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Re: Melonie Charms MERGED
« Reply #105 on: December 13, 2003, 08:38:15 PM »
Sorry, guess I'm being the naive Swede again...  

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Re: Melonie Charms MERGED
« Reply #106 on: December 13, 2003, 08:45:56 PM »
 
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#4 - In regard to retirement plans, the thought occasionally crosses my mind. These occasions often co-incide with incidents where my hard work as a big bust model results in enduring insults and/or financial loss. As a matter of fact, it just so happens that the $750 annual renewal fee for my website's ability to process MasterCard and Visa charges in 2004 is about to rear its ugly head. Given the actual profit margin of my website after hosting fees and bandwidth charges, plus this $750 fee coming due in the very near future, plus the time demands placed upon me by my mother's condition, the thought has briefly crossed my mind to shut down my website, save the $750 fee, and concentrate my efforts on my IFriends WebCam site and modeling for large multi-girl big boob websites in exchange for a fixed modeling fee. Of course if I were to do this, it would be extremely bad for the profitability of eastern european pirate sites such as the one Shadow patronizes (or maybe not, they'd just pirate the images from the multi-girl big boob websites, but at least it would then be their financial loss and not mine) !

.... and guys actually wonder why there are so few new big bust models entering the business !!!!!  


 

This is why I felt the urge to chastise Shadowcom for wondering where your new pix were, even though he hasn't paid you one thin dime. But if your okay with him doing it, than I guess I have no place to blame him.

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Re: Melonie Charms MERGED
« Reply #107 on: December 13, 2003, 08:49:13 PM »
It's not that - you grew up in an environment of capitalism i.e. people working hard and being paid for their efforts accordingly. You also grew up in an environment of justice, where people who took unfair advantage were held accountable for their actions, despite the fact that they might have been powerful or politically well connected or very rich. We both tend to take these concepts as a given , but they are actually very foreign and recent concepts in many parts of the world.

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Re: Melonie Charms MERGED
« Reply #108 on: December 13, 2003, 08:52:48 PM »
Perhaps, but he knows he is stealing from you. He just doesn't seem to care. In fact he thought you would be ecstatic!

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Re: Melonie Charms MERGED
« Reply #109 on: December 13, 2003, 08:56:33 PM »
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This is why I felt the urge to chastise Shadowcom for wondering where your new pix were, even though he hasn't paid you one thin dime. But if your okay with him doing it, than I guess I have no place to blame him.  




Well, I'm obviously not OK with the fact that Shadow and many many others are able to do this due to the continued existance of such foreign websites which regularly "rebroadcast" copyrighted content.  But I can't specifically fault Shadow personally for taking advantage of something that in his country is considered a 'legal' arrangement. I obviously feel that I am being "ripped off" by such websites, but unfortunately in the "real world" I am powerless to do anything about it.  I might hope that Shadow and others who subscribe to these foreign pirate websites might have some moral reservations about the consequences of what they are doing, but ...

Actually, my biggest concern is that the existance of such websites serves as yet one more reason for potential future big bust models not to bother making the investment in huge implants, since these pirate websites will profit from her investment and hard work while her own website suffers from the competition (which would clearly be considered illegal if the pirate website was based in North America or Western Europe).  

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Re: Melonie Charms MERGED
« Reply #110 on: December 13, 2003, 09:01:20 PM »
My thoughts exactly.  But, if we just accept the behavior (stealing) as the norm and say we can't place blame, it will only mean the demise of the big bust models.  Who here wants that?

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Re: Melonie Charms MERGED
« Reply #111 on: December 13, 2003, 09:07:16 PM »
And that's what it all boils down to - in the end, it's the fans that have to pay for the implants somehow.    I can think of a few model sites I would join if the models in question would have a personal site where I knew they would recieve the majority of the earnings.  

Make a chest bigger - join a big bust model site today!

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Re: Melonie Charms MERGED
« Reply #112 on: December 13, 2003, 09:07:39 PM »
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My thoughts exactly.  But, if we just accept the behavior (stealing) as the norm and say we can't place blame, it will only mean the demise of the big bust models.  Who here wants that?  




Well, this is the classic argument isn't it !  Short term personal gain versus long term investment for the good of all concerned.  I guess that this is one lesson from the darker side of capitalism which Shadow and other subscribers to foreign pirate websites HAVE learned !

