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Architecture - Old or New
« on: November 13, 2023, 10:20:53 AM »
I came across an IG site that features old pictures of New York City and I thought, why not start a thread in Off Topic about buildings?  New or old… doesn’t matter.
 
Here’s a pic of St Patrick’s cathedral in Manhattan in NYC, which is cool enough in its own right, but what’s so noteworthy of this shot is that it was taken in 1934.  Today, Rockefeller Plaza sits across the street of the church, but here, the lot has just been cleared and construction has yet to begin.
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Re: Architecture- Old or New
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2023, 07:19:55 PM »
As long as we keep it about REAL buildings, and not flood the place with fantasies.

The Chrysler Building is pretty cool.

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« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2023, 05:52:59 AM »
I can forgive anyone who may not yet be educated on Ohio's great buildings - so many built during the Art Deco period of the 30s and standing strong.

The only thing unforgivable would be to forget them after having seen any of them.

THIS is the Cincinnati Union Terminal, built in 1933 in Art Deco glory.
Just over 18,000 sq ft and internally full of art mosaics, there's something else you must know (if you didn't already know it):
DC comic's "Hall of Justice" which was featured on every episode of "Superfriends" was in fact directly inspired by this building.

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Re: Architecture- Old or New
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2023, 06:42:45 AM »
Construction began on September 11, 1941, and ended on January 15, 1943. Colonel Leslie Grove of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers was in charge of construction. He later was put in charge of the Manhattan Project and built the world's first atomic bomb. For many years it was the world's largest office building. On September 11, 2001, Al Qaeda terrorists, an organization led by Osama Bin Laden, crashed American Airlines flight 77 on the western side of the building killing a total of 184 people. First attack on a Federal facility in Washington D.C. since the war of 1812 when the British/Canadians burned the White House and other buildings. This is part of the reconstruction photo. 

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Re: Architecture- Old or New
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2023, 09:54:46 AM »
Construction began on September 11, 1941, and ended on January 15, 1943. Colonel Leslie Grove of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers was in charge of construction. He later was put in charge of the Manhattan Project and built the world's first atomic bomb. For many years it was the world's largest office building. On September 11, 2001, Al Qaeda terrorists, an organization led by Osama Bin Laden, crashed American Airlines flight 77 on the western side of the building killing a total of 184 people. First attack on a Federal facility in Washington D.C. since the war of 1812 when the British/Canadians burned the White House and other buildings. This is part of the reconstruction photo.

We all know what this building is, but I still think it’s pretty funny that you didn’t identify it.
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« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2023, 10:39:08 PM »
Construction began on September 11, 1941, and ended on January 15, 1943. Colonel Leslie Grove of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers was in charge of construction. He later was put in charge of the Manhattan Project and built the world's first atomic bomb. For many years it was the world's largest office building. On September 11, 2001, Al Qaeda terrorists, an organization led by Osama Bin Laden, crashed American Airlines flight 77 on the western side of the building killing a total of 184 people. First attack on a Federal facility in Washington D.C. since the war of 1812 when the British/Canadians burned the White House and other buildings. This is part of the reconstruction photo.

We all know what this building is, but I still think it’s pretty funny that you didn’t identify it.

Well, here is the ID, The Pentagon.  :)

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Re: Architecture- Old or New
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2023, 03:46:51 AM »
Tudor House Southampton UK.

300 years old.
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« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2023, 06:05:20 AM »
You want old? How about the Pyramid in Giza, Egypt, which was built in 2570 BC or close to 4600 years ago and it was the tallest man-made structure for 3800 years.  But amazingly enough, it was not the tallest pyramid ever. The pyramid in Cholula, Mexico, built by the Toltecs near the present city of Puebla, Mexico, was taller but as the Toltecs disappeared, the jungle took over it and when the Spaniards conquered Mexico, they thought it was a hill and built a church on top of it. It wasn't until the 20th century when they finally figured out it was not a hill, but a pyramid.

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« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2023, 06:59:51 AM »
You want old?
Hold my beer!

Archaeologists believe that Stonehenge was constructed in several phases from around 3100 BC to 1600 BC, with the circle of large sarsen stones placed between 2600 BC and 2400 BC
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« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2023, 03:08:11 PM »
Singapore, wow....the progress of modern huge silicone cans runs parallel to the invention of mega-cities... imho...

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Re: Architecture- Old or New
« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2023, 05:07:18 PM »
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Another site cleared (almost) before pending construction.  This last building had been built in 1877 and had been the home of the Estherson’s Family Wine & Liquor Store on 7th Avenue between 31st & 32nd Streets.  Once demolished, it would take an additional 7 years for the site to be excavated and construction to be completed for the future Penn Station to open in 1910.  That incredible structure, partially inspired by the Crystal Palace in London of 1851, was designed by McKim, Mead &  White and was demolished just 53 years later for a glass box office building and what looks like a huge cylindrical air vent that became the home of Madison Square Garden.

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« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2023, 05:38:22 PM »
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Another site cleared (almost) before pending construction.  This last building had been built in 1877 and had been the home of the Estherson’s Family Wine & Liquor Store on 7th Avenue between 31st & 32nd Streets.  Once demolished, it would take an additional 7 years for the site to be excavated and construction to be completed for the future Penn Station to open in 1910.  That incredible structure, partially inspired by the Crystal Palace in London of 1851, was designed by McKim, Mead &  White and was demolished just 53 years later for a glass box office building and what looks like a huge cylindrical air vent that became the home of Madison Square Garden.

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Looks lonely.  It's a pretty nice looking old building too.  Kinda sad that two generations of great looking old architecture got wiped out for office buildings and MSG.

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Re: Architecture- Old or New
« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2023, 06:32:18 PM »
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Another site cleared (almost) before pending construction.  This last building had been built in 1877 and had been the home of the Estherson’s Family Wine & Liquor Store on 7th Avenue between 31st & 32nd Streets.  Once demolished, it would take an additional 7 years for the site to be excavated and construction to be completed for the future Penn Station to open in 1910.  That incredible structure, partially inspired by the Crystal Palace in London of 1851, was designed by McKim, Mead &  White and was demolished just 53 years later for a glass box office building and what looks like a huge cylindrical air vent that became the home of Madison Square Garden.

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Looks lonely.  It's a pretty nice looking old building too.  Kinda sad that two generations of great looking old architecture got wiped out for office buildings and MSG.

It’s crazy the number of buildings with great historic worth that were mowed down in the 60s for glass boxes in NYC.  I’m guessing it was true in other cities, too.  The destruction of Penn station sparked the creation of Historic Landmark laws in New York State.
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« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2023, 06:00:30 AM »
To me, the skyscraper that remains the most significant in world history is the Empire State Building. Last time I was at it was in 1976 when I was stationed in the submarine school in New London, Connecticut and I along with other of my shipmates went to New York City and we did the tourist thing and visited the building. Built in 1931, it remained the tallest man-made building in the world until it was surpassed by the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center and the Sears tower in Chicago in the 1970's. It was built in only 13 months.  :o Along with the Statue of Liberty, it remains a symbol of New York city. Anyways, it is an Art Deco architectural masterpiece.  :)

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« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2023, 08:01:59 PM »
There was a neat thing in the extras for Peter Jackson's "King Kong", where they showed the CG team creating the digital model of the Empire State Building for the movie.  It actually took them longer to create it than it took to create the real building!   :o

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