being gradually being pulled away from the ribs slightly, to more or less cradle the implant.  This would be the same as what would be expected if after getting a abdominal hernia repair, the patient gained weight.

In Europe, they have a polyurethane internal bra for natural breasts that functions similarly, cradling and lifting the breast to give it a shape more attuned to actually being lifted and suported in a bra.

[osker]

BTW, I think this was before the internal bra and adding another 500cc.

Well I will wait and see a pic of her with her boobs looking on the same level like they way they were before the right boob droop botching set in

So far I have not seen that , every pic I have seen the right boob is still riding lower than the left one , not as bad as it was but you can still see it and there is no way to say it is truly totally "fixed"

So many older pics where the implant had slid out of the pocket, but this I believe is a newer one; Allegra after taking a mud bath.  It is too bad that the internal bra was not offered in the 80s & early 90s; so many contracture cases could have been avoided.

This photo.... And pretty much all of her photos in past year or two are edited or filtered. She definitely filters her face and her body has some big edits done

[phonehome1]

Clearly, you are mistaken what a internal bra actually is; think along the lines of a shelf, like a sling or hammock, fastened on either side, medial and lateral.  It is not bra shaped; there are no cups.  It hold the base of the implant in place to avoid the gradual, and inevitable, effects of gravity.  It is constructed from pigskin, which grows into the under-breast skin, adding extreme strength.  It was taken from the strategy used in difficult abdominal hernia repairs.  The internal bra allows for continued implant expansion because it is not attached to the implant nor does it in any way constrain the implant; it only creates a set height for the inferior aspect of the implant.

Today, a slightly older picture.

OK so it is a "shelf"

To put a visual on it we will say there is a shelf made from a 4 inch bord, it will easily hold a tennis ball and even a soft ball  and a nerf ball the size of large grape fruit or cantaloupe but a volley ball or soccer ball either barely does not fall off or is just slightly too big but a basket ball  it is not even close

So now change to a water balloon which is basically what an expander implant is   You start out the water balloon sits on the shelf just fine  and you keep filling it and sooner or later it gets so big that is pushes itself off the shelf

Now if you are telling me that the 4 inch board can magically "grow" all by itself into a 6 inch board to hold the soccer ball , a 8 inch board to hold the basketball and a 12 inch board for a beach ball

Like I said, if we were in the later 90's with large fixed sized implants like Kayla Kleevage or Casey James , just to name a few examples had,   that were put in with old fashioned surgery then yes it would be a good idea but for the expander girl starting out at 2000 CC who wants to go to 6000 or beyond sooner or later that shelf is not big enough anymore  and the water balloon falls to the floor and goes splat

I'm getting the idea that you are being intentionally naive or just argumentative; internal bras have been around for 25 years and their construction is not a secret.  If you really wanted to understand how they work, you could simply research them on the internet.  There is no magic, they don't grow in size, they have one specific purpose, to hold the base of the implant in place, to prevent it from dropping downward.  The only conceivable way the lattice moves once it has grown into the skin is if the skin adjacent to where it is attached is stretched, which could certainly be in the case as huge expanders; I can see the tissue with the lattice being gradually being pulled away from the ribs slightly, to more or less cradle the implant.  This would be the same as what would be expected if after getting a abdominal hernia repair, the patient gained weight.

In Europe, they have a polyurethane internal bra for natural breasts that functions similarly, cradling and lifting the breast to give it a shape more attuned to actually being lifted and suported in a bra.

Well for the sake of discussion we will say that the above pic is an "after" and she has 6000 CC implants which I think is the last number heard .  I will say that as long as she does not go bigger  which would have been the case with Casey James and others in the later 90's when they got there fixed size 3000 CC implants that she will stay looking like that for years and years maybe the rest of her life just as CJ would still be looking like she looked in the early 00's if she had got one back then

But on the other hand if like Mary Madison she wants to get bigger and by a lot up to that Beshine size you would like them to have or at least try an get because the "shelf" does not grow or to use my analogy keeps being that 4 inch board  that will support a grape fruit sized water balloon and maybe a cantaloupe sized one but grow it to volley ball size or for sure Basketball sized the water balloon as it pushes out from the wall or rib cage in the case of the internal bra it will eventually push itself off that 4 inch board shelf and then it is likely she is right back to where she was needing to get a new bigger internal bra put in or to stay withe shelf analogy, put one with an 8 inch board on the wall that will hold that basketball   

Would you agree with that ??

That is all I am trying to say

That it is not the one time fix panacea you seem to be saying it is

[Bombayduk]

^Ok, your point is well taken regarding falling off the shelf if the expanders got too big, but I'm fairly certain the shelf moves.  As the implant expands, it pulls and stretches the surrounding tissue.  We have very few, essentially Beshine, to guess how much this may take place, but if you look at her incisions, you see that over the past 17 years, they have moved a few inches outward.  At first, it was the lateral aspect, indicative of her sideboobs expanding, but eventually, perhaps 5 years post-surgical, the incisions again looked equal distance from her chest wall, perhaps 1.5" away from the chest wall.  Today, the scars are more in the neighborhood of 3" away from her chest wall, meaning that her boob growth is gradually pulling her surrounding skin. 

Now, the lattice would be sutured over the interior surgical incision and secured to bone using braided suture and titanium screws.  In  the early days, if Beshine bent forward, you could see the braided suture raise the overlying skin.  Today, only the right medial remains evident; it shouldn't, but I would bet some aspect of the bra slipped out of place very early.  Because her implants are so enormous, rather than anchor to a axillary rib, the evidence strongly suggests superior shoulder; the medial to the first rib near the sternum.  These are smart positionings as there is little chance of warping a rib beyond what the weight alone might do.  Though you are not supposed to be able to see the braided suture lines, I have heard a few of our 3000+ girls mention that they can feel them move with their hand when their boobs sway.

So, at least with Beshine because of her enormous expansion, the evidence suggests and it is logical that the lattice is no longer against her chest wall, but probably at least 2-3" away and extending further the normal 4" lattice width, assuming she settled for a single width, which, TBH, I kinda doubt; thinking she went for extra lattice.  I prefer to look at the lattice as essentially a boob hammock, and with Beshine, her hammock today may cradle her underboob from a couple inches from her chest wall, to at least 6" away from her chest wall, probably further.  With so much of the implant supported, it isn't going anywhere

But she is an exception and I sincerely doubt others would experience any real movement beyond an inch, which still yields 5" of support, projectively speaking.  Though I do not know, I suspect Allegra's projection isn't much past 8", which means her bra likely cradles half of that distance.

[Bombayduk]

At some point, you have to decide whether you want your big fake boobs or your face in a selfie, because your arm isn't long enough to capture both.