Unfortunately, it's as unfair to blame Shadow and other foreign pirate website subscribers personally any more than it's unfair to blame WalMart customers in the USA.  They all are taking advantage of a personal bargain, with no apparent thought as to the future consequences.  Unfortunately, I doubt that they'll actually make the proper cause and effect association when the day arrives that the WalMart customers are layed off from their US manufacturing jobs which have been exported to China to manufacture cheap products for WalMart they have been getting a bargain price on.  The same thing will probably happen to new North American or Western European big bust models, however I doubt that there will be any Chinese girls willing (or qualified) to take their place.

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Re: Melonie Charms MERGED
« Reply #113 on: December 13, 2003, 09:10:59 PM »
 
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  I would join if the models in question would have a personal site where I knew they would recieve the majority of the earnings.  


 

I am not sure it matters. It seems that Melonie has a personal site, but it sounds like the majority of the money goes to running the sight, visa payment, etc.

Buying a Score magazine helps the big boob world too.  Didn't Vixen just get a gig at the AVN show working for Score?  ( A gig I doubt she would get if she didn't go big )

Cameron Diaz doesn't get the majority of the money from the Charlies Angels movies either, but it sure helps her get paid when we all buy tickets. It's a different scale of course, but the principle is the same.

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Re: Melonie Charms MERGED
« Reply #114 on: December 13, 2003, 09:15:55 PM »
Of course buying a multi-model mag helps the big boob world in general, but from a very selfish BE-oriented point of view the thought of my money making my favorite model  go bigger is a lot more appealing to the mind.  

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Re: Melonie Charms MERGED
« Reply #115 on: December 13, 2003, 09:18:07 PM »
 
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They all are taking advantage of a personal bargain  




I have no problem with the person with the best deal getting the business (walmart). But, if they are stealing the property and giving it away, that is not exactly capitalism in action.  

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Re: Melonie Charms MERGED
« Reply #116 on: December 13, 2003, 09:20:25 PM »
 
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 Of course buying a multi-model mag helps the big boob world in general, but from a very selfish BE-oriented point of view the thought of my money making my favorite model go bigger is a lot more appealing to the mind.




Well you should have no problem. I don't know of a big boob model that wants to go bigger that doesn't have a personal site.  I would be anxious to know of one, as I think your goal of helping them get there is admirable.

 

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Re: Melonie Charms MERGED
« Reply #117 on: December 13, 2003, 09:23:05 PM »
Melonie, I hope that you and your mother get through this difficult time quickly without any further hardship.

Today is my mom's birthday (she's 73 - we went to see  The Christmas Revels in NYC - I know people involved in the production). Fortunately, she is in good health. I don't know what I'd do if she ever got seriously ill, because of my two sisters and I, there's none of us who can take care of her.

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Re: Melonie Charms MERGED
« Reply #118 on: December 13, 2003, 09:23:23 PM »
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And that's what it all boils down to - in the end, it's the fans that have to pay for the implants somehow.    I can think of a few model sites I would join if the models in question would have a personal site where I knew they would recieve the majority of the earnings.  

Make a chest bigger - join a big bust model site today!  




Actually, the BEST way to make certain that the models personally benefit the most from money spent by fans is in the purchase of videos (and in particular custom made videos).  Even if a big bust model has a terrific web host (as I do), it's just the reality of business that bandwidth and hosting costs (and I'm not talking about web host profits but actual costs) eat up an easy 1/3 to 1/2 of all website membership receipts.  The credit card processing annual fee and processing fee percentage collected from every membership transaction are on top of the bandwidth and hosting costs.  Throw in a couple of piracy incidents where freeloaders swoop in with a pirated password and rack up bandwidth costs which are 10 or 100 times normal without generating any revenue to cover these costs, and you begin to get the picture that these days operating a pay website is little more than a service which big bust models provide for the benefit of their fans.  As Keisha and Vixen and I have been telling you all along, personal website income is NOT sufficient to cover the cost of new bigger implants.  However, if 100 fans were to order a custom video ...

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Re: Melonie Charms MERGED
« Reply #119 on: December 13, 2003, 09:23:31 PM »
Right. What does what I said have to do with Melonie and the filching of her stuff?

Works a bit like this. To learn about something you need to first know of its existance. So if a system exists that does not give people the chance to see something those people cannot learn about it and therefore cannot then do the right thing.


So. For example lets say you lived somewhere that did not understand about causality you would not be able to understand the linkages between things that seem far removed from each other.


Like for example a system that suddenly had all the constraints taken off it and provided the opportunity to do as you wanted and therefore the crime rate went up. This would then teach people that crime, such as stealing, was not really all that bad. Which is why it happens over there so often.